Hahah, I like that last part. First one up against a grumpy girl is no joke!
Wow I honestly didn't expect so many responses and I walk away with additional confidence in standing firm about not handing over my money too early. (Although I wonder how it would be received if I say I am not paying until my girl is ready at a brothel... an example where I don't think it will go down well is like a ATMC or Liaisons where I'm pretty sure the norm is to pay before you see the girls)
Sadly this seems to be a problem that is more common than I realised and I hope we as punters take the advice here to start holding these shops more accountable.
I would confidently say they take your money first because your more inclined to take whatever is available even though they might not be to your usual standard. Like hell, if Ive made the effort and made the trip there, something has to go terribly wrong for me to back out. Lol
Can only speak from ML shop perspective but learnt fast. Once told to wait 20 mins for booking with ML (3rd visit) decided to walk and booked unseen ML via Wechat but caught in traffic & hard to find parking. All rushed & late turned into dud punt. Now generally accept delay within 15 min which fortunately dont happen too often with my regular tried and tested shops.
With anybody and anything, be firm but not abusive about your dissatisfaction.
If you're too nice about, ppl will continually abuse you.
I had a 2 hr booking. Mammasan called and said the girl will be 15mins late. I asked why, she said he came late 15 mins. I told her to cancel my booking as she shouldve made his booking 45 mins
When the girl found out i cancelled and i told her why, she went off at the mammasan and she had lost an hour.
At another shop , i was late 10mins for my booking, she made me do a 45 min session instead of the hour coz it was my fault. I accepted that
What about wechat responses? How long do you guys wait for a response from the shop after you have messaged them before you say something like:
"Hello again I think you missed my message" or "Haha is the shop busy tonight"
For me, zero wait.
15 minutes before my booking time, I always text the shop to ask if [name of girl] is good to start at the agreed time.
90% of cases reception says either “yes” or “they are ready now”. Great.
In the other 10% of cases when my booking is late, I don’t care what the reason is. I request another girl.
Most times they can offer another suitable girl who can start on time. On the rare occasion they can’t offer another suitable girl, I say I won’t be in today.
At this stage of the negotiation, you need to be prepared to walk.
Most of us are time poor, need to plan our sessions carefully, and are way too proud to sit in a cubicle or behind a curtain for 40 minutes with our cock in our hand paying for someone else’s mistake.
Fuck that.
Funny you say you msg before your booking. This isn't something I normally do but it saved me a 30 minute trip as I booked a girl early in the day eg. 10am for an after work session.
They confirmed my booking but later in the day I had this gut feeling something was wrong as she was no longer appearing on the Wechat roster, but was still on the AUS99 roster that was being updated.... so to be safe I msged to "double check" my booking before heading out.
Got a "sorry she is sick today" response.
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No more than 15 mins. Plenty of other shops to visit if have to wait too long especially if in city with plenty of options.
15 minutes max for me as I'm normally against the clock, but by the 10 minute mark I normally know if it will be happening or not. Have walked away before and will probably walk away again in the future
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15-20 mins, depending if I know the Mamasan or the girl... For a new place i definitely think waiting 15 mins is a bit too much
Often it also comes down to how the receptionist handle the situation. One time I was asking about a WL on wechat, the receptionist said come take a look first. I knew something was off at that point, but still showed up because I'm dumbass. Could've believe my eyes when I walked in, fucking literally 3 groups guys were waiting, with 4 guys in every group. I ask the receptionist right away, like wtf, why did you ask me to come when there's no room. She just sheepishly smiled and said it's very fast. Like umm fuck no. I walked out right away, complete disrespect of customers time.
However, recently I went to the shop again. A different receptionist answered my msg. I booked the time, showed up, and again there were at least 7 people waiting. Since it was a different receptionist, he told me don't worry about the other guys, since I had already book with him, he saved a room for my time slot.
So there you, same shop, but 2 different outcomes with 2 different people handling the business.
The longest I have waited is 2 hours, no bullshit. The shop was busy and this was a Friday night so understandably, the shop was busy. During that time, I was hanging out with the boss and having a drink. We got chatting about stuff and the 2 hours flew. Before I knew it, my regular was available and in I went. It was my fault because I rocked up to the shop with no booking.
10 is no problem, 20 mins is okayish , 30 mins is a firm but polite "what's going on boss??" but from reading some punter opinions here, y'all acting like entitled queens.
Girls are entertaining you for the hour, after each hour she gets another guy, which this happens for quite a few hours in a row, jesus I mean the girl probably has to have shit at some point during the day and she ain't going to do it infront of you or cut your time short to snap one off, hence why she's late for your booking every now and then
Couldn't give a concern, wait walk .. isn't that part of a punt.... myself
I understand that "shit happens" (pun intended), for either party. But time is money, for both parties. I understand her time is valuable, so I do my utmost to arrive 5-10 minutes early just so I AM there. In a number of cases, I'll send her a personal message that I'm en-route (and some have sent me reminders, no doubt due to my age). But my time is also valuable and with limited windows, I do have alternate targets. If she's a regular, she has more leeway, but then, if she's a regular, she KNOWS (personal direct contact) I've booked her, so she'll do her best to meet OUR schedule. If she's an unknown, less leeway and I'm more likely to bail after 15-20. Then it's a win-win; she gets a respite and I'm on my way to an alternate oasis.
Communication is key. If she lets me know she's running late, I can alter my schedule if possible (or let her know I can't). Same for the shop. If the shop lets me know what's going on, OK. But when you're just left sitting in a room, hanging, that's disrespectful.
Personally, I've experienced everything from
- "Sorry, I'm sick so will not be working today" (even as I was en-route, but very much acceptable)
- "Please delay your arrival by 15 minutes due to the previous customer arriving late" (no problem)
- "Go ahead and shower, she'll be ready in 10 minutes". After a shower and 20 minutes, I asked where she was. "She said she's on her way but she's not here yet. I've tried, but she's not answering her phone". Bail, but I wished the shop would have been more up front initially.
- At the front desk, "Sorry, this is her first day, she's not here and she'd not answering our calls." Bail (and she never showed up for work).
very well said! there are times when things are out of control, for example train/bus cancellation, bad traffic etc... I don't have a problem to wait if I am informed in advance. However, I know there are certain shops that they intentionally accept overlapping bookings, mostly because of greed, and they make you wait, I consider this as a disrespectful act.
When I visit shops, I want to see a ML/WL, not being locked in the room looking at the wall.