Another stupid falling for a girl story - advice?

....don't get me started frisson!

Some of you blokes sound like pussy whipped castrated betas and you make Prince Harry look like an accomplished alpha male.

Understand the fucken realities of the sexual marketplace:
- if a woman is stunning it's guaranteed that she'll have plenty of suitors, followers, options, including a string of betas vying for her attention, affection, and love.
- She will be pedestalised, proposed to, given money, cars, apartments, luxurious gifts, exotic holidays etc; largely funded by the betas in an attempt to BUY her attention, affection and love.
- Attractive women have rotations of men and they'll string them along for as long as it suits their needs AND, until the the 'right one' comes along.
- Having a string of guys constantly chasing them serves as an ego boost, validates their insecurities, provides them with romantic adventures that help spice up their otherwise bland and monotonous boring lives. This viscous cycle will continue until 'the right one' comes along.
- If the right one doesn't come along, or if she's too picky and hard to please, she'll hit her 40's single, become bitter and twisted, she'll grow old and lonely, and be surrounded by 10 cats.
- A guy will need to tick a whole bunch of boxes for a woman to be truly attracted to him, be swept off her feet, and give herself completely to him (body, mind, pussy and soul). And until that happens you are one of many simps that have been deceived into thinking that you are special and that she only does this with you!
- Looks and money will only go so far, focus on all the other masculine shit if you want real results!
- A woman's love is also based on resources and utility. If you can no longer provide them or someone else provides it better than you.....then, you will be replaced.
- A man on top of his game will also have a rotation and selection of women to chose from. It's just a game and in order to play it you gotta become a player. So don't hate the player, hate the game.

Note: For stunning WLs with aerodynamic lines, all the above points is magnified 25x.
The stigma and life experiences associated with the WL lifestyle is what fucks them up emotionally and psychologically and subsequently disqualifies them from being adequate partners, wives and mothers.

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

Understand the fucken realities of the sexual marketplace

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Brother you are I are in total agreement. And you are as friendly and as direct as I am

Unfortunately most humans don't read or learn from words of wisdom. They are destined to just make the mistakes of past generations lol

Yes, any inexperienced guy who meets the 'stunning WL with aerodynamic lines" it will never end well if they lack emotional intelligence

The tragedy for those ladies is that those aerodynamic lines in 9/10 women eventually convert to the same podgy bodies that 9/10 men end up with

Settling down changes a woman, especially if she is really determined on having kids. The "honeymoon" phase is over once kids enter your life. Everything will be about the kid's wellbeing, there's no time to think about your own enjoyment. Something I will never emulate is how some friends in the past will leave their wives home just so that they can have fun outside with friends while the wife had to do all the housework and taking care of the kids.

I like staying home and only going out a couple hours during the day, probably twice a week. Back when I was a young adult I always took care of my little sister as a baby, feeding her milk and babysitting her. She grew fond of me more than her own mother. Unfortunately her mother was the type who still yearns being in a honeymoon phase even after giving birth so that was a good opportunity for me to learn about kids.

Going back to the topic of cultural upbringing, I understand it is an assumption that all Japanese women are nice, sweet, loyal etc. In my experience some can be quite direct and confrontational. However, my cue in knowing which to stay with and which to avoid is to know if their goals align with yours. Then again there is also the saying that respect is a big thing in all relationships - if both partners can't respect each other the relationship will crumble and this will bring about the worst psychological imbalance in the kids who grow up in such households. That was why the issue with my exes asking about my birthday and pretending to forget was a big deal breaker for me - even my ex-wife didn't put in the effort to celebrate my birthday after we got married because she was too self-centred. And because of that I knew it wouldn't be good for us to have kids, because if a wife neglects her own husband then there will definitely be the tendency for her to neglect her own kids.

People who think they want great sex all the time shouldn't get married, they should make enough money to afford punting until the day they die. Marriage is for people ready to give everything to the next generation. For example, if I want to continue being alive for the next 50 years I have two choices - get married and put 200% effort into fatherhood+husbandhood, or be an ordained monk to be a father figure to adults with childhood traumas.

Unconditional love, if done properly, extends to everyone in the household. Obviously the wife when having the first kid will focus mostly on the kid and may have no time for the husband, but this is a good opportunity for the husband to prove that he's useful in the household. If the husband gets home immediately after work and does the things the wife just didn't have time doing, it brings about a great relief to the wife and he will not fall out of "love" for the wife. A wife with less burden will be happier, she can live a married life with kids as if she's still in a honeymoon phase.

Many people's minds are untrained, unfocused. They're easily distracted hence the reason why they easily fall out of love. Maintaining love requires a strong focus. This is why Buddhistic training puts a lot of emphasis on focus, because if we can focus on one point wholeheartedly, we can focus on other emotions. And that's why after 3 months apart I still feel as if M is physically right next to me, her image is always in my heart through strong focus. That's what my teacher taught me, to hold our loved ones strongly in our heart if we want the relationship to thrive.

