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HK pretty ladies. But not sure if I would get a massage from them.
Yes it is fantastic news that the industry is being allowed to gradually reopen.
I for one have been very fortunate that i had a decent amount of savings behind me haven't not being able to work and see clients the past few months.
The only worry that my fellow WL and myself have is that the virus still exist, with the huge amount of people still out of work, domestic/international borders still closed, country in recession and people's disposable income severely affect, businesses may be slow for at least the first 6-12 months.
For NSW See: https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what...do-under-rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Extracted from that page
"From June 13th
Personal services
Tattoo and massage parlours can reopen with up to 10 clients.
Strip clubs and sex services premises are closed."
So definitely 10 clients.
Think you might be onto something there Jessica, though I guess it is also possible that the pent up demand will overwhelm all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JessicaKC69
Reasonable conclusion Jessica - but we are still a first world country and many of the punters are still in work - I think you’ll be ok 👍
I’m a good example of the punter community I think , and though I’m out of work I am saving my $$ and going about 1/3 as often - but still going ;0)
No doubt there will be a rush of business initially.
Many will have been able to save money during this period of time, even those out of work and now on the government benefits & stimulus will likely have some disposable income initially.
The medium-longer term will be interesting though, especially now that we are officially in recession.
Some (but not all) shops may have been able to get discounted (or even free) rent during this period of time. This will soon stop. If the cash flow isn't there for the owners it will be a challenge to keep up with operating costs.
I'm sure there will be a stampede (lol) since many have been hibernating like bears waiting for the moment to have their sexual release in the hands of a woman. Then it will settle down after a few weeks.
I have mine yesterday at a 'remedial' massage with an ex 42/278 girl for 1 hrs. Haven't seen her 4 months and put on a bit of weight but still very nice figure.
Mali Mali Thai at Chatswood open for business as usual, as a certified remedial massage shop. Mamasan plus 2 girls, normal hours. Only proviso is you have to record your name, mobile number, reason for visit and signature, and get your temperature checked. Otherwise all good !!
Also Massage Shop upstairs at Victoria Plaza, Victoria Avenue, Chatswood on the quiet with Chinese MILF Linda if you are interested. No names required.
Most of the girls I met are in good/better shape. They said they ate more but healthier food, also had time for exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
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Don't they have enough exercise with us in the shop.
Makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by storry_teller
When they are working, the WLs have an unhealthy lifestyle. Especially the full time ones.
They spend the whole day indoors, eating unhealthy take away or skipping meals.
In between customers they just sit around and some of them smoke too.
You can be skinny but still unhealthy and unfit.
Sex with customers is not exercise and is not a workout.
Apart from a bit of cowgirl, which is good, for most of the punt they have a passive position. There is very little cardio or weight resistance.
Some of the part time girls have a healthy diet and lifestyle and work out on their days off, but the full time ones after a long shift are exhausted and just go to bed.
The MLs do get in a bit of a more of a workout though. Massaging is a pretty good, but even so it doesn't get your cardio going.
Have a ML friend who said she's going back to work today.
Go figure [emoji848]
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It's good to hear they got some time to take care of themselves a little, despite the obvious stress they would have felt from loss of income etc. I can imagine it's really not the healthiest of lifestyles. Leave home at 8.30. Stuck inside all day, home at 10.. eat take out a lot of the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by storry_teller
But RnT is a sex service?Quote:
Originally Posted by boater
Looking through available information, there are definitions of "remedial massage" but none for "therapeutic massage". So it seems confusing that undefined "therapeutic" shops have been allowed to open for a few weeks, but "remedial" shops have not.
But the risk of getting caught out is low. guess we are all willing to try. Happy punting
I don't want to come across as fear mongering. But I have seen the following information posted on social media from a couple of well known Caucasian erotic massage parlours:
"I’ve checked with some sources and it looks like they mean therapeutic massage. We will hopefully have government clarification soon. Basically if the service provider is nude and gives a hand job, that’s a brothel... am waiting for clarification, but again, there is a difference between therapeutic massage and erotic massage, and where erotic massage is provided the venue is legally considered a brothel".
