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Well done Mongolian Khan !Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Winner !
Very happy day !
Now all I need is Criterion to win the Cox Plate! Save on Fawkner!
Then it's Preferment for the Cup, though I won't complaint if Mongolian Khan gets the double or Fame Game wins it !
Cheers
Finally it's raining in Melbourne, so the track at Mooney Valley should be softer than rock hard Caulfield!
Criterion, Fawkner, Happy Trail, The Cleaner should be prominent to hold off the overseas invasions !!
Can any informed brother explain this:
Mongolian Khan is currently $6.00 on the TAB fixed odds for the Cup, but Sportsbet is betting $11.00, do they know something we don't ?
Cox Plate Day at Mooney Valley !!
Sticking with Criterion, he clearly is the best local WFA horse.
Again, the internationals are looking very dangerous, if they race up to their best form and potential, the Plate could be heading overseas second year in a row.
Still, Criterion is the horse they all have to beat:
My selections:
1. Criterion
12. Preferment
13. Highland Reel
8. Arod
10. Gallo Chop
3. Happy Trails
9. Complacent
Good luck
Cheers
:smile:
Winx is too good, another Sunline !
Winx way too strong..Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Lucky i did not bet that race.
Odds not juicy anyway.
Quinea pay poor.
Some people must invest so heavily there.
I got my money back with Criterion each way. Then last minute at the Club put on a trifecta with 1, 13, 14 first two and the field and it paid peanuts , first three favourite home 1,2,3 ! I think most people would have won something or money back !Quote:
Originally Posted by Travelmate
One thing for sure, you will never get $4.00+ on Winx ever again ! With the European forms behind her, she can be a world beater if Waller takes her to Hong Kong or Royal Ascot !
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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Very bad luck !
Mongolian Khan now out of the Cup due to colic attack, whatever that is !!
My MK Cups double @$88.00 to 1 now gooooooone !! Damn !! :burn:
Either Fame Game and Preferment better win it now !!
I repeated said i am not big race fan.
Should bet gsw okc double for nba next game
More promising
No way on earth Fame Game will win! Don't waste your money Bro AQuote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
I had quite a few cups double running, best result would have been a MK double, but MK / Fame Game or MK / Preferment would still win me over a grand each ticket !Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
I am going to stick with David Hayes on Derby Day !
Clippers looking very good today nba
Anyone have any tips for the Melbourne Cup tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by aussie_guy
Of course, still waiting for the track conditions before finalise, it has been raining in Melbourne, just need to see if the track on Tuesday will be still firm or a Soft (6 or 7)
Cheers
my 1st 4/trifecta is fame game , preferment, almoonqith, excess knowledge and on another ticket ive added hokko brave, who shot the barman, grand marshall and max dynamite for a smaller percentage. preferment to win
Preferment is one of the best local, Hills Stakes and Turnbull win was excellent, love Flemington, VRC Derby winner last year. By Zabeel who had already produced three Cup Winners ! With Hugh Bowman and Chris Waller, they are on Fire! If he wins tomorrow , I'll collect $2,000 + .Quote:
Originally Posted by carmen farquis
Happy to just sit back and watch and no bet on Trifecta ........haha, only kidding !
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Originally Posted by carmen farquis
Just on Almoonqith , he is also a must have in all the multis:
He is by the same sire as Americain, he also came through the Geelong Cup. His grand Sire is Roberto, who had already produced a Cup winner in At Talaq, wearing the same colour and trained my David Hayes father the late Colin Hayes ! Top three chances !
just rediscovered this, i remember last years tips were on point!!!
OK, this is it, the Melbourne Cup of 2015 !
A very open field with lots of chances. Once again, the oversea horses have accounted for half of the field, and this is Not counting horses that were from overseas but now trained by local trainers.
You can pick half a dozen horses and could still miss the winner and it probably won't surprise as nearly half the field have genuine to reasonable chances of winning or running into the placings.
So, where do we start ?
Firstly, out of all the oversea trained horses who have been successful since Vintage Crop in 93, there is a very significant common factor: they have all had a run in Australia and run well:
Media Puzzle won the Geelong Cup
Delta Blues ran 3rd in the Caulfield Cup
Americain won the Geelong Cup
Dunaden won the Geelong Cup
Protectionist had a big run in the Herbert Power
So, for this winning formula:
We have to pick Trip to Paris and Fame Game - they are now the top two favourites
Then you have the locally trained horses who have top WFA forms and they came through the Cox Plate
Jeune, Saintly, Makybe Diva, Efficient, Green Moon, Fiorente
So we add Criterion and Preferment
Then one of my personal selection criteria (an omen !)
The horses that had run well or placed in previous Cups:
The good old Red Cadeaux and Who Shot Thebarman
Now, all these horses are pretty much in the market, so we shall look for some values for the Trifecta
For this I will look at the bottom half of field for some light weight hopes:
I have picked Bondi Beach (no sentimental reason, but if Lloyd Williams had bought a major shares into this horse, he must know something we don't), this is a 4 year old in the Northern hemisphere but he is still a 3 yr old in our time, think about another 4 yr old called Adelaide who came here last year and won the Cox Plate !
And The United States, he ran a track record to win the Mooney Valley Gold Cup and has the same sire as Bondi Beach in Galileo - a noted sire of stayers. and same ownership too !!
It hurts to exclude horses like Our Ivanhowe, Hartnell, Max Dynamite, The Offer and Excess Knowledge and a few other European horses, but you simply can't tip them all, so we will need some luck and hopefully these eight horses are good enough to fight off the others :
So, Ahlungor Melbourne Cup Tips for 2015:
2 Criterion $16.20
3 Fame Game $7.00
9 Red Cadeaux $19.50
10 Trip to Paris $5.90
11 Who Shot Thebarman $15.30
15 Preferment $8.90
17 Almoonqith $22.70
20 Bondi Beach $25.00
22 The United States $28.00
Good luck to us all.
Cheers
ps. I wish I win some money so that I could try the Nuru Massage - or I can stop now and Not bet any trifecta and I can punt any where I like - Not a chance !!..............haha
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ps 2, I went back and included Almoonqith ! I have to tip 9 horses this time, it will cost $504.00 for 1 unit to box or $252 for half unit.
ahlungor, if u had to cut it to 8 horses, would 17 be the unlucky one?
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Originally Posted by xxxoxo
If you must cut it down to 8, take out no.2 Criterion !! and keep 17.
Criterion is probably the best horse in Australia until Winx blowed the Cox Plate field off the water - no doubt about his class but there is a slight query on whether he can stay the 3,200 metre.
But Almoonqith is a dead set stayer, he has the same sire as Americain and their grand sire is Roberto who had also sired a Cup winner in At Talaq, and on Almoonqith's dam side, there are full of staying blue bloods: Mr Prospector, Blushing Groom, Nijinski, Seatle Slew, etc. I will be most surprised if he can't stay the two miles. So yes, prefer Almoonqith to Criterion !!
Cheers
hmm, good points, thx brother!
There is another omen, 17 people were viewing this thread just now !! :cool2:Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxoxo
What happened lol. I'm glad I didn't put anything on the cup this year.
Very tragic but last year the horse (Admire Rakti) I bet on had a heart attack.
Well, what can you do when a 100-1 chance wins the Cup !!
All credit to Michelle Payne, history in the making for a lady jockey to win the Cup.
At least now we know Criterion can actually stay the two miles !! :smile: