Don't go making the same mistakes now.... keep seeing different girls....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
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Don't go making the same mistakes now.... keep seeing different girls....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Who doesn’t take advantage of someone?
It's just business, nothing personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Happy fucking at your new locale.
Bitch? Really?!? Why, because she didn't fulfill your fantasy of messaging you, asking about you, that she missed you, so you could message her back with a "F*ck off BITCH"? What exactly did she owe you sans pay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
WADR, I think you still don't understand the methodology of P4P. That's the trouble with punting when you don't have any (or many) IRL experiences with RL relationships, thus mistaking sex for a relationship. You were nice to hear, gave her gifts, tips, put up with substandard service, and for that she owes you what? That's on YOU.
You work for a living? Have a job? Great boss, gives you overtime, achievement bonuses, performance awards... Great. But if you get a better offer from another boss, are you going to stick around? You get complacent, slack off, boss fires you... seems to me that job AND salary wasn't all that important to you. Just BUSINESS.
Even if you don't have a job, certainly you've gone to a restaurant. The waitress who always greets you, gives you a great table, chats with you as she takes your order, brings your food... that's her JOB. Doesn't mean she wants to see you outside the restaurant. When you walk out the door, you're out of her world, and she's on to the next customer. That's her job. It's BUSINESS. You might THINK you have a relationship, a connection... and that's where real life experiences help you differentiate between fantasy and reality.
No, they're not all out to get you. You can have a connection with an acquaintance, just like those work colleagues, other students. You might have lunch together, but how many are you going to invite home for dinner?
You condemn a great actress playing a part in a play that you've bought a ticket for, when after the show's over, she doesn't continue in character? You enjoyed the performance, sent her a bouquet... so what? It's her job; I'm sure she's pleased you were happy. But when another show comes along...
It's not personal. Cuts both ways. What exactly do you own a provider who's given you a great time, free extras, but you're just not that interested after awhile? Continuing repeat business, or do you just move on? It's BUSINESS.
My advice? Lose the entitled attitude, have a good time, enjoy the company. But DON'T mistake it for real life. It's called a gfE for a reason; it's not a GF, no matter how much you want it to be.
Woah you seem crazy here mate. Maybe its a good thing she didnt reach out to youQuote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Good advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
Last week I saw a really nice girl for the 4th time. I give her her GFE extras money, and generally an extra 50-100, and we have had great sessions.
So she comes in, we hug, she explains how glad she was when she saw it was me who booked her.... Nice, I thought.
In the shower, out. Onto the bed - I lean in for a kiss.....
'So, do you want the girlfriend experience..?'
I'd forgotten to pay her.
My fault. Just totally slipped my mind - the money was in my pocket of my duds.
Paid her, and had a good session.
But - it did bum me just a bit..... it shouldn't have of course.
Be careful guys!
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Originally Posted by 11Bravo
I never messaged her "fuck off bitch". Things just ended in silence. Don't forget she was the one manipulating me. I didn't do anything to herQuote:
Originally Posted by 1inchguy
We had been messaging before. It would take her less than 5s to send a message. If I'm not worth even 5s, then I will just disappear as she probably wishes
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Originally Posted by 11Bravo
Read it again: I said your FANTASY... perhaps you do have a difficult time distinguishing fantasy from reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Bold added for emphasis in the quote. before, and probably? Learn to read the room. Clear that she wasn't interested, so why should she message you? Do you message girls (I assume there's some) that you no longer see, will not see, just to say "hi". Why? You're clutter. Most punters don't want unsolicited messages and most all girls understand that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
So do you always immediately answer your messages even when you're working? You're FIRED. There was another punter on here that rated his friends by their response times. I guess we all have our own criteria. I just never consider myself the center of the universe (more an outside moon with little gravitational pull, but then, I'm never offering a PERMANENT orbit).
It's a gfE. You want a GF? You're looking in the wrong places...
Old soldiers (providers, punters) never die, they just fade away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Happens to all of us. Reminded me of the time, a girl I'd seen a couple of times. Great service. This time, we finish, she cleans up, I dress. Say goodbye, heading for the door. She asks if I've forgotten anything. I check; no, have my sunglasses, phone, bag. I'm good to go. She asks if I'm sure. I say Yes, I'm sure. "My money..." I sheepishly (baa baa) said sorry, paid her. That girl done did fucked my brains out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bung72
I think what people are trying to gently point out is that you are being overly emotional about this, and it isn't healthy for you to feel this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
It's easy for me to say this because I'm not in your position, however I get it. I have definitely been cut up in the past in situations like yours, just as some of the girls get jealous and possessive of their customers. It's the nature of this industry.
The reality is there are tons of great providers out there, and the advise you have consistently been given is to look for her and move on from this one without regret or anger. And it is good advise.
The message game… you need to have an IDGAF attitude. Yes they live on their phones and yes they choose if and when they respond to your message so you treat them the same way. Let them hang.
For example one WL I previously wrote about made me wait, so now I’ll txt her once every week or two about something totally irrelevant to punting or dating and yes she’s waiting to go out on a second date but I can’t be bothered to set to a time or a day. So now when I send a txt within 5 minutes she replies back…. She can wait.
Another ML has gone off the radar because I stopped replying to her daily broadcast which she no doubt sent to others. She thinks I’ll chase but I won’t. That game of hers isn’t working now. Yes we dated and was good company but I’m not playing her game. She can wait too. Nothings changed in her life, same friends, same clubs she goes too, same same same. Been there, done that and unless she’s got something different to offer why go back?
