J Miru - fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

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Originally Posted by mn69

Its the new generation. The Gen Z social media generation who think they're hot because they post up heavily filtered fake make-up photos of themselves

And also alot more desperate for money post Covid

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Yeah I guess that's where some girls' princess syndrome come from, in real life, no so good looking

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Originally Posted by mn69

Thanks for AR bro. Wow thats the worst. What the hells happening!!! Japanese girls are usually known for good service.

So many girls now are money hungry.

This is seriously worse than a Chinese girl's service

Doesn't she know she will make more money if she establishes a regular customer base.

No business or financial intelligence. Thats why she ain't making any money

Ginza would fire these sorts of girls straight away

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probly explains why she was NOT at ginza in her return stint

a girl of her calibre in looking and body to get passed up by ginza if shes worked thre before? something doesnt add up....

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Originally Posted by Costy

That’s a terrible experience for sure, everyone’s worst fear when going for a punt. Not a good advertisement for the shop. After reading that they should be scrambling to make things right. But from what I’ve read about them, probably not.

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almost as bad as those comments back then of girls at a popular city massage shop that were forced to provide such extras which i think lead to something nasty going around so bad

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Originally Posted by xxxdindin

Sadly (and you're right), Not.

Short term, I got hit.

Long term, market will give the shop corrections.

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hahahaha bro shes getting moved lower and lower like division 1 of EPL then div 2 then 3 LOL

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Originally Posted by High69

That's terrible! Than drained your wallet, and I haven't seen any positive reviews. I wonder if the issue lies with the worker or the management

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Originally Posted by Sexybee

Taking my story as an example, Ramu at Ginza was so good, 9 out of 10. I booked her N5M, 7 out of 10 even though she knew me, 4 out of 10 at Kyoto 206. I said to myself I was shamed for myself, why did I book her again and again.


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Both the girls and management -- just do q quick filter by shop name in this AR thread and filter by shop name in the general thread (funny that it comes under "Complain" and you will notice a trend)

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Originally Posted by mn69

I've constantly noticed when a girl moves from Ginza, her service levels drop significantly. Then continues to drop more as she moves to other shops

Seen J Ramu as well by the way. Her service levels weren't "S or A" Tier level to start off with anyway.

So bottom line, when a girl moves from Ginza, proceed with caution.

There are exceptions though. I mean, girls like K Hanna still maintained her high level of service even though she moved.

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So bottom line, when a girl moves from Ginza, proceed with caution. - very true

there are exceptions with K Hanna where it was all the same

But then there was K Emma who moved from ginza empire to no5 similar service but price went up LOL

there was J Natsumi too before she took some services away was maybe B-C tier tops at ginza very meh but good value i think for $280 but when she moved she was like the best ever there but she wouldnt even make B Tier service at ginza let alone A Tier

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Originally Posted by Meng

The fact that she's still on roster means they don't give a fuck and the girls can pick up on it too. If the shop don't give a fuck then the girls won't give a fuck.

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very very well said brother Meng

If the shops dont give a fuck i guess we as punters only thing we can do is just keep sharing the intel and help others avoid such girls...!

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Originally Posted by secret0

I only started punting last month, but I've been reading the forum for about 4 years now, and seeing stuff like this is why I decided to only visit Ginza (and might chance N5M/42G).
Other shops just don't seem to care at all, and probably because there aren't enough complaints and no direct consequences as they've stayed in business this whole time. I check 206/57's roster every now and then, but they come up a lot in the shitty service stories for both shop and girls.

Like with other stuff these days (gaming, eating out, etc), customers can only make a difference if they vote (or walk) with their wallets, and just not spend at the known shitty places if they're not going to provide good or even a basic level of service.

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Alot of this also comes down to both not enough intel and honest shit punts being shared and also too much overhype from some ARs

Its like you say food and new pop up events or food carts being overhyped by influencers with the filters and angles and shit to boost the shop on social media...

u go there and ur like WTF is this?!??

was having some KBBQ with some mates after some pints and saw a group of young girls doing filming and shit they full got out these props, fancy lighting and mirrors and stuff to film this short film (not really short 20mins and they were still going at it)

we look at each other and just laughed.... u can film all you want but the pro's know this shop is not the same level as Borgna or 789.

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Originally Posted by Rub101

So the shop disrespected your time by making you wait 1.5hrs. Then the girl disrespected you by continuously pushing for tips. You didn't walk but at least you recognised not to return after this type of service

I've been to both sakura and kyoto once each, both were good sessions but nothing to write home about. Im lucky to not have a complete dud there considering reviews like this one. The only thing they have on ginza is better rooms. But really who cares about the room

Lol even in jacks review he said this girl loves money.. no doubt she was aggressively pushing tips at ginza too

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OP Can Confirm but i dont think he waited 1.5 hours bro

"Booked 12pm, 've been told the girl changed to 1pm, ok changed my booking to 1pm. Walked in at 1pm, 've been told girl was not ready, ok waited again. Another 30mins waiting, the girl finally ready."

sounds like he booked for 12pm but was told the girl changed to 1pm and when he arrived at 1pm for his booked was told to waiting another 30mins so counting from when he arrived he waited 30mins?

