But you still fucked it anyway? Are you sure you didn't think that for longer than a second?Quote:
Originally Posted by noubroz
Have you ever seen Miss Saigon?Quote:
Originally Posted by numberonebigsize
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But you still fucked it anyway? Are you sure you didn't think that for longer than a second?Quote:
Originally Posted by noubroz
Have you ever seen Miss Saigon?Quote:
Originally Posted by numberonebigsize
That last question has already been answered numerous times .... for the last time, as I understand you are paying for a genuinely young, attractive mixed blood girl. Any assumption that you're getting a better level of service is just that, an assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gronki
Agree, as you said, looks are subjective. But getting back to your first question, imo she's one of the three hottest girls I've booked at Ginza. The other two are GCP, but slightly older.
Only disagree with you on the CIM/COF part, they are clear extras and the shops policy and price guidance on them is well known. Imo it is not reasonable to expect they're included at any level .... other agencies that do guarantee it above the girls discretion also have a higher price range (~$350) so it's obviously been built in.Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
Punter Poontang
So the highest class girls are "genuinely young, attractive mixed blood girl"
Can you explain this "mixed blood girl" to the newcomers
Having enjoyed "pure C-girl", "pure J-girl", "pure K-girl" and "pure Thai-girl", Im all ears
Whats the advantage of the mixed blooded lady, and provide examples of your preferences ;)
You can get CIM / COF for less in fact you can get it for $150 not all girls offer it so you need to check who does it if that's what you want just go to 533 Willoughby road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punter Poontang
I am sure you can get it at other shops for a similar price.
If you pay over $ 200 for these services then that's up to you but for me its not value for money. YOMV
Girls faces usually look really good when you have your cock inside them while doing mish ...Quote:
Originally Posted by syphon
You're obviously talking about me and the childish name-calling is completely unnecessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by numberonebigsize
I've already apologised in advance for coming across as defensive, I don't hide I'm a very happy customer of Wilson's and don't want to give any impression of speaking on his behalf. All I've tried to point out is that, imo, punters have clearly had unfounded and unrealistic expectations due to the price point. I've pointed out why I think that, given examples why I think that, and highlighted what I've read as Ginza's official stance on it.
No-one has yet been able to contradict that beyond saying "but, but, but, she costs more therefore she should perform better" .... which is an inherently floored assumption, also for reasons I've previously documented.
I also have a strong intolerance of stupidity in all its forms, and am not afraid to point it out when other guys completely fail to comprehend what has already been repeatedly stated. Sue me.
In light of all that, do you care to point out where I've "unmercifully attacked" anyone?? It's called a discussion, that's what forums are for. If you can't handle differing opinions (mind, mine's the only one with rational justification), then the interweb is clearly not for you.
With respect, I've never been there so can't comment personally, but my understanding is the girls at 533 are significantly older.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneonone
Anyways, that's by the by, my comment referred to Ginza's extras policy which is well documented. That cash goes direct in the girls pocket, with the service offered at her discretion, it's not reasonable to expect those are included in any category.
I enjoyed my time with dolly and paid for what I've got, a young mixed blood girl.
I don't compare girls because they are different and you get something different with each one. That is good because this is the variety we men like to have.
The classes are a general classification, for more money you tend to get younger and harder to find girls like mixed blood in this case.
Every girl strives to give you a good experience but chemistry between people are all different, so you can get a good punt or bad punt in any class.
In fact if Wilson can find a genuine 18 years old mixed Japan and Aussie like Melissa, I don't really care how she performs as long as I can have her.
If you just want a good punt, try only those that have been proven over time like Cassie, jasmin and more.
Punter, I think you have made your point clear about Ginza's policy, and thanks for clarifying things
My point is that Im not paying top dollar to a lady who has the same basic restrictions as many of my ex GFs, ie no CIM
CIM is a basic if Im paying top dollar. Full stop
My opinion, and the opinion of many
Now if 'mixed bloods' make the expense worthwhile, can we have a few examples of the racial mixtures you are talking about, to support your point of bigger expense = a better experience
Better still, refer to their roster & official girl descriptions. That's where it clearly states the Diamond girls are mixed, lists their heritage, and states that's what separates them from the pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
I've never said it's an advantage, since you asked my preference is for 100% Japanese girls, but variety IS the spice of life. :-)
Fair enough Punter Poontang, and there you are saying guys should pay a premium for mixed bloods. WTF ?
You like 100% J girl. Good stuff
My preference?
100% K girl
Oh, hang on, maybe 100% J girl
Hang on, 100% K girl
Oh forget it
No worries mate, appreciate your contribution to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
If it's that important to you, I'd suggest you clarify with them in advance whether or not CIM is going to be likely before booking a girl for the first time. I'm well aware of the policy so never expect it, although most will, for the record Dolly is not the first girl I've seen to deny it. It was in no way a dampener as it's not that important to me, the DFK thing was a slight dampener and I agree that's a legitimate complaint .... at ANY level at Ginza.
