It's a Time Waster Tax (T.W.T.). Like it or lump it.
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It's a Time Waster Tax (T.W.T.). Like it or lump it.
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Originally Posted by holi_day
Yep, thats definitely worth a T.W.T.
I should start to do T.W.T every time my colleagues call a meeting.
I mean come on, I had to:
*Put my phone down (a big hassle when ive almost cleared level 69)
*Put my work shoes on again
*Fix my hair up (just in case)
/jokes
Anyway, this should probably be in general, its not an AR
I didn't say it was "wrong".Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
It is just a business model that doesn't work for me and which I could not recommend to others to participate in (at least without warning them about it).
... and its not really about risk per se. In the hundreds of lineups I have participated in over the years, I would not have walked away more than 2 or 3 times. But for me the option to walk away is important.
Trust cuts both ways.
Still no confirmation from management that this is policy, nor any word of it on their website.
I second this. I wont have been in as many as the veteran Boater, but i think ive walked from a lineup or girl rotation intro only once that i can actually recall because of not wanting to pick anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by boater
I distinctly remember it was at Christina 27 at Villa, its actually the first and last time i went there, earlier punting days.
I went in, papasan greeted me and directed me to sit down in a room. Then, i was literally accosted by Jabba the Hutt. No disrespect to Women, but this lady was both humungous and unpleasant to look at. She sidled up next to me and crooned about what she would do to me, i just literally got up and said no im going. She practically chased me out saying just talk, just talk, but i wasnt having it.
The only times ive walked is when someone ive wanted wouldnt be available, or no one is available and i would have to wait more than half an hour, both reason i think are perfectly reasonable to move on.
Thankfully Central is just down the road, and from there it less than 10 minutes on the train to Sydenham, and less than a 10 minute walk to ladies of similar quality at #5 Marrickville where there is definitely no fee to see the lineup.
So for those who are uncomfortable, as I am, there is an easy alternative.
Ginza Empire is of course perfectly within their rights to run their business how they please.
I just would recommend to those who approach me to ask, that they go elsewhere if this is actually Ginza Empire policy.
Like you, I've never experienced this either having been to 278 for a few years, so can understand that you're skeptical about what took place. But what I wrote was exactly what happened - in and out in around 3 mins.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjiurbanz
Another punter said he witnessed it happening to another person so I'm not unique.
This is not a real comparison when you think about it. A company declining to sell you a product is very different to asking you to pay before you see the product. And if it's a business decision then that's ok as well, but disclosure is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
Call it what you will. Just disclose it so people who disagree don't waste their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by hornedone
if everything you said is true, you would of least have some rapport with them and this scenario should of never manisfested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayday
perhaps it could be new staff ? i've had issue with their new staff before, but they sorted it out.
i strongly believe they do the right thing. perhaps this was just a misunderstanding.
another point, what kind of business can score 100% success rate ? anyone here has a shop or business? ever has customer come in ask question bla bla bla and then go? what do you think of them? time waster? angry? try to charge some $? call bikies to beat them outside your shop? no. its just how the business is. because we are dealing with human. its risk of running business. unless you put a big sign on the door, then dont pick some customers and make them pay because you think they are time waster (unless they come like everyday asking line up and always say no).
i dont understand how some punters here support the shop. gee..... wait till you one day go to another new shop and they give you the same treatment, they i bet you will come here and complain the same... its our money. 5,10,20 popular girls on the line up means nothing if i dont like all of them.
not saying 278, but MAYBE some shops think the girls are just some commodities, so if there are 15 girls available, you must like at least one of them because they are just the same, right bro? they are just girl. just pick one, pay and get on...... next customer!
well, not for me. i respect the girls and think they are as individual who work harder than me.
me too. Does it seem like we are disturbing them by coming to the shop ???? so when i come one day it is possible the papasan will say sorry all girls are playing games and checking facebook on their mobile now, we cant disturb them. come back later bro...Quote:
Originally Posted by JetSetWilly
.... actually some girls are really looking forward to go for line up, because they need MONEY and get picked by customers. like nicole for example. with all so so review here how can she get customers if not through lining up?
.....but some girls yes they don't want to go out unless only 5 girls are free because they have enough booking (example, emma from 278 told me this) im not sure, maybe she just afraid to meet a friend of friend for example. Vietnamese community is not so big in sydney.
All this asking for money in advance is not good for the girls. The girls coming for line up only hope to be pick especially the less popular one.