I don't regret meeting my 3 WL exes. It is through their lives I learned what M had to go through. Pushing myself to love them while it lasted taught me not to easily give up on M. I know M also saw that in me, that's why she refuses to see me give up all these while. If I still don't hear from her up until the new year's, I wish her a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. My 2024 resolution is to wait for M's return and start a life with her.

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

....don't get me started frisson!

Some of you blokes sound like pussy whipped castrated betas and you make Prince Harry look like an accomplished alpha male.

Understand the fucken realities of the sexual marketplace:
- if a woman is stunning it's guaranteed that she'll have plenty of suitors, followers, options, including a string of betas vying for her attention, affection, and love.
- She will be pedestalised, proposed to, given money, cars, apartments, luxurious gifts, exotic holidays etc; largely funded by the betas in an attempt to BUY her attention, affection and love.
- Attractive women have rotations of men and they'll string them along for as long as it suits their needs AND, until the the 'right one' comes along.
- Having a string of guys constantly chasing them serves as an ego boost, validates their insecurities, provides them with romantic adventures that help spice up their otherwise bland and monotonous boring lives. This viscous cycle will continue until 'the right one' comes along.
- If the right one doesn't come along, or if she's too picky and hard to please, she'll hit her 40's single, become bitter and twisted, she'll grow old and lonely, and be surrounded by 10 cats.
- A guy will need to tick a whole bunch of boxes for a woman to be truly attracted to him, be swept off her feet, and give herself completely to him (body, mind, pussy and soul). And until that happens you are one of many simps that have been deceived into thinking that you are special and that she only does this with you!
- Looks and money will only go so far, focus on all the other masculine shit if you want real results!
- A woman's love is also based on resources and utility. If you can no longer provide them or someone else provides it better than you.....then, you will be replaced.
- A man on top of his game will also have a rotation and selection of women to chose from. It's just a game and in order to play it you gotta become a player. So don't hate the player, hate the game.

Note: For stunning WLs with aerodynamic lines, all the above points is magnified 25x.
The stigma and life experiences associated with the WL lifestyle is what fucks them up emotionally and psychologically and subsequently disqualifies them from being adequate partners, wives and mothers.

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Mate, you really need to stop watching fresh n fit or whatever degenerate red pill “alpha male” crap you’re consuming. Your views are extremely unhealthy and very damaging especially when it comes to your views on women and relationships.

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Originally Posted by Jamez11

Mate, you really need to stop watching fresh n fit or whatever degenerate red pill “alpha male” crap you’re consuming. Your views are extremely unhealthy and very damaging especially when it comes to your views on women and relationships.

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To be fair, i think he's only talking about women on the "sexual marketplace" like he stated in the beginning. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in those Andrew Tate bullshit either. I think the point here is to point out that women who are ML/WL/sugar babes are a little different to deal with.

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Originally Posted by Footballpunter

To be fair, i think he's only talking about women on the "sexual marketplace" like he stated in the beginning. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in those Andrew Tate bullshit either. I think the point here is to point out that women who are ML/WL/sugar babes are a little different to deal with.

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Red pillars will describe dating as the “sexual marketplace”, that’s all anyone really needs to know how they view men/women/dating/relationships lol.

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Originally Posted by begov94

Now I know why this thread was started. And I know now who started it other than the obvious username (some people are really good at digging up the past).

I have to admit, I had wrong views in the past. I had no father figure to teach me how to look for a wife - I was told to "figure it out myself". Every relationship I realised that I was easily duped, only because I was trying to avoid becoming like my own father. I didn't want to go through a life of multiple marriages and divorces myself like my father did. Unfortunately I went through my first divorce in early 2019 and luckily no kids involved.

The time I posted the quoted comment I was actually dating a WL, one who was previously quite popular. She accepted my proposal to be her gf almost immediately - I was so happy at that time. She even asked me if I wanted kids. I kept seeing her for more than a year. The dealbreaker was that she purposely forgotten about my birthday which was a traumatic event for me. She didn't even offer any apologies or try to calm me down. I walk out on her.

Weeks after that I saw an opportunity to see M on a regular basis which I couldn't before that because she tends to get booked out in the afternoons. M also announced that she might be quitting by year end. I didn't react to it at first only because I was conflicted between going back to the WL I broke off with or starting anew with M, someone I've been yearning for years. Honestly when M rejected me for the second time I had thoughts of going back to the ex and probably just accepting that I might have to endure the trauma of having my birthday forgotten - I haven't actually celebrated my birthday properly for more than a decade because of a family issue.