...and another:
"Hi everyone... just letting you know that places that open on June 13th are actually disobeying the law! Every client and worker risks a 1000 dollar fine....please be aware of NSW guidelines! We shall see you soon...just not next week. And please stay safe happy and healthy until we see you again".
Now I know that some of the 'upmarket' Caucasian parlours are probably operating under a brothel license even though their business is erotic massage with, at most, a restricted extras policy. But it appears that they are still seeking interpretation & clarity around whether they can actually operate from 13th June or not. I've seen one particular shop advertise on their website that they do intend to open, but will also be winding back their extras policy in the current climate - https://bodyrotic.com.au/news/
What would this mean for a place like 227 Broadway where parts 1 and 2 are charged upfront? They advertise as being a 'fully licensed shop', but what exactly does that entail? Check out the messaging on their roster page - https://www.massagebroadway.com/shop-roster.html
Will it be legal to engage in a naked bodyslide and happy ending in a remedial / therapeutic shop from 13th June (or even now for licensed shops which have already been allowed to re-open)? If the shop, the service provider and client is caught engaging in such services will fines be issued?
I don't want to spoil the fun that we are currently all looking forward to one week from now, but I am starting to think that we might need to be cautious and not get too excited too soon about what exactly we're going to be allowed to do. If the Councils and Police sniff an opportunity to issue fines because people have not interpreted the regulations properly, they will !
FFS how many times has this been explained on this Forum.
Some massage shops are fully licensed brothels but they just choose to offer massage and HJ, bodyslide etc. That's their business model.
These are most of the caucasian shops eg Misty's, Bodyrotic, and a small minority of the Asian ones eg 227 Broadway, Midas, Romeo's, Juliet's Mastige8 etc.
And then you have the vast majority Asian R&T shops.
They don't have a brothel licence but just pretend to be therapeutic/remedial massage shops and offer HJ and sometimes more secretly behind the screen, curtain etc.
Technically they are therapeutic/remedial massage shops , but everyone knows what really goes on in these shops, but proving it is very difficult.
Well in the current rules here: https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what...do-under-rulesQuote:
Originally Posted by MDPorto
It says
Healthcare products and services may open including
... remedial or therapeutic massage service providers
Under personal services (so other than remedial or therapeutic massage) it says
Personal services -Closed
- Massage and tattoo parlours cannot provide services however they can open to sell products and gift vouchers. This applies to any business premises, regardless of whether it operates in a retail outlet or in a private home. Businesses must comply with the 4 square metre rule.
- Strip clubs and sex services premises are closed.
So remedial and therapeutic massage are already open
Then under changes for the 13th of June it says:
Personal services
- Tattoo and massage parlours can reopen with up to 10 clients.
Given that remdial and therapeutic are already open, and there are no stated limits on what sort of personal services massage may open on the 13th - just how many clients they can have - it is reasonable to think this included erotic massage. After all, what else could it mean? And if it did not include all forms of personal services massage you would reasonably expect them to have said so.
Note: I am not a lawyer, just reading the rules.
Personally I will wait, but it would seem to have have been in intention to allow erotic massage venues to operate.
Of course, this might get updated and the actual rules are what are declared by the chief medical officer at the time. We should probably check what they actually say come the 13th.
I also says "sex service premises are closed". Is a HE by a naked girl a "sex service"?Quote:
Originally Posted by boater
At the counter you pay for massage only.
What happens in the room is a matter for those inside it.
The service provided by the business is only massage "as far as anyone knows".
As stated a licensed premise that is upfront with the charges is a different category of service.
Common sense will prevail here.
If i go to KFC and manage to negotiate HE with my Zinger burger KFC is not then providing the service if you follow my drift.
Stay safe and have fun.
Kinda sucks for licensed massage shops. They won't be able to open because it is clear they provide sexual services because they are licensed. The massage shops that don't do the right thing, not pay for their license and employ MLs with the intent of offering sexual services are opening. Go figure.....
Buggered if I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiegaigin
We will see how the actual rules are phrased when they are gazetted on the 13th.
We don't know that for sure. Everyone is getting carried away by "massage parlours" being allowed to open, but ignoring the "sex services" restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raybo
Perhaps the RnT will become and Rn(more)R only.