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Does Victoria fuck?
You have launched a great idea and I admire your courage. Frankly, you already know that it cannot be scaled in the way you are running it, even if you got a partner or two to cope with the labour-intensive element of the venture.Quote:
Originally Posted by xboyx
Long ago there used to be a dating business called Dinner For Six, and a copycat one called Six For Supper where the operators organised dinner dates at pre-determined restaurants for 3 guys and 3 girls to meet. Payment was done as a subscription fee. The operators didn’t meet the 6 people.
Maybe you can change your model to be Dinner for Two, or Coffee For Two. You arrange it all by phone or email or WhatsApp, and collect the man’s payment via PayPal or similar. Then you tell each of them which cafe to meet at on an agreed date and time.
A cafe is a safe place. In public. If the woman doesn’t like the guy she can leave, and vice verse.
Your current model of needing to personally meet both girl and guy at a physical location and introduce them is not going to succeed— and certainly not make you rich!!!
The problem with your business model is that you are too hands on.
It is too much work for you. It limits how many dates you can organise.
And it's awkward for the customer to have to meet you and deal with you first.
You need to automate the process but still collect your fee. That's the challenge.
If his goal is to keep the girls safe/comfortable then there needs to be a hand's on process.Quote:
Originally Posted by rooter
The other option is a paid background check, but even that isn't perfect. If he just wants to be a pimp, then just set up a simple data base where guys review the girls they see and vice versa and you're set. Shit review for the guy, he's banned for x amount of time. Shit review for the girl, she's coached on improvement. You can have infinite scaling at this point, but then what's the difference between this and a sugar daddy site?
The girls are adults and the meetings are in public places like cafes. Therefore, it’s as safe as it can possibly be. Just like seeking dot com interactions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukeduker222
He cannot screen either the men or the girls in a few minutes when he first meets them. No one can.
If the SHTF for whatever reason is he accountable financially?
The site says the girls are available “all day”, what happens if I book her from 11pm to 6 am? What are we going to do? :rolleyes:
Number of girls listed is not growing. It’s a warning sign the business model isn’t going to go far. Unfortunately!
I haven't been recruiting actively, only on 1 channel as I have other things going on and not ready to take on too many girls yet.
on another note, got a new girl starting, she's hot according to many guys: Amber, 22yo girl
she's open minded which means opens to DFK and sex depending on the guy and chemistry. Don't expect free sex, tip is expected.
Still interested to give it a try just as an experience and see what happens, but unfortunately I've been unwell for a couple of months so haven't had a chance.
Can certainly see why it would have a market.
Yes she is. She looks hot as fuck. The whole rent a girlfriend thing is good idea especially for fellow brothers who want to build up confidence with chatting to girls. I'll admit it. I was shocking with talking to girls about 20 years ago but over time, I've built confidence in talking to all sorts of woman weather they are ugly as fuck or drop dead gorgeous (Chinese girls especially).Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpumper
Again, this Amber girl looks very attractive. I might even try this rent a girlfriend thing just to meet new people. Would be good to take a break from punting and just sit down, have a conversation and chillout. If it leads to sex, tip would be fine lol.
thanks guys for all the input. this forum has led me to meet some friends over the years.
I've had some members reaching out to me and have/will meet some and we've decided to try some collaboration.
Regarding the business, it's not the efficient process that I'm worried about. Technical issues are rarely a problem.
- Cash payment can be fixed by changing to credit card payment/online payment.
- Booking management can be fixed by using a CRM system which I've already built one and ready to use.
- Manual booking can be changed to online booking if needed such as using Calendly.
I deliberately hand-connect the girls and customers because the founder must be there at the start to see the problems and better understand how to fix them, and to see how much demand there is, why customers churned, etc.
I spent years reading Y Combinator, Paul Graham advice on the early stages of startups. "Do things that don't scale", and "you'd better have 100 customers who really love you than have 1000 customers who sort of like you". This has been the mantra that Paul / Y Combinator recommended which I take to heart. It's important to do things manually at the start before using any processes or automation. I've seen this and done this before for another business hence I didn't put any systems in place yet.
The most important question is, “What is the unique advantage of your new venture compared to well established sites like seeking.com?”
With seeking.com it is possible to connect with many girls and offer to have an initial M&G (meet and greet) coffee date and pay them the $90 hourly rate you have advertised.
When starting any new business, your success will depend on how you will fill a gap or how you will beat or take away a market share from the established operators.
