Falling in love with WL 2

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23-12-2020, 05:12 PM
Niceguy11

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Originally Posted by kjarrus20

I had this exact discussion with my regular the other week. She was worried that she was going to be single forever because of her choice of profession and that she wouldn't lie to any future boyfriend about her past. I basically said to her that if any guy she is with judges her for doing what she had to do to further her life for the future, then fuck those guys. Sometimes all these girls want is reassurance that they're not stigmatized and that they deserve what everyone else deserves - a healthy, loving relationship, respect and stability. If anything, I think someone who does punt is more so in a position to not judge but it's different strokes for different folks. There are genuine souls in all walks of life, who are we to judge them?

This is perfect advice man. I agree with you 100% and it's so true. The girls deserve a healthy loving relationship.
23-12-2020, 05:34 PM
CFM001

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Totally agree with you man. It's a timely reminder to not get too involved with WL's which is what I'm strongly trying to avoid at the moment and just keep to being friends with my regular.

No feelings of love or anything but more of caring for a friend if that makes sense.

Better not to get too involved with an WL. But if it happens I think you have to be prepared to get burnt. It's not too different to dating a normal girl, things just never work out sometimes. But you have to go into it knowing all the pros and the cons. And most importantly, enjoy the whole process.
23-12-2020, 11:47 PM
DireStraits

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Originally Posted by dang4d

Just beware that in declining to accept the return of gift, you might give her an impression that you are still waiting for her and she will think you as an reserve BF.

Was just about to say that unless $2k is small change for, er, small (the OP), declining to accept the return of the gift just might mean that at some level, he hopes she will see what a nice guy he is and come back to him eventually, or at the very least make her think she should have gone with him instead of the other (married) guy...
24-12-2020, 07:07 AM
Carissawhore

In my experience WL's think different, they do not consider having sex with multiple guys as cheating even though they have BF/husband/partner, I have met lots of WL's who are in serious relationship but once in a while pop into brothels to fulfill their fantasies or to get away from their reality as they miss having sex with multiple guys, most of them do it to make some extra money to buy either LV/Gucci/Prada crap and some do it because they like being WL once in a while.
If you are single it is easy to fall in love with WL's or ML's as they give you intimate sensual feeling and you would fantasise being with them once you are back home.
Learn to master on and off switch between your life and punting life or you will always end up breaking you heart.
24-12-2020, 07:29 AM
DirtyLurker

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Originally Posted by Carissawhore

Learn to master on and off switch between your life and punting life or you will always end up breaking you heart.

That’s exactly what’s needed
24-12-2020, 08:27 AM
Jamez11

It seems like the guys who fall in love with Wl's are the perpetual nice guys with zero back bone and useless at setting boundaries.

For the OP maybe you should ask for the $2000 neck lace that I'm assuming you worked hard for and in no way does she deserve just because she put on some lacey nickers and allowed you to pay for her dinners.

A girl who does what she does for a living, leads you on, in a relationship with a married man with a young daughter is not the type of girl any "man would be lucky to have," she is the exact type of girl every man should avoid.

I'm not trying to put you down or belittle you, maybe you should read the book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover or something.
24-12-2020, 10:09 AM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by small

Hi all, just wanted to share a personal experience. I’ve been punting on and off for few years now. Couple months ago I saw a WL and after seeing her 4-5 times I felt we had some chemistry. At the last session she tells me she will quit this industry (she’s been working for around a year) and asked me if I wanted to visit her at her place to help her with her rent, I agreed and we exchanged contact.