She probs slept in or something cos the roster showed her as starting at 12pm

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Originally Posted by xxxdindin

Which Blackpink girl to think of (when you endured) you need to tell me!! LOL

PTSD part make me laugh too :)

I probably use "minefield" instead of "lucky dip" in some shops, I mean you wouldn't get unlucky with "lucky dip" stuff, but really "minefield" is more appropriate to describe how I feel to walk into some shops, cos that cause damage.

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Jennie or Jisoo think of their face during doggy and just touch her smooth body and soft boobs hahahaha and go yea cmon Jennie hahahah

she did have a good body i will give her that but limitations on too many things and KPS and just things feeling rushed was not very enjoyable i cant recall if i too did 30mins so thought she was rushing cos she is not used to 30mins and still being able to tick off all diamond services but sounds like she is just JPS

hahaha landmine well the lucky dip is your with a hot girl but cant really touch too much and cant fuck too much ie JPS but she is really pretty and white smooth skin but 320 for JPS not worth it!!

I always say - somethimes i pretty slighty less pretty or beautiful girl but top service and no JPS

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Originally Posted by Meng

Holy crap thanks for this info. I feel like there's a dip in quality Japanese girls post covid.

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The thread and community definitely needs more honest ARs

It will defs help those that go in less often and also newbies that just joined

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Originally Posted by xxxdindin

No worries mate. Sharing is caring.

I like your reports in early days back at 42g, cos that's when I punted at 42g too

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yea the good ol 42G was pretty good but its glory days ..... in fact that place and 5 star wollomoloo was where i started before i discovered ginza

had too many regret punts out in the west so stuck to 42G and 5 star being close to the city then i found this forum and was like hmmmm what is this Ginza thing ppl talk about LOL

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

Jennie or Jisoo think of their face during doggy and just touch her smooth body and soft boobs hahahaha and go yea cmon Jennie hahahah

she did have a good body i will give her that but limitations on too many things and KPS and just things feeling rushed was not very enjoyable i cant recall if i too did 30mins so thought she was rushing cos she is not used to 30mins and still being able to tick off all diamond services but sounds like she is just JPS

hahaha landmine well the lucky dip is your with a hot girl but cant really touch too much and cant fuck too much ie JPS but she is really pretty and white smooth skin but 320 for JPS not worth it!!

I always say - somethimes i pretty slighty less pretty or beautiful girl but top service and no JPS

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Why not Lisa bro hahaha, Jisoo and Lisa would do for me, I feel Jennie a little KPS and b**th face lol just kidding

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

OP Can Confirm but i dont think he waited 1.5 hours bro

"Booked 12pm, 've been told the girl changed to 1pm, ok changed my booking to 1pm. Walked in at 1pm, 've been told girl was not ready, ok waited again. Another 30mins waiting, the girl finally ready."

sounds like he booked for 12pm but was told the girl changed to 1pm and when he arrived at 1pm for his booked was told to waiting another 30mins so counting from when he arrived he waited 30mins?

She probs slept in or something cos the roster showed her as starting at 12pm

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Jack is correct about the time.

206 sent me a notice at 10am, that girl changed time from 12pm to 1pm. I walked in at 1pm, been told J miru needed the lube and won't work without lube (yeah same old sensitive pussy stuff), so I waited 30mins after I walked in.

Cliff notes I got from reading this thread:
Ginza is John West
Kyoto/Sakua is John West rejects

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Originally Posted by Sexybee

Taking my story as an example, Ramu at Ginza was so good, 9 out of 10. I booked her N5M, 7 out of 10 even though she knew me, 4 out of 10 at Kyoto 206. I said to myself I was shamed for myself, why did I book her again and again.


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Bahahahaahaha the depreciation affect like a car just kept dropping and dropping LOL

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Originally Posted by xxxdindin

Why not Lisa bro hahaha, Jisoo and Lisa would do for me, I feel Jennie a little KPS and b**th face lol just kidding

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Jisoo is the winner for visuals

Jennie for looks and her personality - more cute and kawaii type (need to watch her weverse updates with fans and her appearances on reality Tv) but yes on insta and most of her ads she comes across bitchy with RBF LOL

Lisa i dont like the Spanish/Filo look and shes too dolled up IMO vs the other girls (personal preference)

I like lighter skin girls hence not a fan Spanish/Filo girls, some Indo girls and girls from Okinawa ....

Thats why J/S Meg was a one and done for me just the novelty to fuck a Lisa from Blackpink lookalike

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Originally Posted by dt333

Cliff notes I got from reading this thread:
Ginza is John West
Kyoto/Sakua is John West rejects

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Do the basic stuff right and the customers will come/know whats up

Ginza is like McNuggests or McFlurry

Some may argue that Hungry Jacks does the Storm ice cream but it aint Maccas McFlurry

Red Rooster, KFC and HJ all do Nuggets and KFC specialises in chicken but how many can topple Maccas Nuggs??

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Originally Posted by xxxdindin

when ginza managed J Miru, her service was 5 or 6 out of 10. Not great, but met some minumum standards that draw me to revisit her again

J miru under 206 management, her service was 1 out of 10

Same girl, see the difference?

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Brooooo ur fav girl finally made her AV Debut under the stage name "Miru Iitoyo" and now returned to Kyoto hahahaha $330 lol