Yeah I was just gonna say that. A publicly listed company is the last place you would expect to get unbiased opinions or expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
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Yeah I was just gonna say that. A publicly listed company is the last place you would expect to get unbiased opinions or expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vader
Need to rant about how stupid the vaccination roll out is. If you go to the NSW gov website to book your vaccination, you are then forced to pick 2 appointment times for doses 1 & 2. Problem #1 here is, you cannot book ANY appointment if you cannot get a slot for one of the doses. Say you get a slot for dose 1, cannot get a slot for dose 2, that's it you're fucked. Who the fuck thought up this stupid system? The wait time between doses is up to 3 months, what if more vaccines become available in 1 months time? We just wasted 1 month not administering any dose to a whole lot of people simply because there was no second dose available now??
Problem #2: what about those people who have had an AZ 1st shot, had an allergic reaction, and therefore need only 1 more shot of Pfizer? Also fucked huh?
What a complete cock up this is!
Why not try ringing up any one of the chemists administering the vaccine. They won't be govt beaucratic at all.
From what I understand the root cause of Australia's long, slow, damaging, but less deadly slog out of COVID-19 can be traced back to our long-held pride in obtaining medicines for less than what most of the western world pay for them. Basically we weren't prepared to let Pfizer or AZ get their hands into the lolly jar and pay up for a greater share of vaccines.
So the manufacturers played hard ball and constrained our supplies. That is until CSL was able to leverage the Gov't incentives and get a manufacturing licence for AZ. Then the next big fuck-up was the poor handling of one of the rarest possible side effects of AZ - so right after they solve the vaccine shortage crisis they create a wholly more difficult to solve, vaccine hesitancy crisis. All that happened over a year ago now.
Agreed. I also tried this and gave up. I’ve had my two Pfizer shots by going through Sonic Health: https://www.sonicvaccinations.com.au/make-a-booking/Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
You can book the two jabs separately so you don’t have the same issues as the NSW gov site. Of course it’s probably still best to book the second jab at the same time as you book the first to make sure there’s availability. But you have greater flexibility if the dates don’t align perfectly. The other tip, if you can’t find a date that works for you, is to keep coming back to the site and as sometimes they have cancellations so they make those booking times available again. Hope that helps.
They had a death yesterday, confirmed..Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
That would be the first death in 3 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
It makes sense.
Given that over 10% of the population are still unvaccinated it makes sense that there would be a death sooner or later.
I would bet the person who died was unvaccinated.
And even if he was vaccinated, one death in 3 months in a population of 350,000 people with no lockdowns and most businesses operating and people working and travelling is a pretty good result.
It seems now that the NSW govt has moved on to a management phase running up to the relaxation of restrictions by mid December. It's unlikely there will any major change to the lockdown conditions unless the daily case load takes a dramatic fall. It falls to the vaccination rate to dictate restriction removal.
The number of exposure sites listed in the Sydney metropolitan area has fallen to 15 although there are a lot more cases here than that might suggest. They are now relying on QR check in's to drive testing lists for contact tracing rather than listing exposure sites to capture potential "unknown" transmission events. They have already admitted that retail has a low exposure risk and have published the following criteria:-
"In metropolitan Sydney, contact tracing will now focus on people potentially exposed to a case:
in their household
at work
in a high-risk facility, such as:
healthcare or aged care facility
school
childcare centre
any location where transmission has been identified or is considered to be likely to occur."
This probably means that secondary casual contacts and those further downstream will only be contacted if a QR check in exists and is likely to be considered a low priority. It also may mean that efforts to reduce the case load by TTIQ are now secondary to vaccine implementation in the short term. By mid December TTIQ is likely to receive more internal focus as a system that will be refined and improved to become the primary covid management tool of Public Health. None of this will go away, ever. There's another pandemic in the future and this is the construction phase of the systems to cope with it. Expect legislation to formalise a lot of this within the next couple of years.
Wipe your shoes on the "Welcome mat" of future normality as you glance over your shoulder to see small freedoms, privacy and personal choice you once had fade into the past.
Have a strong case of blue balls, first forum post - though a lurker.
Whats everyones' guess on the opening date for massage parlours and FS?