Visiting her at her place turns out to be a much better experience than in the shop. She lives in a studio by herself and she would set the mood with candles and dressed in sexy lingerie waiting for my arrival. Sex is good and then we would cuddle and chat. I pay her twice I pay when I visit the shop. And then we would clean up and head out for dinner and drinks.
Spending time with her was great and I think we really got along. We did this for couple Friday nights and then one Friday afternoon she texted me saying she can’t have sex with me tonight but if I still would like to meet up with her and I said sure, I have developed feelings for her and it’s not only about the sex anymore. So we went out to dinner and everything was going well and I give her a Christmas present (Tiffany Necklace cost just under 2K), as usual we were having a good time and then she suddenly tells me she is also seeing someone else, another customer, and it’s like a competition for her. I was taken a back because I was not expecting that, how foolish of me. I not used to competing for the same girl with another person. Anyways the night ended well with many kisses and hugs. The next Monday she texted me wanting to see me, that’s pleasant surprise for me but in the back of my mind I felt there’s a chance that something was up. So after work I go meet her at her place and we went to a restaurant near by. After a couple drinks she opens her hand bag and takes out the Tiffany box I gave her on Friday, that was the moment I feared and there’s no mystery what’s coming next, She tells me she’s been seeing some other guy for six months now and she has caught him lying to her about many things, but since knowing that she might want to start seeing me exclusively, he has decided to fully commit to her now and start a family with her very soon, and that’s more than I can promise and commit to her at the moment (even though I am single and living along, I don’t feel I know her long enough to promise her that) so during dinner I pretty much didn’t eat anything but kept on drinking. After dinner we went for a walk in a park and more long passionate kissing, and then at her door steps I wish her well and hope she finds what she is looking for and I’m sad I’m not her first choice. She then tells me the other guy is currently married with young daughter living together but he has since promised her he will divorce her and be with her. So there’s my story falling for a WL but I would do it again but maybe try keeping my feeling aside so I wouldn’t feel so sad.

You weren't dating her . So no loss to you. you got more than you pay for. You got to fuck her in her place then went out for dinners walks . If this was an escort it would cost you thousands. She never lead you on. it's was you who decided to buy her the necklace. Then she did the right thing by telling you that she was actually dating another Guy 6 month already. She didn't like him because he lies. She wanted a family but you're not up for it.
24-12-2020, 10:11 AM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by doctorspock

Can you tell us her name and where she worked, a lot of us might also be her private clients, not just the two of you🤔

Hold on is she hot? And what nationality is her. I think she's thai.
24-12-2020, 10:16 AM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by Jamez11

It seems like the guys who fall in love with Wl's are the perpetual nice guys with zero back bone and useless at setting boundaries.

For the OP maybe you should ask for the $2000 neck lace that I'm assuming you worked hard for and in no way does she deserve just because she put on some lacey nickers and allowed you to pay for her dinners.

A girl who does what she does for a living, leads you on, in a relationship with a married man with a young daughter is not the type of girl any "man would be lucky to have," she is the exact type of girl every man should avoid.

I'm not trying to put you down or belittle you, maybe you should read the book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover or something.

didn't your book tells you that this happens with normal girls as well, especially with the hot pretty girls because they got lots of options. Stick with the girls that nobody wants then I'm sure you can have it all to yourself.
Anything good in life is always hard to get.
24-12-2020, 10:46 AM
Jamez11

I personally haven't read it as I don't need to, but have heard it is a good read and may be helpful assuming he wants help which he probably doesn't.

The book is not really the point of my post anyway, he could read tea leaves for all I care.
24-12-2020, 11:47 AM
CFM001

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Originally Posted by goodbloke

didn't your book tells you that this happens with normal girls as well, especially with the hot pretty girls because they got lots of options. Stick with the girls that nobody wants then I'm sure you can have it all to yourself.
Anything good in life is always hard to get.

Hot pretty girls do normally have more options, but they're not anymore open and approachable as others.
24-12-2020, 12:05 PM
exstar

Hey @small

Thanks for sharing your story and I too have been a similar position, however I would have been the one leaving the family for the girl. It did not go ahead because once you realise the financial, emotional and social realities of a divorce then you start to question if it is really worth it. Especially when kids are involved! I would daresay this will happen with the other man your girl has chosen. Divorces are not that easy.

Just like us punters, these girls can also have their judgement clouded by this world and she’s become sucked in by the prospect of stability and very likely visa options. Not sure if you’ve ever had those type of discussions with your girl.

