ML's can't have boyfriends...?

Catching feelings for WLs/MLs is a no no. I mean, mighty tempting to try and "conquer" one, but definitely not worth the headache.

If I was single and some how got to hooking up with an ML/WL, I'd ask her to quit too. I wouldn't get into the petty shit like how many men she's been with, but certainly not still being active in that profession. And as respect for her, I'd obviously have to quit punting too. Failure for either party to comply will only grow animosity. Toxic shit for any relationship.

But yes, general rule for the noobies, punting and personal life are two separate entities.

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Originally Posted by rooter

This is the dilemma for MLs and WLs.
Guys they meet as customers they don't trust as a boyfriend.

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Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Its a bit ironic they they think it is ok for themselves to work as a ML/WL but then not to trust one of their customers as a boyfriend ...

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Both statements are generalisations and not universally true

This is an interesting topic and raises two very different questions for me. 1) would I want my gf to work as a ml/wl. To me I can think of several reasons why my answer is no, and babycat none of them reflect badly on the girl. They are around not trusting the men (would they pressure her to break her boundaries, would they treat her badly)that would see her, around the pressure for sexual performance placed on men and the male ego (are a lot of the men bigger, better than me etc). The second question which seems similar but is different is, could I have a ml/wl as a gf. I think many who would answer no to the first question would answer yes to the second. Though in most cases, and probably mine too, it would come to a point in the relationship when you would want the girl to quit, for reasons in 1).

You would be surprised how many MLs actually do have boyfriends. During some sessions, some MLs were upfront and revealed being in a relationship. Some also stated that they weren't prepared to do extras because this would be betraying their boyfriend's trust. On the other hand, there are those who definitely keep it a secret from their boyfriends or even husbands that they work as MLs. I wonder how long they can keep it as a secret. What if the boyfriend or husband questions his girl what she does or sees her walking into a shop, what will she say to him? Honey, I'm getting a massage or working as a waitress in a restaurant. :shout:

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Reminds me of the time I massaged a ML recently, had my hands all over and was sucking her tits and licking her clit, then she stopped me from licking her clit and said she didn't want to cum as it would betray her boyfirend ....

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Just recently I came across a Thai ML who stated that she had a boyfriend back in Thailand and therefore she couldn't do any extras. She wanted to remain faithful to him. What's the probability that her boyfriend was with other girls?

We all know long distance relationships generally don't last.

This topic hurts my brain ..

Especially the thought of my Mrs offering up her body to other men.
Being the hypocritical male that I am, I would not bat an eyelid if she were to do that with other females.

This whole industry has is the product of men's needs.
Maybe the men are the issue here?

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Yes men are the issue, all types of men including wo men ...

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Blame the man again. It was Eve who tempted Adam with the apple not the other way round. Lol

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Originally Posted by poundher

Designer shoes and handbags and drug addiction = girls working in sex industry.
Besides that some of these girls want to send money home to support family.
You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

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Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

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Originally Posted by poundher

You would have to be a special kind of understanding guy who allows his gf to be jacking off guys all day.

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Thanks mate!
But, it all comes down to the quality/honesty of communication between two people, self awareness about what you will and won't accept (not what you 'think' you'll accept or not accept - you can only get this from living a full life), clearly letting the other person know your boundaries and unconditionally accepting their boundaries (not trying to get them to change theirs to make yourself feel better), each person needing to know what the other needs to inoculate/soothe against jealousy /suspicion, and uncompromising commitment to respecting these boundaries, communicating whenever you start to feel disconnected and giving what the other truly needs to trust you.... It's what's needed to make any relationship work, not just for the ML/punter.

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Originally Posted by Massage King

There are plenty of girls surviving and paying their bills by working normal jobs, so it is possible.

We all have choices, and rightly or wrongly some choices come with consequences. That's just how things work.

WL/ML have choices just like punters do.

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Agreed. In the beginning of my entry into this (out of desperate loneliness and having social awkwardness which I am dealing with ) I used to have an enormous sympathy for most of these ladies. But in recent times I realised that it's best to be neutral on this. Upon calculation there is a lot of cash being earned in a certain range and this amount is far more than neccessary for fees and living. A large percentage of punters that frequent such places are not earning nearly as much as even an ML. The government is rather stupid -- the money Is merely being circulated within of this country instead to pay fees -- there is no export of education so to speak to bring foreign dollars in here. As for the ML's/WL's I think greed takes over after a few months for the successful ones. It affects some , but yes eventually there are many girls working for 20 per hour in ordinary jobs still managing to pay for their time or experience into oz. It is quite sad in either case. Because on both sides theirs an erosion of something (punter and W/ML).

