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Bro, I can smell your tall-poppy syndrome from my tablet. Your math and even your rationale, none of them hold any water. Even if the lady goes astray as you clearly wish and blows all her cash, she would've lived a life far more enriched than the average worker that you somehow managed to compare her to. Where did that part of the rationale go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
I’m currently watching one who has failed on properties and now has a business venture. I already know how that’s going to pan out but she’s done it for a particular reason as she has a kind heart but “other people” need to support themselves. How long she endures before she shuts it down depends on her finances but she’s always slow on pulling the trigger. Given the fact I’ve made decisions for her previously I know how she operates so this time it’ll be her own choosing.
They need to individually market themselves online and not wait for customers to walk in.Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
i spoke to a few of them at ginza, in between shots usually i like to cuddle and ask them what their plans are etc.
stuff i hear from there is not the stuff of "im rich!"
look im not harbouring any ill will, i hope they succeed, i truely do and im sure some of the private ones thatve found a niche do make absolute bonkers bank. But the standard WL working at a brothel isnt living some lavish life.
is she doing better than the construction wworkers that visit her? possibly.
but it isn't 200k merc tier its just comfortable living level... and thats putting aside havin to suck 6 different raw dicks a day
Sendmetheacti is right. It’s not that much compared to us. Just because they don’t pay tax, and they’ll convert the dollars into whatever shit currency they have back home. So yes, it’s a ton for them, not for us though.
I know a massage girl who is early 40s, you guys think she is late 20s/early 30s in her reviews. How you guys can't tell by her face is beyond me, but she has a decent body. This girl has an old boyfriend giving her $3k a week for the last 10 years! He doesn't know she does this work, although they met in the shops he thinks she now is working a normal job. She is popular so she is probably making more doing massage than her allowance.
She got caught cheating on her bf once and he took her back, simp probably apologised to her for catching her lol. She is now also looking for 1 more Sugar daddy!
Bro, for one thing, this thread is titled “how rich CAN a WL be?”. It’s clearly about maxxing. Yet you want to focus on an average WL doing average hours. That’s like asking “how rich can an entrepreneur be?” and choosing not to talk about Elon Musk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
Now let’s talk about your numbers. Shop fee is not 50%, I’ve got no idea where you got that number from. It’s closer to $100 for the hour and it’s a flat fee. Next, the rent. These girls live in shared accommodation almost exclusively. I’ve certainly not met any that rented their own apartment alone.
Clothes? The only branded clothes they wear would’ve been bought for them by simping wannabe BFs. Other times, they buy it from drop shippers cheaper than we know how to get them because they come from those countries that supply the cheap clothes.
I reckon most of them do not pay tax but I’ll leave it at this. I’m surprised you actually expect them to do it, like it’s a normal thing lolll
Even if we go by what you said and she ends up saving “only” 30-40k. Bruh… do you really think most Aussie workers save that much in a year?
Not sure where you are getting these numbers from. The Japanese girls I had working at Pitt Street were getting paid $1800-$2200 a day so surely Ginza girls are doing better than that. Plus with any extras they charge in the room is more money. Rent should be Zero dollars if they stay in shop otherwise dorm stay usually $150/$200 a week. Bubble tea usually paid for by customer or shop and for food these girls only really eat one meal a day. Clothes are from Shein and the designer stuff is usually just a couple peices the rest is clones or paid for by the rich client as gifts. If they go on holidays some of them still work, sometimes the trip is paid for by the rich client as a gift. The only real time they have off that are major expenses is for cosmetic surgery but even then thats cheap in korea. Some girls are very smart and well set up for the future the other half maybe not so much, all this time and effort just to pass everything you earned to your fake host bf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sendmetheacti
From the bushes?Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
If an ml/wl is making on average 200k aud undeclared yearly,
that is the equivalent of earning approx 350k a year tax medicare and super included
That puts her in the top 2% of income earners
Then factor gifts, sponsorship, tips, some regularly get - my EXAMPLE of the Viet ML one year alone was given a minimum of 80k by 3 special friends and a car at 50% its actual value
This ML is clearing more than 300k ( not including gifts) yearly . With 120k declared income - about to buy second property, 1st property almost paid off . Owns /bought property for family in Vn and currently funding total rebuild of family home
So unless they have serious addictions/issues , they are doing very well
Agree with this. The ones I talked to were making around 40k per month in Ginza (after com) and nothing was declared. They wouldn't come all the way to Australia unless the pay was very interesting. Even so Japan salaries are low, you can still get good money when you work in the sex industry locally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abs90
Massage ladies who are popular and working in a busy shop can certainly earn this. I know who your example is and she is a workaholic. I’m not sure many people could work as hard as she does.Quote:
Originally Posted by massageangel
Other girls who are in quieter shops would be happy with 3 or 4 customers a day and certainly wouldn’t be as well off as your example.
The potential is definitely there to earn a fortune for the right lady in the right place.