I’d say you certainly have dodged a bullet here

Ps I’m glad to hear more stories coming out and I will share mine eventually, just never have for fear of getting flamed, it’s not something that we can easily discuss with family or friends ‘on the outside’ so its great that we can all support each other here.
24-12-2020, 12:18 PM
Niceguy11

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Originally Posted by CFM001

Better not to get too involved with an WL. But if it happens I think you have to be prepared to get burnt. It's not too different to dating a normal girl, things just never work out sometimes. But you have to go into it knowing all the pros and the cons. And most importantly, enjoy the whole process.

Yeah man I am hearing you. Currently I am on the border of a relationship or just being friends. I think in the best interest of myself, its best to remain friends. I mean sure there is always that option to get into a relationship but after the past few days of reading and getting to know her, I think its just way better to be friends. There is no connection in terms of love but being friends is awesome ! We actually act like friends when we hangout and doing stupid shit like laugh at each others jokes and give ourselves high 5's when we are talking, all that friendship type of stuff.

Deep down, I don't think I am even prepared to have a girlfriend. I would like to have a girlfriend, but I have come to the realisation of what you said CFM001 and have taken all of your advice on board. I am involved with my regular but not to much if that makes sense.
24-12-2020, 12:49 PM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Yeah man I am hearing you. Currently I am on the border of a relationship or just being friends. I think in the best interest of myself, its best to remain friends. I mean sure there is always that option to get into a relationship but after the past few days of reading and getting to know her, I think its just way better to be friends. There is no connection in terms of love but being friends is awesome ! We actually act like friends when we hangout and doing stupid shit like laugh at each others jokes and give ourselves high 5's when we are talking, all that friendship type of stuff.

Deep down, I don't think I am even prepared to have a girlfriend. I would like to have a girlfriend, but I have come to the realisation of what you said CFM001 and have taken all of your advice on board. I am involved with my regular but not to much if that makes sense.

lol you can be friend with your WL because you don't have any feeling for her. I can't see you want to be friends with the one that you having feelings for.
24-12-2020, 01:52 PM
cuteguy

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Originally Posted by Jamez11

It seems like the guys who fall in love with Wl's are the perpetual nice guys with zero back bone and useless at setting boundaries.

For the OP maybe you should ask for the $2000 neck lace that I'm assuming you worked hard for and in no way does she deserve just because she put on some lacey nickers and allowed you to pay for her dinners.

A girl who does what she does for a living, leads you on, in a relationship with a married man with a young daughter is not the type of girl any "man would be lucky to have," she is the exact type of girl every man should avoid.

I'm not trying to put you down or belittle you, maybe you should read the book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover or something.

Totally agree. If she was only with you then let her keep the necklace if she decided to move on. However, she had another guy and you both at the same time and basically, she was weighing up her options as to who would deliver more. When she was not committed to you then such girl should be avoided for any relationships. You should have taken the necklace back when she agreed to return it.
24-12-2020, 02:09 PM
DireStraits

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Originally Posted by cuteguy

Totally agree. If she was only with you then let her keep the necklace if she decided to move on. However, she had another guy and you both at the same time and basically, she was weighing up her options as to who would deliver more. When she was not committed to you then such girl should be avoided for any relationships. You should have taken the necklace back when she agreed to return it.

Completely agree... but can also understand small's reluctance to take it back. Seems somewhat ungentlemanly to do so. But it's an expensive way of signalling "I'm a better person than you". Sometimes you just want to drive that point home, no matter the cost.
24-12-2020, 03:20 PM
CFM001

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Yeah man I am hearing you. Currently I am on the border of a relationship or just being friends. I think in the best interest of myself, its best to remain friends. I mean sure there is always that option to get into a relationship but after the past few days of reading and getting to know her, I think its just way better to be friends. There is no connection in terms of love but being friends is awesome ! We actually act like friends when we hangout and doing stupid shit like laugh at each others jokes and give ourselves high 5's when we are talking, all that friendship type of stuff.

Deep down, I don't think I am even prepared to have a girlfriend. I would like to have a girlfriend, but I have come to the realisation of what you said CFM001 and have taken all of your advice on board. I am involved with my regular but not to much if that makes sense.