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Originally Posted by cmk76

Then I must be an extra special guy who would come home to an ex gf who had swallowed a client's load and still wanted to make out with me... No, it wasn't easy living with a uni student/escort gf... It made me feel less of a man when she was making more money than I was...

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Truth. At what point would a girl quit. People do go through career change 3 times they say. And it's inevitable in this field that value declines with age. Difference between ginza rate and 533 rate is an example. And I am sure that after a number of years Jacking off guys all day is not doing the girls brain matter any good nor aiding in development of ideas on how to get out of this mediocre role. And it seems like they could become slave to themselves and spend all this money on addictions --my frequency of this reduced dramatically when I realised that some form of addiction was used to keep these girls going after being fucked by 10 to 15 guys a day. That is a soul sapping activity.

But after all, it's hard for a ml having boyfriend, right?

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

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Originally Posted by Newbee

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

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What a sad thing to say.
I've met a few ML's I would very happily have as a girlfriend (though she would have to stop working, I would get too jealous/paranoid).

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Originally Posted by Newbee

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

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Nobody has to know what she has done to make her money.
Smart wls/mls work long enough to get ahead then get out of the industry.
With the right financial advice it can easily be done.

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Originally Posted by Newbee

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

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Shut up you ...lol.
No one is asking you!

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Originally Posted by woods23

Shut up you ...lol.
No one is asking you!

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Here we go again...

Actually many ML don't want to have a boyfriend. They want to be free to earn their money.

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Originally Posted by Newbee

I'd be embarassed if my gf was a ml/wl... it brings shame to your family

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I understand that it's tough situation. We have families and social lives around.

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Originally Posted by garfield

Actually many ML don't want to have a boyfriend. They want to be free to earn their money.

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I'm not sure about others. Some of my colleagues want to be free to earn money. They want a good life with luxurious items around them, or they have to support their families. Some don't like serious relationships but just want sex partners.

Personally, I need someone who misses me indeed and be honest to me. A real relationship that I can be myself to him, and I can please him and make him happy.
The problem is I don't know if he's genuine or not, needs me to walk through the storms together or just wants my body. Also, I need time to prepare for my next steps. It's hard to stop everything suddenly without preparing. It doesn't mean that I chose money instead of him and he's not important to me. It's very easy if I just live for myself but I don't want to be a burden of anyone I love.
But he gets paranoid that I don't have enough time for him and instead of belong to him only, I let other guys look and touch me. And that's my fault.

From what I have seen and heard from personal friends.

1. (STRONG RECOMMENDATION) TRY NOT TO date a ML/WL if you cant support her financially. Rollercoaster of emotions coming
2. First 3-4 months you/her will know if its genuine. Hence it repeats to rule 1. She aint going to quit if you cant support her financially.
3. If you really want to and financially your not able to support her. Just be prepared and be strong.

But in saying so its nothing different to a normal relationship. It requires both parties to work together. My mates both poor and rich have ML wives. Communication and trust are the most important aspects of any relationship but money makes things a lot easier. And the MLs are not gold diggers well the MLs who are my mates wives now.

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Originally Posted by simplelife

From what I have seen and heard from personal friends.

1. (STRONG RECOMMENDATION) TRY NOT TO date a ML/WL if you cant support her financially. Rollercoaster of emotions coming
2. First 3-4 months you/her will know if its genuine. Hence it repeats to rule 1. She aint going to quit if you cant support her financially.
3. If you really want to and financially your not able to support her. Just be prepared and be strong.

But in saying so its nothing different to a normal relationship. It requires both parties to work together. My mates both poor and rich have ML wives. Communication and trust are the most important aspects of any relationship but money makes things a lot easier. And the MLs are not gold diggers well the MLs who are my mates wives now.

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Agreed. Communication and trust are very important. Instead of being openly, after few months, I find it difficult to communicate that made me deliberate .

I'm not into relationships -1 hour with a girl is like a happy 5 year marriage for me.
So whether a girl is a nurse, or lawyer, or ML, or WL, or waitress makes no difference to me - I'm not gonna date her either way ...
I wish them all happiness with a nice guy ...