Being able to see M regularly and having her convince me to keep seeing her was something that made my connection to her very strong. Something that my 3 other WL exes just didn't have. With the one I saw before M, honestly she's been tormenting me after our sixth month together. I had the strong devotion to stay with her regardless of what was about to happen - I thought that if I had to endure an unhappy marriage and divorce for the second time, so be it. But I felt that something was protecting me - our breakup was purposely caused through that traumatic event. Remembering that traumatic event I didn't even tell M my birthday, hoping that she doesn't do the same to me if we were to continue seeing each other long enough.

So yeah, what I wrote in that old comment was real. The one that I went out with on a shopping date outside was the first ever WL I've dated. That was before I met M.

All I can say now is this - the forum hasn't changed much since then but I wrote that real life experiences just to have a go at the person who "doxxed" me once upon a time ago. I admit that I was still pissed off at her at the time. I wanted to focus on my ex at that time and be the person to make her happy but unfortunately her karma ran out. Right now I don't mind having to experience any karma of leaving my ex. Even if M decides to play me and not come back, I'll accept and move on. All I want is for M to be happy. No point in her making my wish come true if she's going to suffer with thoughts that I might leave her one day, but my dealbreaker is simple - either not celebrate my birthday at all or make the effort to celebrate it even if you can't buy a tiny gift. The ML I dated before my ex also did the same thing by pretending to forget about my birthday after we exchanged our birthdates (and I bought a present for her birthday) but I forgave her at the time. With M, if we were to meet again I don't mind her not celebrating my birthday as long as she doesn't ask for my birthdate. The reason is because it is the issue that causes a rift between myself and my dad before his passing.

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Are you telling us you can only find girlfriends among MLs?

Gone with the winds.

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Originally Posted by Sibon

Are you telling us you can only find girlfriends among MLs?

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No lol.
I have never dated ML/WL before COVID. For some reasons COVID changed my trajectory starting from the first WL I've dated. Even after separating from my ex and waiting for the divorce verdict I was asked by a hot young Taiwanese WL if I was single, and that she's available. I politely rejected by not answering her. Not because I had any prejudice against her job but I just wasn't sure if she's pursuing me because I'm her potential visa ticket.

I think it's because COVID changed the dating landscape a lot. I had zero success on online dating, and trying to meet women IRL was hard because of the many COVID restrictions in place. Nowadays it has normalised, the places I normally frequent (not brothels/MP) have lots of choices I can talk to but M caught my heart, so I feel quite heavy talking to another attractive girl with M in my mind.

I believe in karmic affinity - the reason why I met M and the reason why it took 3 years after that before my chance of pursuing her started opening up. Also the added fact that M decided to announce her retirement to me very early on, and start working an extra day in a new shop where I had no problems booking her weekly.

Regardless of whether M returns or not, she will be the last person in this sort of industry I'll ever date. If she doesn't come back in 5 years then maybe I'll move on and look for a non-SW again. It was her wish as well that I don't pursue other SWs, and I don't normally pursue a relationship with SWs unless they hint that they're looking for a relationship like how my 3 exes did.

For the OP:

1. Block and Delete her number from your contacts
2. Delete all messages
3. Deactivate your Seeking account for a while or block/Delete her.
4. Multiple visits to some shops (If you are into Asians 42G, No5, Ginza). Try any girl you fancy till you find an attractive girl with good service.
5. Explore the shops, try someone else. Don't stick to one you liked. Just to make sure you don't fall for another one
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5. In a couple of weeks you will forget about that Girl.

Remember you are just an ATM to her and she is a fantastic liar. It's her job. Get real or you will end up in a very sad place. This is their game, and most of the times we are complete idiots infront of them.

The red pill movement started as a wake-up call to guys constantly used and abused by women abusing the feminist domestic family laws. Every time these kind of "woke" movements arises there's always people trying to monetize the situation by calling themselves "gurus" claiming to help other guys.

Although I do agree with the point that men shouldn't be pushed over by their partners but I don't agree with the misogynistic ideas that "women like to be used as sex slaves". I had unfriended several people in my life who subscribed to Andrew Tate's crazy ideas in the past.

In my opinion relationships have to be equal - both partners can discuss who's sole responsibility is for each household building blocks. If the women happens to earn more then happy days, let the men take up more house chores to make up for it. I think the issue is that people think just because they're the sole breadwinner they're entitled to a partner that does all the housework while they sit on their bums all day.

If I was earning more than my partner, it doesn't change my duties to her. Regardless of whether we have kids or not, if I see a dirty dish in the sink while she's having a nap on the couch I'll wash it. If the laundry started piling up I'll start the washing machine. I'm not gonna wait for her to do it just because it's her "job" as a housewife. Unfortunately I'm a little bit of an OCD myself at home, I like things to be tidy and not messy so I tend to get things done even if I was tired from work.

To me I don't need red pill/blue pill ideologies - common sense and a sense of making your chosen partner happy around the clock is what you need for a stable relationship.