Not quite as free and easy as you suggest:-Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
https://www.government.is/government/covid-19/#actions
Bro, most of this information is archival from 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by adahar
Please do your research more carefully.
So it is, really didn't look that closely.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
This is better:-
https://www.covid.is/data
https://www.covid.is/english Some interesting stuff on this page.
I suggest people do some research on what's happening in Israel, if you think 70 or 80% vaccinated will set you free, I've got bad news for you...
Especially when its now time for a booster...Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
Worse than a flu shot, which is yearly, the covid will become either 6 or 8/9 monthly.
Welcome to the new world order folks !!
Israeli scientists find Pfizer around 39% effective against delta strain.. Denmark is the country to move too, removing all covid restrictions and there will be no vaccine passport...Quote:
Originally Posted by local
https://en.coronasmitte.dk/corona-passportQuote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
Blah blah you gooses check the death rates of vaccinated angainst unvaccinated there is absolutely no comparison. Covid is a disease which we will be living with. The risk will be yours to asses not the government. It will be your responsibility. The population has to move on regardless get used to it. Have a shot dont have a shot who cares, but normal living will be geared towords the vacinated get used to it. Whinge and whine and throw up as many facebook facts as you want. The world is putting their faith in vaccines anti vaxers and all others who wish to resist will be in the minority for i dont know maybe the next ten years or forever.
October 18. Put it in your calendarQuote:
Originally Posted by kungflu20
I'm just worried about kids bro. I have a young kid that is too young to get vaccinated, another one is a bit closer but still below the age that they are looking at allowing to get vaccinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budgyboy
And given that being vaccinated doesn't really prevent me from carrying the virus and giving it to someone who is not vaccinated... I really dread this move by the Gov which I know is going to be unavoidable.
You keep changing the dates rooter lol. FS and rnt won't open on that date. The Government is working on a plan for fully vaccinated staff and patrons to open pubs and restaurants etc. with strict criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
Going to be alot of disappointed people when vaccine rates reach 70%..
Do you think state governments here will do the same.. If you do you have rocks in your head..Quote:
Originally Posted by adahar
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/w...l-disease.html
Mr. Heunicke said that as of Sept. 10, the country would phase out the last of its “important restrictions,” including having to show coronavirus passes at nightclubs and sporting events, according to Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper.
Yeah, I agree. The 70% doesn't mean much at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
You have to get to 80% and preferably 90% for the vaccine to have major impact.
And another thing is that this 70% figure they always refer to to is not 70% of the total population, it is 70% of the population eligible for vaccine which totally ignores people under 16 yo. So they totally ignore around 5 million people in their figures.
So even when you get to 70% of the population eligible for vaccine vaccinated, that is actually only around 55% of the total population, which is nowhere near enough.
To get to 70% and then 80% and then 90% of the total population will take many more months, and eventually if you are serious about vaccination you will have to vaccinate kids.
Kids are not a different species, they get infected too, and they spread infection. The coronavirus was initially not very infectious among kids, but this Delta variation is more so, and it is possible and maybe even likely that you will get other mutations that are even more infectious among kids.
When we get to 70% the politicians will tell us how wonderful they are, and what a great job they have done, but you have to look at the fine print as to what this 70% figure actually means; not much at all.
This crisis is poorly managed by our gov: they say the way out is vax but yet after 2 months of lockdown the youngsters can just start getting their pfizer shots?! Why wait for so long? Just to mention one thing.
Getting 80% of the population vaccinated will take a long time and I'm afraid this will intensify the vaccinated vs unvaccinated fight.
Shouldn't we also try to invest in hospital and open more ICU in the meanwhile (maybe, and I hope, it's the case)?
Anyway we can have a look at what's happening in the developed country of the North hemisphere: we are having their winter and we might have their summer. But then how will look their coming winter (December)? I don't think anybody knows yet...
I can't read Danish, don't use Twitter and Translate is cumbersome so will have to take NYT as read.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
If they do drop everything that'll be the ideal result but the likelihood of our govt doing the same will be remote which I think, is what you said. If our govt doesn't go down the same path then the question arises, why not?
Anybody care to speculate?