Sites like Seeking have prohibitive entry costs - exorbitant fees for membership and to message girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewv
I prefer what our fellow punter has done much more, the only thing is he needs to automate it a bit to take the workload off himself.
Sounds expensive to me. You hire them and may not have sex :( so $90 hourly rate and then if they agree to sex, you have to pay more.
You will end up paying lot more. Instead go to ginza or m5 and guaranteed sex twice with everything for $300
We want to fuck and have bbbj cim daty etc. who wants to talk spending money ? You can have a regular gf for talking and watching movie 😁
I agree and see your points, can be ended up paying lot more. For some people who don't have a GF may want to also spend time outside and feel some GFE I guess. You can get full service at those places but talking and spending time outdoors with a friendly girl can give you some kind of excitement (of course for people willing to pay same money for no sex)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpearl
Expensive?
A girl at Kyoto tried selling me a sob story about how she's worked non stop for 6 months and never been taken out to a restaurant in Sydney.
Asked me to book her for 2 hours ($320 per hour), then instead of sex. She wanted me to take her out to a nice restaurant within those 2 hours.
I said sorry I can't make it.
Now that would have been an expensive night with no sex.
Glad you didn’t do it riff. Same thing happened at Gina for me. We had sex but wanted to do private. I said no and left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
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Originally Posted by Riff888
A sob story that you still have to pay for. LOL. These w/l's make me laugh sometimes.
Worst sob story I’ve heard recently is a SW with a quarter of a mil of debts. As if I’m going to bring her life into line. What was she expecting to give in return, her soul?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
Does amber provided any customer full service or anything you know. I mean she is pretty hot from pictures i want to try please let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by xboyx
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yea agree $90/hour could be a put-off for many punters cuz in Sydney, we can pay $150 - $260 and get the whole package DFK CIM 69 FIV FS.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpearl
So far, there are bookings and the experience so far have been great for both girls and guys. They enjoyed the dates and booked again. It's been good GFE that certain guys wanted, not just bang bang bang then leave.
eventually we'll look into renting a place so that more services can be provided. This is easier said than done though cuz it involves higher costs, recruiting the right girls, plus need one to staff the place. The prices are not fixed and can be changed at this stage.
HI All,
Posting this feedback as I have taken out 4 of the females from the site : HoneyFriend.com.au. All are in sequence of order I have visited.
Name : Amber
Age: early 20 - Yes she looks super young and face is very pretty.
Height: 163 cm - Pretty accurate
Weight: 54 kg - A little bit chubby than the photos, but still great bodyline
Nationality: Myanmar
English level: intermediate
Location: Sydney NSW
Price: $90/hour
Services : Hand Holding, Hugging, DFK !!, Asked for FS but advised she is not interested to partake in it.
Name : Jessie
Age: mid 30 - She is at least 40+, Face is full of make up, hands are all wrinkled.
Height: 163 cm - Not sure if this is accurate, more like 150-
Weight: 49 kg
Nationality: Taiwanese
English level: advance
Location: Sydney NSW
Price: $90/hour
Services : During my meet up, Jessie did not allow hand holding or hugging, not even lip kiss. More of just a friend meeting up for money. Wasted my time and gave this feedback to the owner.
Name : Samantha
Age: mid 20 - She is 25 years old if I recall correctly.
Height: 147 cm - She is super short, I am 188cm tall so standing next to her in public was a bit odd.
Weight: 43 kg
Nationality: Thai
English level: intermediate
Location: Sydney NSW
Price: $90/hour
Services:
Holding Hands - Yes
Hugging - Yes
Lip Kiss - Yes
DFK - Yes
Handjob - She stated extra $100.00
Blowjob (Not sure if its covered or not) - She stated extra $150.00
Full Service/Sex - She stated extra $300.00
Name : Victoria
Age: mid 20 - Super young look too.
Height: 157 cm - matched her in person
Weight: 44 kg
Nationality: Thai
Location: Sydney NSW
Price: $90/hour
Services : Kiss on cheek, holding hands and hugging.
After seeing these 4 people, I probably would not want to see Jessie again as she's a bit of a throw off advertising herself as younger that she actually is.
Would definitely see Amber or Victoria again. Samantha is a bit too short for me.
Take care of them when you're out and about !
Great feedback bro, and thanks for TOFTT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isilentlove
Personally it's not my thing and if my D isn't getting sucked and $150 for a BJ... nah
What isn’t sexually?Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanpumper
Nothing is tangible after the fact, just a memory. The only thing tangible is the money the SW has in her pocket.