there are always exceptions to this rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntsman
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there are always exceptions to this rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntsman
q.e.d. ....
Whats that??
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It all depends.. do you have their personal phone number?
Do you see them outside their place of business.
Do and will they see you on their own time without any monetary compensation, etc.
If the answer is yes. Chances are you are their friend.. with or without benefits is another question.
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It all depends.. do you have their personal phone number?
Do you see them outside their place of business.
Do and will they see you on their own time without any monetary compensation, etc.
If the answer is yes. Chances are you are their friend.. with or without benefits is another question.[/
OP you are in too deep. The minute you stopped spending the money is the minute they drop you like a bag of dung
So the question is, are they friends worthy or just friends during good times? I think alot of them are genuinely quite nice but having to face alot of us (punters) caused them to be jaded at times. Not everyone of us is a gentleman who respects women. Just saying. haha.
Very true. Once you stop seeing them they lose interest in you immediately. Just remember, if you pay for a service you are a customer and not a friend. Even if a girl were to give her number to you it would be for business purposes. If there is a remote chance that she goes out with you socially and even introduces you to her friends during social outings then she might see you as a friend. I know this is unlikely to occur because the WLs would prefer not to mix their work with their personal and social lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by sukeong
On the other hand, let's consider this situation. I met this private Asian WL who use to advertise on backpage and cracker. She was very friendly and accommodating. She was even willing to have dinner with customers after meetings and didn't charge for the time she spent having dinner with you. Well, one time I was so hungry and she had no bookings so I invited her out for dinner after our meeting. During our discussion over dinner, she said if we continue to meet up for sex then she will regard me as a customer, however if I stop seeing her for sex, she will treat me as a friend. What do you say to this guys?
I guess many girls start out nice but when they get mishandled and shown no respect then they do change in some ways. However I know from experience that many girls do remember if you treat them with respect and how many times you hear stories from these girls of guys just being real jerks. You do pity them at times. On one occasion, I was talking to the receptionist and the girl. This guy who appeared to be of Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshian background walked passed us and grabbed the girl's private part and ran for the exit. Can you believe this? No wonder these girls have issues with many customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by dumbling
You're always a customer unless you stop seeing them in the shop once you start seeing them outside work.
If it's not friends with benefits I'm not sure why you'd want to be friends....it always always is a lose lose experience.
It's very unfortunate that people of that culture are often brought up in that way and believe they can get away with it. I remember hearing of an incident where a mother was holding a baby and a group of men gang raped her and threw the baby out the window! Another case a girl is raped and she is sentenced for having sex outside of marriage, or something like that. It's all quite disgusting and disgraceful if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
Having said that I've met some wonderful people from that culture and have been fortunate enough to call them friends. So it's a stereotype, but if i was a wl I'd have no issue in having a blanket no to these ethnic backgrounds, you need to protect yourself. Or at least until the client is well known to the establishment . And yes i acknowledge that is discrimination.
If you want to know if she sees you as a customer or a friend, ask yourself ' would she meet you outside the shop to hang out ? ' of course, MLs are supposed to give us that impression as part of their job! But I suspect they wouldn't mind being friends outside the shop with any nice guy whose company they enjoy.
Well, it's like if you go to a restaurant often, you become friendly with the owner. They do regard you as a sort of 'friend' aswell as their customer. Another analogy - do you consider your coworkers your friends? They are a sort of friend, but at the end of the day, they are your coworker foremost, unless you are hanging out with them outside work. We are a friend of sorts, but can't call ourselves a true friend unless we are hanging out with them outside the shop, no charge.
With MLs etc, we often share intimate things with them, physically and many things (eg sexual secrets etc) that we wouldn't tell friends/family so they can't help to form a sort of bond with you.
Personally, I consider all of my regular MLs, as 'friends'. I care about them as I would care about my real friends.
We are paying good money, to have a fantasy. But sometimes there is some reality in that fantasy.
You are a customer! you will always be a customer! If you want to have a good punt it pays to remember this you are always a customer the girl is only after the dollars.