Yes salaries in Japan are hideously low. Incredible considering how developed they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rrayjin
Those numbers you mentioned are inline with the employment page on the GC website.
Was asked some years ago by a WL to join the industry as I'd definitely have some business but the thought of doing some women I've seen in supermarkets and shops would put me right off let alone DATY .Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy13
High libido as I have , I can only perform with someone who has high hygiene at least and I'm my opinion reasonable looks though bodies have varied from thin , short to carrying a small spare
You are right. While I can find something beautiful in most women, a customer with poor hygiene would absolutely be abproblem for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hedonisticfun
Plus they gamble alot. Also remember alot of financial services discriminate against those in the sex industry. The smart ones haves sex industry friendly accountants and invest their money in property.Quote:
Originally Posted by keebab
If they manage to save and invest then good on them. I understand the curiosity but they are making good money in return of something which is way more precious and that is their well-being and mental health. I am not suggesting that all would experience uncomfortable episodes in their lives but I think this profession is quite taxing on them. Tbh, I don't care about their bank accounts ( and some may say then why post this, a fair argument!) but each to their own. It is not an easy job.
I know a recently retired ML made do with about half a mil in the bank (could be more in stocks) after less than 3 years in the game. She’s still very young so has set herself up very nicely
The very established tech stocks may pay dividends but the vast majority do not.Quote:
Originally Posted by maguro
My reglar thai milf fuck bin horin 4 twenty years n now chargws 150 the half, 250 the hour. Busy week she tole me c⁶an bangen 40 guys. In tge past 10 years ago she was doinf sex paeties n gangbanging sessions for 400$ an hour.
My guess is she doing furr
Nah, the tech stocks, for the most part are a gamble, you put your money in on the hope that they go up. If they start going up, they need more cash, so they raise more money, dilute your EPS, and put the money into more future development so you are never going to get a dividend, and the money is only on the capital gains. God knows how that will go after 30JUN 2027 as Albo and Jim will be taking a far greater share of what you get. If you want dividends than banks, miners, telstra etc are a far better bet. In fact, the dividend pay outs are going up to attract capital as if they are only paying 5% you can get that by putting funds into a bank (let's leave the franking part out of the case for a bit)Quote:
Originally Posted by priapus1966
I have about $900K in shares at the moment and I get paid about $55k so that is like about a 6% return, but then as that is legit money, you need to pay tax on that (I am ignoring franking credits). Who's comfortable enough to work only 2 days a week with $55k a year less tax? I mean half of that would be gone on rent and living costs alone.
Either way, my question on her having $500k in shares is I find it hard to believe that as most girls are working in shops, that they are declaring more than the hourly rates that they are being paid by the shop as legit income on their tax return. Meaning all the money she is paid for as "extras" is cash.
If she buys a car in cash from a dealer they need to report all cash transactions of $9,999 to AUSTRAC
If she puts more than $9,999 into her bank account at once, they too report her to AUSTRAC
If she puts funds regularly into her account, the bank may report her to AUSTRAC
How does she then get $500k into her account, transferred to her chosen platform and purchased. I mean I have a large portfolio and that has taken me years to build up so I would assume it would have taken her a few years to get that all set up as it is not like you can purchase the stocks all at the same time, dollar cost averaging etc.
My point is that to avoid suspicion cash needs to be moved slowly and regularly and takes a lot of thought. She is probably in the position where she has more cash coming in than she has the capacity to move into bank accounts.
Now on an the Japanese working ladies, I talk to the ones I see and they all tend to save their cash as they are working so much, and they are coming here to work so no play time, and they don't spend. They save their money as cash, and some put it into their Australian bank accounts in small amounts $800 or so at a time, and then transfer to wise where they transfer to JPY and bank to their own JPY account in Japan. The rest, they save and put in their suitcase and take back as undeclared cash to japan in their check in luggage.
Most of the time, they are staying at dormitories with other girls so they share rooms and look out for each other. I talk to one girl (ML) and in the 6 months I have known here she has been to Bali once, Japan 3 times and she takes back $20K a time and wants to open her own waxing salon in Saitama Japan once she finishes.
I have talked to another one about business and for a 27 year old she sure knows a lot of stuff and could easily hold her own in a conversation with me.
Sure, there are others, who probably spend it as soon as they get back, but for some, it can really set them up for life.
You mean their carry-on luggage right? Who in their right mind would put cash, especially lots of it, in check-in luggage? That's like the worst thing anyone can do.
Who in their right mind would carry $20k in their carry-on? Yes, doable and feasible, but increasingly risky. Wearing jewellery is a bit different and generally easier to explain.
There are still plenty of informal cash transfer networks between Australia and destination countries, and they work both ways.
An individual can carry any amount of cash into Japan, but if it is more than USD 6,700, about 10,000 AUD, it has to be declared to customs/Tax authorities. There are alternative legitimate methods of transferring cash, either directly or through a third partyQuote:
Originally Posted by cumquat
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Ada who formerly was a ML is just about to open her fourth massage shop next week.