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Originally Posted by moonlighter
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lol this is a good one there is always the other side.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonlighter
Thumbs up !Quote:
Originally Posted by moonlighter
This brought back a lot of memories after reading this thread, and would like to share a very typical story which a lot of others can identify with.Quote:
Originally Posted by fully
In my late 20's, I saw a girl who worked @ 5 Gerald. It started off as a convenient sexual service for the first 3 months, which later developed into a friendship. We began a relationship for the next 3 months outside of her work. It didn't last long as the relationship was fuelled by drug addiction on both parts. Suffice to say, it was very emotionally charged and at times very destructive.
However, I was never emotionally present but was physically present to witness all the destructive behaviour on her part. I slowly weened myself off her and the drugs and faded into the background. I did not have a problem knowing that this was her line of work, but had an issue, when later it was rubbed in my face about what we never got to do. I walked away feeling 'used', even knowing that I had no strong feelings for her.
She was a gf at the time, and was even introduced to my friends and family. Deep down inside, she has a good heart but was consumed by the effects of drug abuse. (from my perspective) We met for a reason, at the lowest and highest point in my life (financially successful with a cocaine habit) As I have spent a decade 'hanging' out in brothels and massage places and befriending ladies whilst looking for love in all the wrong places. There were moments were it may have been authentic, but the majority of the interaction were superficial.
In the end, I had to wake up and ween myself off my habit when she, herself told me that I had a problem. We called it quits and I moved on. This only happened after a series of traumatic events that followed,
1. Breaking up a punch up between her and her estranged mum, who had suspicions about her work life. All this happened before the stroke of midnight (New Year's Eve). Consequently, spent New Year's Day in a cop shop giving statements.
2. Driving her 'co-worker' friend to RPA when she allegedly overdosed on pills in the shower. This happened the next day after Valentine's Night @ the Hilton. The 3 of us spent a night together, but that is another story...
It was a roller coaster ride at the time, an eventful way to start the year to say the least. I was convinced that I could have a 'normal' relationship with a WL, seeing that I surround myself with them. (Not to stereotype a certain group of WL's, but the majority of them I was attracted to, were also open to recreational drug use, and were caucasian) Subconsciously, I think I was trying to 'save' her too, as I was always doing with all the rest that I have met. My addiction played a big part, as I have found that it fuelled my appetite for sex with WL's.
In short, the relationship did not work for me. However, it was an experience I won't forget, but will add, as a lesson in life.
Forward to 2008, and I had met a beautiful, wonderful, intelligent girl whom I adored and thought that she could have been the one. This was through a housemate at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmk76
Couple of months into the relationship, she had told me about her personal ambition. Of wanting to be an escort! My heart sank, as I was already developing feelings for her. I was a little upset and miffed. This, she confided in me after I had opened up about my sexual past, which included visiting brothels, massage places and having a relationship with a WL.
She thought that I was the perfect ‘candidate’ to support this ambition of hers. She was inspired by a famous porn actress by the name of Annabel Chong, who found fame in performing with the most participants in a gangbang. Luckily, porn was not her first choice but instead, breaking into the world of high class escort services.
We spoke about this in every way, and she had persuaded me on why this relationship would work. And I had given her reasons why it wouldn’t. She was a very level headed girl who had big dreams, and wanted to make the most money in the shortest time possible. The money she made, to buy all the nice things she had always wanted.
Not wanting to lose this girl, I had doubts but gave it a shot at continuing the relationship with her.
She only worked in the weekends, and was on call for most of the time including the holidays, which was not always convenient. When we were at a movie at night for example, and she gets a call for a booking, we would head home so she could prepare for work.
She would usually drive herself there, and only book a cab when she knew she was going to drink a bit with a client. Rarely turning down bookings; since the hourly rate made was $600 and above (after the agencies cut) Ultimately, she secured a handful of clients and saw them privately and was very astute in her business dealings.
This being rather lucrative; I had to understand from her point of view, as it was her priority to make as much money as possible. However, this was a blow to my ego, as I felt that I was no longer needed financially. She was averaging 2 -3k a weekend. Her clients include barristers, financiers and business owners.
This became increasingly difficult for me as well, I was getting jealous and insecure about the clients who had lavish her with gifts (lap top, jewellery, lingerie, fine dining) The fact that these older gentlemen provided things that I could not financially in everyday life made me more resentful. She made a point that these were only ‘artificial’ gifts and that it meant nothing significantly.
She would never flaunt all the gifts she had because I would make her feel guilty about when she brought it up. In hindsight, she only wanted to share what had been given to her, and not boast about it.
Now and then too, I would query about her clients, only to make myself more enraged after finding out personal details.
In order to make things seem ‘fair’ to me, I had even suggested that if she was going to ‘work’, then I would go to massages in turn. Obviously, this was not an informed or ‘mature’ thought on my part. She was quite upset at this selfish idea of mine.
We lived together for a year before parting ways. We had a normal life, spent time with our families and friends. She was a wonderful gf, but I would ignore and not acknowledge her work life. That helped to make things bearable. Another way for me to cope and not obsess about it all, I began gambling at poker dens.