[QUOTE=Alan86;835965]If you want to know if she sees you as a customer or a friend, ask yourself ' would she meet you outside the shop to hang out ? ' of course, MLs are supposed to give us that impression as part of their job! But I suspect they wouldn't mind being friends outside the shop with any nice guy whose company they enjoy.
Well, it's like if you go to a restaurant often, you become friendly with the owner. They do regard you as a sort of 'friend' aswell as their customer. Another analogy - do you consider your coworkers your friends? They are a sort of friend, but at the end of the day, they are your coworker foremost, unless you are hanging out with them outside work. We are a friend of sorts, but can't call ourselves a true friend unless we are hanging out with them outside the shop, no charge.
What if the WL go wiz u for a short destance travel, and ask u go to her friends' home for dinner together....
About 6 months ago i was at 142 and after about 15 minutes there was this huge sigh and the receptionist asked him whats wrong and he said nothing. Naturally i thought he had been waitng to long like me. Then about another 15 minutes later samme thing and he says "Ayumi didn't get my sense of humour if she was australian she would think i was funny."
No one had been paying any attention to him and he had been using up 1 of their waiting rooms for at least half hour.
I think the guys that hang around after their booking or go to the shop with no intention of spending time with 1 of the girls because they think they're friends with the mamasan or because they write positive reviews for the shop or whatever reason they do it are so disrespectful
[QUOTE=whoiam;835995]In that case, yes, I'd say she wants to be your friend. Why else would she invite you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan86
In simplistic terms, generally:
If you are middle aged and have nothing in common with her - she sees you as a punter
If you are young and or/ have things in common with her/ can connect with her - she sees you as a punter / friend
If you are young and or/ have things in common with her / can connect with her , and she sees you outside the shop - she sees you as a friend ( if also inside the shop then punter / friend)
If you are young and and or / have things in common with her / can connect with her , and are handsome / attractive otherwise - she sees you as a friend with benefits / sexual partner / punter (if also in the shop)
This is in simplistic terms what I would think would generally apply.
Of course, only a ML etc could truly answer this question
Can be both mang no think so much just don't smoke her crack pipe if she offer u be right else u gona run up a drug habit
I would call it more of an acquaintance
definition: a person one knows slightly, but who is not a close friend.
I agree with most of your post but could you really handle knowing that your SO had fucked 500-5000+ other guys?Quote:
Originally Posted by HereticMessiah
...but yes we are almost always just customers.
A friend of mine has had relationships with a couple of WL's. He is married and it has complicated his life immensely. He is reasonably well off and the WL's he has these relationships with are at the end of their career so to speak. There has to be some ulterior motive in these WL'S actions. He plays along with it and gets the benefits of BBFS (if you consider that a benefit)...he gets a few freebies here and there and has even got gifts from WL'S for his birthday.
We both visit the same shop. We were working together one Saturday. I had arrived at work and got a call from him from the shop saying he will be late because he had extended with th WL. He called me from the room and i could here her giggling in the background. I said 'say hi to xxx for me'. He showed up later on and was showing me a whatsapp chat he was having with her. She had told the WL i had been visiting what happened and she wanted my number. I passed it on and not long after i had got a message from her saying 'hi i am xxx remeber me? When you come see me'.
I have been pretty much been punting with her since. I have seen 2 other WL's in that time, one was in Melbourne. Whilst we do know a bit about each other on a personal level, she is really only treating me as a regular customer. She is really only interested in when I am coming to see her next. I like her service but now i have seen her 7 or 8 times the excitment is waning a little. It is time to move on and find another WL.
In response to the Ops initial question 'are we friends or customers' i say we are customers first. We may get to a level of friendship of sorts but do you really want that from the WL you are seeing? It can complicate your life even more than just hiding a puntimg habit and if it does go to the next level with a WL, what are they seeking from the arrangement?
Anyone ever got a contact from a WL and was told to not see her in the shop but you hang out outside of the shop?
Recently, I came across two WLs in the city. I have seen both girls a few times because they were always friendly and chatty during our sessions. Guess what? They ignored me! To answer the question again. We are CUSTOMERS and not friends !!!!!!!!!!!!!
She offers to pay and does pay for her drinks or my food. Even offered to pay for my taxi/uber home lol.
Lucky you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yageez88