agreed... honestly I don't even appreciate vag pics either.. they're quite ugly close up imo hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
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agreed... honestly I don't even appreciate vag pics either.. they're quite ugly close up imo hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
Like shell-less mussels? Mr Slipper
Can sometimes be very hard to separate the "benefits" from "emotional attachment" if the relationship lasts for too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by assasin
If you're attracted to the girl then nothing wrong going out with the ML or WL. You never know you might have lots of fun and enjoyment with the girl. Some girls want to go out and if they like what they see, they will not be too shy in asking. However, be careful in that she doesn't take you for a ride and expect that you pay for everything with nothing in return from her. In addition, there are many young girls looking for sugardaddy arrangements. Whether you want to spend considerable amounts of money on one girl is up to you but with many girls out there, it would not be a good decision in the long run.
Update guys, i ended up bailing. Reading through previous threads on this topic, i concluded it rarely ends well.. have a long term gf also and not gonna risk that.
Not at all. Didnt mention or imply that im wealthy. Was good chemistry though, she mentioned she was horny and wanted me... offered fs and didnt ask for money. After asked if wanted to go out with her
I’d say that’s a fuckin smart move. Different story if single but you have other factors at play when a long term partner is involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by assasin
The whole point of WL and ML is transactional avoidance of complications. By going on a date, especially while attached, you’re essentially giving up the biggest advantage of this whole scene. Hahaha
Benefits go both way; I think that the benefits you want from her being “free sex”, what are the benefits you can offer for her?Quote:
Originally Posted by assasin
But I would say do give it a try, it could turn out to be an enjoyable day out. Do drop your expectation for free sex, unless you are paying far more than just meals and transports. Chance is still slim even if you are paying for the price of a session or few sessions, remember she’s with you for far longer than that.
Common sense would dictate that dating a working girl would be a bad idea, once you catch feelings you lose the common sense to pull out, pun intended
But we all know the outcome to this one, hot girl asks you out. Why the fuck not
Having a gf would complicate matters if you decided to take up the ML's or WL's offer to go out. You will always get caught out in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by assasin
I have been asked by 2 WL's in my whole punting career, 1st one was Japanese wanted to date first and the 2nd one was Vietnamese and wanted to have kids with me. I dodged both these ladies for sometime, you got to be careful as these ladies go through a lot everyday, they meet so many weirdos like me on regular basis, it takes toll on them eventually if they are not strong enough mentally and sex would be the last thing on their mind after seeing dicks all day long. Know what you are getting into and always have exit strategy.
Lol this is how I know this is another bullshit seeking advice thread - how were you going to ask for advice and not mentioned that you had a girlfriend?
Like asking tips on how to ace a job interview and not mention that you have a warrant out for arrest!
An ML asked me out on a date about 3 or 4 years ago. We still meet up about once a month for lunch or a picnic/activity. She gives me massages at her home which I pay her for. We are great friends, she is good company, reasonably intelligent; I help her with her other businesses.
Despite being close there is no romance, no sex. She knows nothing about me, not even my real name. She is not pushy for contact, but is usually there when I want to see her.
Just straight massage then?Quote:
Originally Posted by aussiegaigin
Good that you can developed a read friendship with a ML, not easy at all. Tried but never worked out that way with me to be honest.
HE if I want it. Usually a bit of mutual response.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingqxxx
I have to accept what she does. I know she sometimes does private massage with other guys but I manage not to worry about what happens there.
Why would you worry? As you indicated you are just friends and Without expectationsQuote:
Originally Posted by aussiegaigin
I have been on a date with a WL in Singapore, once. Saw her twice (paid session) and she asked me out. Her looks were above average, seemed genuinely nice - so I agreed. She took me to a club - paid for my entry and bought me two drinks. Spent the night dancing (read grinding). She asked me back to her place - I declined. Never saw her again, did not want to get attached or develop any feelings.
Since then I have been asked out twice in Sydney, both by ML. Took one ML out for a drink - chatted and that was it. She was a little too candid about her life, and I realised that we have absolutely zero common interests. The other ML - I just never really responded to her request. Again, she was too chatty during the first session and offered FS in second session - that there was nothing left.
My experience might not be something to go by though, I just prefer to keep relationships at a distance with WL and ML.
Some girls might find themselves lonely here and away from their families who reside overseas. They want some intimacy and 'hugging'. I'm sure some guys would have taken up the offers even if they had no interests in the girls and the girls were not ugly. :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by omguser
I completely understand, sometimes a good ear and hug goes a long way. Being away from family is never easy, and honestly the two ML (Sydney) are above average looking (my opinion). I sympathise with them, it's not an easy business being in where you are essentially used and abused by countless punters without a care, me being guilty of doing just that.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
My comment was mostly directed at my personality and choice, rather than questioning the ML or WL. I am more than happy to listen to them, talk to them. Majority of them are very sweet girls who are victims of circumstance. I, personally, want to remain emotionally closed off.
A WL/ML only asks for a date, more specifically maybe a lunch or dinner. We automatically assume they want a relationship and be your girlfriend? Not saying we are narcissistic but most of the time, they are just lonely, plus they like you and want to spend some time not in a working room, that's it.
If a WL asks me to have a dinner, the only reason I would decline is that I don't want to have a dinner with her. A dinner is the only thing she asked for. Nothing to do with any relationship.
I whole heartedly agree. My argument for against dating is simply that I don't want to be the one that gets attached, hence why I prefer to keep them at a distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
Many don't want a relationship because it will very difficult to keep the two separate. Some guys have issues with their girl working in the sex industry where the girl is exposed to many guys who will try to lure the girl with money and other promises. Also, their WL or ML friends will try to convince her to stay out of such relationships with customers. Having said this, some ML or WL see an opportunity to go out because they don't have a car to go to the beach or don't know the city well. This is why they will be happy to meet outside for a social outing but not to be in a serious relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by holi_day
I swear you online Romeos kill me with all these self-pleasuring posts talking about denying WL’s and ML’s requests to go out on a date because you don’t want to get attached.
You expect people to think that you are okay to pay for sex at the shops and yet somehow if you’re paying for casual sex in the forms of dinner, movies etc then that becomes too “dangerous” & would somehow made you emotionally vulnerable.
How? Your goal for both scenarios is the exact same - to have sex.
In neither scenario would you think about starting a family with these girls - probably won’t even see them again after a few fucks or when you found another tail in the next punt. (Or in my case, after I nut).
Some of the posts are so stupid or just plain cringe it’s ridiculous. I swear some of you guys think you are the shit like we don’t know your lame asses keep going back to check if anyone commented and get your little ego boost lol !
how is not wanting to get attached an ego boost? if anything it's the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dettol
it would be an ego boost if they said they didn't want the WL/ML to get attached.
Not sure why Dettol getting triggered? People wanting advice for new situation is what makes you mad? Lol