Messaging?? I played that once outside of punting with an affair.... it did my head in.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
I'm very happy to not be messaging these girls, in any case as a married punter it would be very bloody game. Our phones here aren't super secret. Often while driving, my wife will pick up my phone to do something, like send pics of the kids to her phone or something, so I need to keep it pretty sterile! My facebook feed these days would raise her eyebrows I'm sure! :D
Myself, I don't play games, no interest in video games, no interest in phone games; my life is too short. I like messaging because it's a "at your convenience" style. For punting, with some regulars, I'll give a quarterly ping to check comms, and so when I'm BOTG, it's not a cold call. When BOTG, I'll message rather than call for a booking just so I don't disturb. Simple reciprocity; when she's with me, she's with me, sans interruptions. Like I said, not the center of the universe.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
you are getting the VIP wife treatment package .....
you should be grateful... haha..
The exchange of numbers is part of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
She gives you her number because you asked for it. I’ve never seen any WL give away a number before she was asked. They don’t spruik like that do they? So you initiate the game and she follows through.
It brings you just that little bit closer and you think it’s gives you an edge. That the punter with her number is getting more of a step in than one without. That you’ll get the next level of treatment because we’re “social”. It’s a feel good moment when she shares her number isn’t it? Even if it IS her work one.
Like chasing a GF the first thing you do is exchange numbers. Without comms nothing transcribes, you want more you communicate more, there is no telepathy.
Whether the messages mean anything or go anywhere is entirely up to you.
Well, I'm the opposite. I've never asked for her number and only ever got her number because she reached out to me or asked for my number.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
I also only used the number to book sessions. No time for games or bullshit, or dates for that matter.
Damn, that logic is way TOO convoluted for me. As I've said, the biggest advance in PUNTING in 30 years is when providers could afford mobile phones. Not smart phones, simple phones with SMS. I want to see her again, I ask for her contact, and, most often, she provides it. Then it's trivial to find her again. Simple, PRACTICAL, no games involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
Edge? Steps? Yea, so much easier to arrange a rendezvous when you have comms. No plaintive whining posts of "Does anyone know where she went?" Yes, I DO; I just message her. No wandering around shop to shop, bar to bar, "Oh where oh where can she be?" It saves me steps, time, money (why pay an entrance fee to look for her when she might not be there?) A simple query will do ya; Let your fingers do the walking.
Now, with smart phones, apps with built-in translators, trivial for that next assignation. Don't even have to break a sweat (well, at least before you meet her).
You want to date them? Up to you. Me, I'm here professionally.
TDY, BOTG, hit the ground running...
Exhibit #1:
There's even a thread for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnX
Well the ploy with the ML worked and she’s messaged back all sweet, polite, nice and with good manners. See, what did it take, two or three days? This isn’t about punting, it’s about dating someone you want, anyone can punt them but going the next step is a game of chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
Come on, let's be serious. You know you can roll those dice, but eventually you will crap out. Meaningless punt, meaningless date, all the same to me. Seems you're the only one who is impressed with your flexing.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
It’s not a flex but a fact. Stating facts are allowed I presume? This one is most definitely living together material and when we’ve been out it’s really wonderful.Quote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
Have you ever thought about someone special or someone so unique that in your wildest dreams you thought one day you could have just that? The thought that’s been in the back of your mind for a very long time and then one day that thought becomes reality. Well that’s how she is to me. Before I didn’t respect her as she was a number, punt, date and burn.
Now my thinking is different.
You should be happy for me, at least I’m happy for myself… Now as long as I don’t burn her for some really really stupid reason everything will be fine.
I felt I’d just put it out here and will tell my RL mates when I get around to talking to them. Perhaps my only issue is her friends and what they think of me but I’m sure she’ll think she’s playing me somehow and will present two sides, one for them and one for me.
You only live once @11Bravo so I’ll move forward with this one.
Dating, chasing, or gaming a sex worker ain’t fucken flexing, bro. It’s screams desperate and needy simp behavior disguised as confidence. It'd be like buying your own birthday present and acting surprised!........just sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by 11Bravo
Well, you know what they say: the best predictor of future performance is past performance. Like they also say, time will tell. But I'd say not off to a good start by thinking that she's thinking that she's playing... Sorry, just all too convoluted for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
But needing to post the news here... doesn't strike me as thinking all that differently, more along the lines of "look at me, I'm in a relationship with a working girl..." I'd think the key would be when you stop thinking of her as a working girl and start thinking of her as a person, but that's just me.
I will sincerely say, good luck. You are correct, only one life.
LOL when I first read, stopped to reply, read it again, and LOL again. THANKS, brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter
Aren’t I entitled to another folly?
I’m the one who chases these women whilst you guys pay them then leave and of course I pay them initially but I use it as a filter for an end game. If the sex is good and they’re hot looking then yes I’m dating them.
You only have to go out with a hottie on your arm and see the looks you get and in fact this ML is a most definite head turner. In fact I’d walk her all around town just for the looks she gets from guys of all ages and other women.
Is there anything wrong with that?
How is it simpish or desperate and needy when I control everything? Whether they stay or go is entirely up to me and as I’ve written previously I have a propensity for dumping any of them on a whim.
You need counselling especially from what you wrote. You sound narcissistic where I even confirmed with ChatGPT...Quote:
Originally Posted by justincase
"Based on the tone and the way the person describes their approach to dating, it could definitely be seen as narcissistic. The focus on control, validation, and objectifying others for personal gain can be traits of narcissism. There's also a bit of detachment from how the women might feel in the situation, which can be a sign of a lack of empathy, something often associated with narcissistic behavior."
Unless you look like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, BTS, SuperJunior, these girls don't want anything to do with you outside of the shop. So they will not reach out or message you. Get a girlfriend if this is what you're afterQuote:
Originally Posted by Sinkie
Otherwise you are just another number/paycheck/customer to her
Alternatively, u could also look like Jabba the Hutt but have a big fat bank account and they would also be more than happy to hang out with you outside of the shop...Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock
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