I'm really glad you thought about it and made a decision. It can be really hard to draw the line between friends and a more involved relationship. You should be aware that with time, either you or her may want something more. If that happens, it's either you both become serious or it's bye bye. I think it's really hard to just remain friends if there are feelings involved. Not that it's impossible though....
24-12-2020, 06:21 PM
Niceguy11

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Originally Posted by CFM001

I'm really glad you thought about it and made a decision. It can be really hard to draw the line between friends and a more involved relationship. You should be aware that with time, either you or her may want something more. If that happens, it's either you both become serious or it's bye bye. I think it's really hard to just remain friends if there are feelings involved. Not that it's impossible though....

Thanks man. She has told me numerous times that we have no chance at all of getting into a relationship which is cool however, the other night when we went back to her place to hangout, it did get personal. Not so much about feelings but while she was sleeping and I was laying on the bed, I just got thinking to myself "what do I really want in life". I wasn't falling in love with her despite it feeling like a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, I was just chilling on the bed while she was sleeping if you know what I mean.

But yeah CFM 001, going back to what you said, I have taken everything on board.

Yeah the reason she said no chance of a relationship because she wants to meet someone outside of the shop which Is totally fine no problems.
24-12-2020, 07:46 PM
liminal

I’m a cynic ... I think another before posted on this or, another rote thread of similar vanity .. too paraphrase

....If it’s a love feel you got going why post here?

Btw the OP’s narrative a bit odd , he says he sees her out of work at hone but then states how they have sex in the shop and then go out so he pays twice

Irrespective the prose constructed much better than most

It’s Xmas eve and I’m in a mood for believing in make believe
24-12-2020, 08:26 PM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by cuteguy

Totally agree. If she was only with you then let her keep the necklace if she decided to move on. However, she had another guy and you both at the same time and basically, she was weighing up her options as to who would deliver more. When she was not committed to you then such girl should be avoided for any relationships. You should have taken the necklace back when she agreed to return it.

No She was never with James11 in the first place .Jame11 justed wanted sex outside the shop . The WL was seeing another guy for 6 six months but the Wl didn't trust the other guy. . Since James11 came along she was considering him as an option . But the Other Guy say he'll marry her . This is what she wanted .But james are into marrying her so she decided to give the other guy another go .
24-12-2020, 08:29 PM
goodbloke

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Thanks man. She has told me numerous times that we have no chance at all of getting into a relationship which is cool however, the other night when we went back to her place to hangout, it did get personal. Not so much about feelings but while she was sleeping and I was laying on the bed, I just got thinking to myself "what do I really want in life". I wasn't falling in love with her despite it feeling like a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, I was just chilling on the bed while she was sleeping if you know what I mean.

But yeah CFM 001, going back to what you said, I have taken everything on board.

Yeah the reason she said no chance of a relationship because she wants to meet someone outside of the shop which Is totally fine no problems.

BS she wasn't into you that why she say shit like she wants to meet someone outside of the shop . If she was into you nothing is a problem. If she wasn't into you then everything is a problem .
24-12-2020, 08:53 PM
LookingForTheOne

I have dated a few Massage Girls now and I take each day as it comes.. The reason a ML normally wants to find someone in the outside world is basically a fresh start.. The new person has no idea that that they had a secret life.
24-12-2020, 09:30 PM
CFM001

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Thanks man. She has told me numerous times that we have no chance at all of getting into a relationship which is cool however, the other night when we went back to her place to hangout, it did get personal. Not so much about feelings but while she was sleeping and I was laying on the bed, I just got thinking to myself "what do I really want in life". I wasn't falling in love with her despite it feeling like a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, I was just chilling on the bed while she was sleeping if you know what I mean.

But yeah CFM 001, going back to what you said, I have taken everything on board.

Yeah the reason she said no chance of a relationship because she wants to meet someone outside of the shop which Is totally fine no problems.

Hope it all works out for you. Will be interested to hear how it pans out. Keep me posted if it's not too much trouble for you.
24-12-2020, 11:28 PM
Niceguy11

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Originally Posted by CFM001

Hope it all works out for you. Will be interested to hear how it pans out. Keep me posted if it's not too much trouble for you.

No worries bro. I'll keep you posted for sure.
24-12-2020, 11:59 PM
CFM001

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

No worries bro. I'll keep you posted for sure.

Thanks brother (y)

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