So I call it a quit and here is my memoir

Thanks for the original post, I appreciate your honesty. I also found the whole sugar daddy/sugar babes stuff interesting.

I'm not sure if you have answered this already but what exacy are you looking for from these ML/WL/SB?

N_S thats a fair point, but he seems he already has a wife/family and friends that would presumably offer the things you mentioned.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Newbie_Sydney

Lostinblonde. It seems you are searching for genuine, emotional attachment and support within an industry that is mainly about paid, physical encounters.

---

No truer words could be said about the pasttime of punting and its shortcomings

For many, punting meets the short term need of physical sex without the obligations of courtship, when that physical need is not being met at home.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Forward Must Hang

One day, I was giving a lift to my aunt when a guy in his 50s drove past in a convertible. My aunt said something about a mid-life crisis in a disparaging way. I fired up. "I don't think that's fair. There goes a guy who has something he wants. How do you know he hasn't worked his whole life to provide for his family and his kids have finally moved out, he has received an inheritance, and has taken the opportunity to give himself something he's always wanted but denied himself because he put others first?"

A mid life "crisis" is a real thing, but not so much the crisis part. It's natural to hit that point in life where friends are getting sick, dying early, parents are ageing and dying, your youth is behind you, you groan when you get up from the sofa etc.

When you hit puberty, you had to deal with that. You left school and got a job or studied - you had to deal with that. You go through all these life changes and things aren't the same as they used to be. It's life. There comes a point where the puberty-crisis becomes the school leaver-crisis and then the married man, mortgage crisis etc. Middle age is just another era. Mid life "crisis" is just dealing with another phase of life.

Don't beat yourself up over it.

Whatever happens and whatever you choose to do, be true to yourself and remember to look after those who matter to you. And good luck brother. Whatever you choose, good luck.

---

Wise words my friend.

Looking for more than just sex with WLs/MLs/sugar babies etc is gonna end in tears, stress, getting ripped off, grief, getting used, regrets, guilt etc.
If you just punt and leave it at that then it's an enjoyable experience, and awesome fun.
And there is no point demonising the girls. They are just doing what they do.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by rooter

Looking for more than just sex with WLs/MLs/sugar babies etc will always end in tears, stress, getting ripped off, grief, getting used, regrets, guilt etc.
If you just punt and leave it at that then it's an enjoyable experience, and awesome fun.
80% of the posts in the General Forum are by guys who can't just simply do this, and then give themselves all sorts of stress and heartache.
And there is no point demonising the girls. They are just doing what they do.
The guys bring all this upon themselves.

---

So true. People wanting one thing to be something else
As you say, once people get their head around what punting is and isnt, its 100% fun and pleasure. It is not about finding attachment. Its enjoying an intense physical pleasure with someone else, and leaving with great memories, pretty much like a connesssieur samples a fine meal, then walks out of the restaurant, with his spirit uplifted and a smile on his face
He cant have that meal at home, he dines out for the experience, and for a price, he experiences lifes delights.

If my family, career, friends etc is my real life, then punting is my second life to get something that I cannot get in my real life. But after a while, I’m just wondering which is exactly the real life. They are probably not compatible but are they convertible and interchangeable?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lostinblonde

I’m just wondering which is exactly the real life. They are probably not compatible but are they convertible and interchangeable?

---

Mate, this hobby is messing with your head.

The intense rush of feelings we get with a new woman is composed entirely of neural activity and hormones. That is all they are. Destiny didn't bring you and your lover together. We must remind ourselves not to attach more meaning to these encounters, and the emotions that result from these encounters. One of the most dangerous things that can happen is when your feelings override logic. You may make decisions or sacrifices that you would never make with post-masturbatory mental clarity.

All of this requires focus. Good luck.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by niva321

Mate, this hobby is messing with your head.

The intense rush of feelings we get with a new woman is composed entirely of neural activity and hormones. That is all they are. Destiny didn't bring you and your lover together. We must remind ourselves not to attach more meaning to these encounters, and the emotions that result from these encounters.

All of this requires focus. Good luck.

---

The scientists have implicated the hormone oxytocin to this process.
.
Punters are oxytocin junkies. The natural hormone of love and lust

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by murphy

The scientists have implicated the hormone oxytocin to this process. Google it
.
Punters are oxytocin junkies. The natural hormone of love and lust

---

I know. It wasn't necessary to make my point.

Looking for love in all the wrong places ...

Sb 3 and 4 added. No judgement please.

'he apologised again but confessed that she was very uncomfortable in the room for some reason and concluded that she was not the right type of girl for me'

These are the feelings and emotions I definitely want to avoid entirely in life. My punting is a transient thrill, no cross purposes or emotional ambiguities

This is my confusion as well. If the first meeting is in the room directly it is purely physical and apparently she has been doing that for a while so I’m very confused what was in her head at that moment.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Looking for love in all the wrong places ...

---

No fine girls, just ugly faces...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by murphy

Yes I remember walking out of a brothel, after seeing a regular, and seeing this 100kg guy with big gut and business shirt walking in. Im sure some of these walk-ins (fat/sweaty/smelly) or drunk, can be told by the mamasan that "we are busy today", to send them on their way, and preventing any WL having to deal with them. I hope thats the case

We can really make a WLs day in some if these smallers shops, by being well groomed, having good hygeine and being a gentleman, treating the WL with respect

---

No need to fat shame other punters... All punters come in different shapes and sizes, just like the girls... We're not all born with bodies like Adonis... No matter how well groomed or not, you're still just a transaction...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by cmk76

No need to fat shame other punters... All punters come in different shapes and sizes, just like the girls... We're not all born with bodies like Adonis... No matter how well groomed or not, you're still just a transaction...

---

Ive removed this reference

The whole dating thing with anonymous women from internet turned out for me, to be a massive waste of time and energy. Been there done that and I was depressed once I realised how inefficient it was in terms of time expended. But some love the chase

For every hot stud that gets a root with every date, there are 10 men wasting valuable time

YMMV

To OP, is your wife asian as well ? Just wondering if this is also the case of grass being greener.

first time reading this thread and tbh it's quite interesting
I have always heard those sugar babies saying "no intimacy" but from what lostinblonde said, it seems these girls are always up for sex, it's just another form of money in exchange for sex.
I can relate as I've been in similar situation where I wonder about what I want the most in my life and what I should look for, but I've got out of that situation.
my advice is to "have a clear goal" and work towards it, nothing else matters, the goal being your career, or your family, or your love life, pick one and go for it, everything else along the way can't interfere.
I find it interesting to hear about your experience with blonde/caucasian girls, wonder how it works out for asian guys with caucasian girls.

first time reading this thread and tbh it's quite interesting
I have always heard those sugar babies saying "no intimacy" but from what lostinblonde said, it seems these girls are always up for sex, it's just another form of money in exchange for sex.
I can relate as I've been in similar situation where I wonder about what I want the most in my life and what I should look for, but I've got out of that situation.
my advice is to "have a clear goal" and work towards it, nothing else matters, the goal being your career, or your family, or your love life, pick one and go for it, everything else along the way can't interfere.
I find it interesting to hear about your experience with blonde/caucasian girls, wonder how it works out for asian guys with caucasian girls.

it is just a paid for service
never forget that
Shane

The cultural nuance is real that’s my finding: what applies to Asian girls are not usually welcomed by Caucasian- they are more rationale, mature and independent.

Partner is Japanese so yeah an Asian

Is it a generalisation that a Japanese lady goes off sex after marrying. And if so why?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lostinblonde

Partner is Japanese so yeah an Asian

---

Tell us more about Japanese girls