As for the shop the girls is only a products to them.
because them and ginza do a better job in this then any other shop aroundQuote:
Originally Posted by iphone
what i dont understand is how you guys are complaining about a pay before you see policy.
you have the ability to see without ever paying. its called website http://www.278club.com.au/Roster
its got pictures and a roster and kept upto date daily.
I routinely book ahead, having done my research here and run to book the lady I would like to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjiurbanz
The only time I have done lineups is when the girl I have booked has not shown up or I am stopping by on a whim.
So by definition I don't know who is available.
If I know a shop will want me to commit to seeing a girl before I know who is available (via a lineup) I would prefer to go somewhere that doesn't want such a commitment.
I also know people who (surprise surprise) a different to me - and different to you too Kenjiurbanz - who prefer a lineup to researching and booking in advance.
Up till now when such people have approached me with questions like "Who has the best lineup in Sydney" my "go to" reply has been "Ginza Empire".
Should this "pay before you see" approach turn out to be policy at Ginza Empire (or even policy for folks they don't know - which would have to include anyone I sent there), then I can't continue really recommend them for a lineup.
Just found a recent thread with similar complaints where Ginza management apologized but whatever improvements they made didn't last long, or improved at all.
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...nagement/page2
Not sure if the guy dubbed the "Little Hitler" is the same person that I met. Only difference is I was there around 8.30pm on a Friday.
Have you thought that perhaps some of us prefer to see in person what we're getting for our money, as oppose to looking at pics on the website? I've been to countless places and the girls look nothing like their pics. Or pics have face hidden and you realise when you get there that she's closer to mid 30 than mid 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjiurbanz
So when they can guarantee pics aren't photoshop and taken recently (not 5 years ago), then we may part with our money based on trust. Until then, we still want to see before we buy.
Fully agree. It's easy for those who often goes to a shop to say that they trust them, but they don't think about infrequent or new customers. Trust goes both ways - if shop don't trust that you're a genuine customer, then why should you trust them?Quote:
Originally Posted by iphone
Kenji.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjiurbanz
Come on man. This isnt a phone or static inanimate object where what you see is 100% what you will get.
If im buying a phone, and I do my research and see multiple pics of say a google pixel, and I KNOW I have the right model, then I check the specs, do the comparisons with phones on the same tiering and make my choice. I know if I buy 1 or 100 of the same phone, I will (with maybe tiny variation in heat/speed or build quality) get the exact same experience every phone of the same model.
Are you exactly the same as 3 years ago? Are you balding now, or a wild mane, maybe you now have a six pack... or a 1 pack. Nothing stops you from putting up a shot of you on the net when you were in your prime and say its you. Because your not lying it IS you, but you just dont look like that anymore.
With the amount of filters and special effects on even smartphones now, its even more difficult to tell. And of course Women know all the tricks to glam themselves up.
Am I saying that Ginza/278 put fake pics up? Of course not. Its very likely to be them, they may just not look like that anymore. They wear a 1 piece to hide a bit of chubbiness. Or they have a hectic push up bra which gives them cleavage for days, but when it comes off, you get 2 lemons inside stockings look.
Ask people who have done privates to "go by the pics" only and see what kind of response you get 🤣
Happy Monday. 2 days till a puntski for me
absolutely understand what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayday
most other shops + internet are appauling. yes i know. they advertise ferraris and give you a broken prius. I had to start using the conceirge staff in my apartment to not let these pork chops up.
that being said - i would be here trashing that shop instead of defending. that kind of shop will never gain any loyal customer base or supporters that would want to defend em
278/ginza isnt perfect - but their good enough.
If no likey, go to other place.
Wow!!! fireup. Ya we are buying a girl to have fun with. All girls are unique as individuals so the shop say all the same are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by F0x
Another reason to never visit this shop again. What kind of bullshit policy is this?
Last time I went was a few months ago and they started charging 10% on Eftpos, when I asked the Papasam when did this happen? He rudely replied "You want or not?" Old mate needs a swift kick to the head.
Yeah I want to know it is really cost them 10% when people use card? If I have a shop I won't charge extra, it's actually providing a convenient for customers.
And about photos, all the girls looks so white definitely Photoshop's. Nah, just some girls we can rely on their photo ie Jin. Some are just way too different. Especially the body part....
They have to report the GST which is 10% because in bank statementQuote:
Originally Posted by iphone
lol what bullshit, as if anyone would pay before seeing
this shop deserves a boycott to get the message