Getting to know each other isnt the best practice when punting. Best to keep at arms length. I doubt you can control your feelings once the ML leaves the job and cuts off all contact
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Getting to know each other isnt the best practice when punting. Best to keep at arms length. I doubt you can control your feelings once the ML leaves the job and cuts off all contact
Been to plenty of Massage shops in the past, but no brothels. I actually only recently realised that they were legal here in Sydney
Generally I choose to go to ML's and enjoy it for the conversation, it feels less like a "Transaction", but some ML take the cash for extra's during intermission, which does ruin it. I'm going to try the other side, and see how we go!
Its fun to hear what people say about RnT.
'RnT feels less like a transaction'
Is this right? I recently had a ML ask me for $200 tip. I obviously said no. Pretty off putting. Compared to the great brothels we have, where its walk in, pay and then just enjoy
Dont mind massage for variety, but for me it is much more a transaction than FS
I prefer RnT then FS shops, tried FS twice at the start of my punting career (3 years ago) but didn’t feel comfortable. Maybe would be different now.
The fact MLs are not doing everything with everyone seems to be a “feel good” thing but that’s purely a mental thing as it’s pretty obvious most MLs at least for repeat customers are offering most extras equally (if not at equal prices!! YMMV and your prices may vary!)
With MLs I found it easier initially it’s just a massage and things go on from there so seems a natural transition. Although often now I skip part 1...
In either ML / WL both is a transaction for sexual services so under no illusions that this is anything else although I did get close to a couple of MLs in the past.
I think one of the earlier posts said once an ML knows their worth they go to FS .. I would question that.. I know a few top MLs and they are making more $$$ then they would as WLs.
@ellison $200!! yeh there are some MLs that try and pull a fast one. But i think some WLs would try that if they could.
ML tried to hit me up to ‘sponsor’ her trip home for anal. WTF that’s $500+Quote:
Originally Posted by ellison
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Not sure of some ML who pops in to work one or two days them disappear for weeks. Maybe they are WL
I am sure there are WLs moonlighting in RnT shops from time to time! 🙂Quote:
Originally Posted by Xcode
I am a WL guy that occasionally steps into the world of RnT and I do that because a particular ML ignites my interest, whether that be pictures I see, ARs or discussions here or pm's with other forum members.
I have different moods when I punt so I match the mood with the shop/girl I see. Like a mate says to me, I punt like I am scratching an itch.
$200 tip for the privilege and pleasure of sexing your favourite massage lady where other punters can’t just walk in and stick his dick into her mouth and pussy ! Why not ? If you have the cash ? I can’t afford to do that often as I’m not even a FS guy but on those rare occasions or very special moments when you got the cash and the urge , I did it !Quote:
Originally Posted by ellison
# 8 Vivian with 36 D Cups at Zanadu (after half a dozen session where I only got nude HJ and no Spanish as she didn’t want oil on her body ! Since I could not fuck her tits , I just got to fuck her ! Paid $200 at the counter after the session and the receptionist was looking at me with a cheeky smile as if ......., never mind , BTW, a couple more subsequent fucks and she was happy to let me have my way for $100!) then there was a Korean babe with 38 DD Cups at Chequers (korean b2b section - the Spanish was awesome and she had this look on her face as if she was O’ing when I fuck her big soapy tits ! I just have to put my cock into her mouth and look at her face then and the whole porn scene ! I asked her how much for FS , she said $200, I came back the following week and book her with the cash)
There you go, there had been a few more massage ladies over the year I would have paid the $200 or more but couldn’t - regrets absolutely - Tamara the 19 year old blonde Aussie beach babe with 34 DD Cups with At Michelle’s on level 5 Newland Street - used to see her like weekly ! And still couldn’t have a taste !!
Dont get me wrong Ahlungor, I did give it some thought. But I was also mentally comparing her to the brothel in the neighboring suburb where I could get good quality full service on a proper bed for $150/1 hour, instead of the money she was asking for. Both are good options
Also Im finding massage shops are getting very hot in temperature, which is becoming a deciding factor. They tend to be smaller and less ventilation.
My main point is replying to someone saying that RnT was less a transaction, which I was debating. I may see that lady this week though, she was hot
There is fun to be had everywhere. We are so lucky. And Im not getting anyone in trouble, the ML was offering massage
I value a good massage, and the ending is the cherry on top!
I don't have much experience but I have found that prettier WLs are on the more expensive shops while most massage shops charge around the same rate so its really just about looking for the one that suits you.
If you are looking for value for money, I would agree that FS is better value all around, but ML provides the thrill of the hunt if you're looking for it.
For me, I think I need the connection.
Have tried both before, and the hunt and connection of the ML is undeniably something that I prefer.
Or I haven't found the right WL yet.....
I have only been doing WL for the past 3 years. Sounds like the chase of extras with ML is fun. Not quite sure about the price difference, will need to confirm this one. I am used to paying $300/hr for what to me are mostly stunning WLs. I am ok with that until I add all up, then it feels like I can deal with this using my right hand. Regrets I suppose.
Will try a ML this week and le you know
After doing only WL's for past 4 years, I ventured into the land of the ML's last week. I found one with extras on offer. I was generally put off by the nature of the whisper and the negotiations, but this girl did it so beautifully and it ended up being a great session.
Would I go back? Yes, defnitely. I though use this forum to do my research first !
With ML, I have time to build up my relationship with them. I enjoyed the talking and see if they are willing to connect. With WL, it’s usually just go straight to the sex and I don’t find much connection, thus less enjoyable
ml’s for me. the build up is what makes it. plus the unknown question of how far extras will go.
These days no whisper from ML. It's straight to the point for many MLs now.Quote:
Originally Posted by unixrules
Would you mind PMing me the rates you were offered? After doing WLs for so long just need to double check.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
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ML and ML Masaman is usually my favourite. But part-time WL also good.
Full time WL at shop is no good for me.
If they're young (18-23) and they just want to dip their feet in the water... they do ML not WL at shop., maybe part-time WL at MOC or KMP.
They are not jaded.
Still fresh with GFE. Still that cute immature attitude.
The moment they enter shop, they immediately age 5 to 10 years.
The best shop performers WL are in their late 20s - early 30s.
They provide good service - yes. but no je ne sais quoi
so they are no good aside from unloading and going.
Then in the 35s-45s category, you have the masaman.
They are full of character.
You don't want full service WL shop masaman, too management, too business school orientation
You want casual human touch ML shop amateur masaman.
She comes and gives you massage, chats like ahlungor.
There is a shop no matter how many times i go to never made it to fs. Best i got was cbj. I tried different girls there and the common answer is Mamasan is strict. Not sure how mamasan would know since shes not always there but apparently she can found out. She also check bags for condoms too.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
Or maybe im just 1inch and not worth bothering to them, who knows
Listen to this guy. Woodland is a pro.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodland
it comes with experience.
first you think you go for the pretty ones. but sometimes they have some syndrome. princess some call it.
then you go for the well regarded ones. the ones with lots of positive reviews. but no. the well written ones can provide good service but they don't have "it".
they are not special, instead they are shared around and widely acknowledged.
so of course the girls with that special panache or joie de vivre ...
they may not be the best looking but have some unique traits.
they are not written about, not shared. kept secret by the punters that approach her.
the best punts i have had are with new girls. they don't know how to service, so you can set the tone.
they are not jaded, and have not yet been priced to equilibrium by the market
their expectations are raw.
Just think.
For every punt we read, there are hundreds unwritten.
Sniff. do your homework. be german sheppard.
Plan. read the bad reviews. for good reviews, read what is not written in the review, not what is written. in the spaces, you see, you will find the truth.
You get to flirt with a ML plus also it’s a CFNM thing
I know which shop you're talking about, and there's no need to hide its identity. It's 227 Broadway, isn't it? I think a lot of bros would know how strict Alice is in regards to "her" girls offering FS in her shop. What really burns is the shop has everything it needs... Ensuites in the room, proper brothel licensed, and girls that are certainly willing to earn the dough.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1inchguy
I used to be a regular there many years ago but the whole no-FS policy made my visits there progressively boring to the point I have never set foot in that shop for years now.
It's such a wet blanket on everything!
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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
Mate, I think it’s time you make a return to Broadway!
Don’t quote me but I’m pretty certain the house policy has been relaxed somewhat to allow some extra micro economy to blossom inside the privacy of the en-suite rooms . I think Covid might have done some of us a little favour there.
Cheers
This thread is a great read I now can pinpoint why never been into MLs. I don't like playing games with women or being played ... Each to their own.