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Originally Posted by personaa

most of the times we are complete idiots infront of them.

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sadly that's probably very true. whatever you moves that you think you are putting on her, she's probably seen it from 50 other guys

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Originally Posted by begov94

The red pill movement started as a wake-up call to guys constantly used and abused by women abusing the feminist domestic family laws. Every time these kind of "woke" movements arises there's always people trying to monetize the situation by calling themselves "gurus" claiming to help other guys.

Although I do agree with the point that men shouldn't be pushed over by their partners but I don't agree with the misogynistic ideas that "women like to be used as sex slaves". I had unfriended several people in my life who subscribed to Andrew Tate's crazy ideas in the past.

In my opinion relationships have to be equal - both partners can discuss who's sole responsibility is for each household building blocks. If the women happens to earn more then happy days, let the men take up more house chores to make up for it. I think the issue is that people think just because they're the sole breadwinner they're entitled to a partner that does all the housework while they sit on their bums all day.

If I was earning more than my partner, it doesn't change my duties to her. Regardless of whether we have kids or not, if I see a dirty dish in the sink while she's having a nap on the couch I'll wash it. If the laundry started piling up I'll start the washing machine. I'm not gonna wait for her to do it just because it's her "job" as a housewife. Unfortunately I'm a little bit of an OCD myself at home, I like things to be tidy and not messy so I tend to get things done even if I was tired from work.

To me I don't need red pill/blue pill ideologies - common sense and a sense of making your chosen partner happy around the clock is what you need for a stable relationship.

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There are a few pills i think you may need....

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Originally Posted by CarpetJam

There are a few pills i think you may need....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMhd_SZtLLE

This reminds me of way back. I was listening to the friendlier radio version that they renamed as "Purple Hills", and wondered why it was called that.
Then on Limewire I found the "... Pills" version, read the lyrics and finally figured it out.

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Originally Posted by Jamez11

Mate, you really need to stop watching fresh n fit or whatever degenerate red pill “alpha male” crap you’re consuming. Your views are extremely unhealthy and very damaging especially when it comes to your views on women and relationships.

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Bro, so which part are you most upset about, the truths about female nature or the fact that you might be one of those pussy whipped beta males?

Either way, before you bring up the subject of red pills etc you better first understand the differences between blue, red, purple and black pills. Once you have a grasp of those concepts then we can start to have some form of meaningful dialogue. Until then you can continue on your merry beta ways.

eeeh what the little tiny pink pills do bro?

I don't use the blue pill red pill analogy as it adds an extra meaningless layer of cultural reference

Don't get lost down the rabbit hole of the Matrix, and think on your own. Just because Andrew Tate says it, doesn't mean you have to be his parrot. Some dodgy dating mentors in 2005 were also using the red pill blue pill expression, it's so dated now

State things as they are

As a man realise your vulnerability, if your only contact with women is with a sex worker. Do better

A sex worker is a hard working person. Pay your money for a service, finish, leave. Don't overcomplicate things

If you subscribe to a woman on OnlyFans, wake up to yourself and stop. You are following a cultural trend like a loser. It's the online equivalent of an expensive strip show, where all you get after paying a sh_t load of your hard earned money, is masturbating on your own. True and pathetic

Be original and spend the money on your self instead, or even better, save and invest some money

Though the original post was a repeat of many similar threads but have to admire thoughtful discussions by everyone here. As mentioned by Frisson all this pill terminologies are BS. Get real.

Not just sugar stuff. But that's japanese in general from my own experience. The modern japan and its dating is super fucked.

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Originally Posted by Sher1888

Not just sugar stuff. But that's japanese in general from my own experience. The modern japan and its dating is super fucked.

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They need to learn how to eat more animal innards and drink sour milk. Also learn how to shit in nature - dig a hole, empty your bowels there, clean your backsides, bury your own shit and ride away.

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Originally Posted by personaa

Though the original post was a repeat of many similar threads but have to admire thoughtful discussions by everyone here. As mentioned by Frisson all this pill terminologies are BS. Get real.

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Haha, yes, just immature men trying to sound cool and like they know all there is to know about how to live your life. Get real indeed!

In the meanwhile another 'immature' man walks in barefoot and and makes a childish judgement about everyone else to show off. Get off your high horse pal!

Time to invent your pill, You know it all haha

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Originally Posted by personaa

In the meanwhile another 'immature' man walks in barefoot and and makes a childish judgement about everyone else to show off. Get off your high horse pal!

Time to invent your pill mate! You know it all haha

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cant agree more.

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Originally Posted by Sher1888

Not just sugar stuff. But that's japanese in general from my own experience. The modern japan and its dating is super fucked.

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Really? It's that common? I thought it might of been her.

Update on me. Thinking i'll try and see her one more time to close it out. She tends to ignore my messages for awhile which is fucking me. Tempted to end it just then and there over it lol.