The other flaw of this "more expense means more beauty, not more services" is that often the most beautiful women are the coldest
If a gorgeous woman is not going to give me DFK, then to me its like licking my plasma screen while watching a movie actress in a movie
Cold
No mate, I never said that and note you've edited your earlier post to ask something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
All I'm doing is stating the shops reasons for differentiating those girls, and giving them a higher price range. I've deduced that solely from what's posted on the official roster / description page.
I guess there's a widely held belief that "Eurasians" are more beautiful .... while looks are always subjective, they're certainly more exotic and rarer to find. So I assume on some level you're paying for that rarity above all else, classic supply and demand at work!! :-)
EDIT: I'll note that although Dolly didn't use her tongue to kiss me, she was anything BUT cold.
At the end of the day its our choice, yes us the punter, if we are happy to pay the money the so be it, to me extra for a girl just because she is mixed or Japanese or Korean or Chinese, or Aussie or any other race is stupid.
Pay for what you like and in my case I like good service anything else is second, including age, size, shape, looks etc.
Some others may have specific things that turn them on and are prepared to pay extra for that!
Good on them go for it pay what you like.
If these girls aren't worth it then they wont last long in the end there are plenty of girls out there you can find anything you want and any size, shape, age, nationality, service, etc the only thing remains is where you want to get it and how much are you prepared to pay
Just find something that suits you and go for it, fortunately not all of us like or want the same thing, that's whats so good about our hobby punting.
Go pay what you like go where you like but most of all go and enjoy.
^^^^
Excellent post Oneonone. If guys don't click with her and don't return, or don't want to pay the mixed blood surcharge, of course that's their choice.
Just complain for valid reasons is all I'm saying. :-)
Sorry Punter Poontang for mistaking Ginza policy with your own.
I misread your post. I see your point
These mixed races must be ok if this is the Ginza principle for higher prices
But for me, I cant see how you can beat a 100% J or 100% K, and thats why I lost you
We all agree - everyone is entitled to their own preference(s).
Maybe I have to try more Eurasians ;)
For sure, but with so many opinions about Dolly you might be better off flipping a coin to decide. Lol. :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
Just remembered Catherine is back, she's a proper Eurasian (Japanese x French), just a little older at early 30's hence GCP level. Hmmm. ;-)
Thanks Punter Poontang
"Just remembered Catherine is back, she's a proper Eurasian (Japanese x French), just a little older at early 30's hence GCP level. Hmmm. ;-) "
Very nice
Suddenly you have made everything make perfect sense.
12 Bellevue will be a better place to go. All included. Cheaper price! $130/hrQuote:
Originally Posted by Oneonone
Or just go to 647 for the same girls without dramas.
You can say that again, not to mention the different descriptions of her looks. Is she as mentioned not that attractive and briefly mistaken for a transexual or is she as described in other reviews as being beautiful, delicate, a sex maniac with flawless skin? I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all those other well used cliches but that's a massive contrast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Impact
Firstly, I'm not a Ginza customer. As a matter of fact, I've never been to Ginza, so I'm not a die-hard supporter as such !Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
I don't believe CIM/COF should be the basic service for any level of service, that's not what you pay top dollars for ! If you consider these sorts of services as value for money, then go to 533 as Bro Oneonone suggests elsewhere, or better still, go to 12 Bellevue St, you'll get your money's worth !
Your opinion may be shared by many, but judging by the popularity of Ginza, I can say that the majority thinks otherwise !
I think the classifications of the girls at Ginza are based on the popularity of the girls, the feedbacks from her early customers, not on the level of services she provides, if that girl can maintain her popularity after being elevated to the highest class, that says a lot about where the majority of opinion lies !
To me, whether a girl is of pure blood, eg. pure-J, pure-K, mixed blood or whatever, does not add any value to her status, a good girl is a good girl, no matter where she's from !
"I don't believe CIM/COF should be the basic service for any level of service, that's not what you pay top dollars for !"
Fair points wilisno, and thats a very valid way to look at things
So where do you stand on DFK ?
Will you pay a premium, as some guys do, and DFK isnt on the menu
As I said before, being with a truly amazingly beautiful WL and not being able to DFK, to me, is the same as licking a plasma screen television as you watch a glamorous movie actress.
To me, DFK is essential, period ! But if I know one girl who doesn't do that, I just don't feel like seeing her, no matter what price she's on !Quote:
Originally Posted by heatseeker
I also said that might not be the way how Ginza grade their girls, it's not on the level of service, but on her popularity !