No one ever knew about her lifestyle, but was always curious about how she could afford to live and have luxurious items at the time, since she was at uni and worked very minimal. It was later revealed to a select few of her close friends, who seemed to be far more supportive. (I guess since they were females) No one from my end knew about her work life, as I have made a promise to her that I would not do so.
We drifted apart towards the end of the year of living together, as I was not happy and had always unintentionally picked fights with her.
I don’t think I was mature enough or prepared to be in a relationship quite like this. I respected her choice to do so, but could not offer emotional strength and support for that choice. I made her to blame for all the undoings of the relationship and self-sabotaged it with my negative attitude.
It was also playing in the back of her mind, if I would go out for a punt every time we had a fight. I told her truthfully, that it almost happened once when I was at Angeltown. At the start of the session, I received 2 phone calls from her whilst naked and about to lead myself into temptation. In the end, I could not go through with it, apologised to the girl and left.
It all ended with me not wanting to have her in my life. However, we have made our peace and cleared a lot of unanswered questions. I then consciously proceeded to change my mobile phone number, just so that there is not a possible chance that she may need to keep in touch with me as an ex bf.
I say this to those who choose to have a relationship with one who is a WL, or even thinking of being one. Weigh up your pros and cons of it all and discuss openly and constructively about the possibilities of why this relationship may work.
And what benefits would it have for you and the lass. A working business relationship would work as expectations and boundaries have been set between the two parties. Ensure that the ‘terms and conditions’ are also understood and respected by both. The first sign of emotional connection develops, make each other aware and renegotiate if needed, or simply walk away if it is not what one wants.
There are a lot of reasons why WL’s work in this industry, so ask them too so that you are well informed about why they are doing this. And whether being in a relationship would suit each other in the current climate. These were similar suggestions presented to me, but I had overlooked it objectively in the past.
Good luck to all out there, and enjoy the most of it!
Thanks for sharing your experience CMK
Appreciate it
Boater
Mannykay, you poor baby... Did papa upset you?? I did mentioned i have lost the plot and i did say that i was full of it..... Or did i not??.... Must admit i did cross the line by making that post..I can make up for ya!! HEHE!!... Seriously man, if you're still greiving about the post that i have made, cum give papa a cuddle, you'll feel alot better....... Christmas is just around the corner so Santa Hell No has lots of brand new bags of toys for you to play with, bring a tub of vass for yourself and you'll know what i mean....... Papa is waiting for you to 'sek sii' (cuddle)..........:shout:Quote:
Originally Posted by mannykay
Normal girl fuck 1 or 2 man for 200+ times in a year for free, WL fuck 100+ man for 200+ times in a year for a truck of money, what's the difference? At the end of the day, they are both girls, they both got fucked for 200+ times....;)
Sorry for my bad English :(
Nothing's wrong with your English, I get the full picture ! Only that you didn't mention a normal girl might do a lot more barebacks than working girls !Quote:
Originally Posted by walkout
Bro , i can say this is one of the best story of life in this forum , thank you for sharing broQuote:
Originally Posted by cmk76
Your most welcome, glad I could share. I think writing this, was somewhat a healing process for me. To get this off my chest anonymously too was very therapeutic. I can account it objectively and not have any emotional connection to it. As stated, I could not even discuss this event of my life with any of my closest friends. It left me quite depressed and I had to deal with it internally. I contemplated getting back on cocaine, but gambling got the better of me instead! Another chapter of my life closed and a lesson experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by cisco
Good story and sound like her job just put to much stress in your relationship but I can see your being a gentleman now as you even admit to do the wrong thing or you are getting more mature and experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmk76
Good lesson is never cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmk76
Great story.
Although it has a conclusion of that particular experience of yours (i.e. didn't work). you didn't generalise neither did you close your mind for other possibilities. With advices.
Discuss. And be prepared.
Be sure not to regret in the future, which means if it's no, say no.
If it's yes, then don't be afraid to say yes.
Regret is the most lethal poison, affecting every aspects in your life.
Don't treat them like second class citizen.. Some of them are so smart and intelligent. It's just people want different things in life.
I have the luck to date these two gorgeous and become friends with a few more. I have never hesitated bring them out anywhere.
So, make your point and let him be. He would appreciate it :-)
It's obvious to me who you are talking about, freelancer:grimace:
For those who dated WLs working full-time, did you find it hard to find time to spend together?
Take for instance those Korean WLs who work 6 days a week, and sometimes she may even be too tired to see you on her day off?
Mate, I think you've just answered your own question. If you were working 6 days a week, would you have time too 'date' someone, let alone have time to yourself? Take these scenarios as possibilities,Quote:
Originally Posted by project_manager006
Assuming that the ML works night shifts, finishes no earlier than 3-4 am, goes home, goes about her 'normal life', sleeps at 9-12 noon, wakes up at 6 pm or so and starts her shift all over again at 7-8 pm.
Now, if you were able to accomodate these times, you will have a chance of having a 'normal relationship'. Basically, hanging out with her after her shift for a drink or late, late meal, possibly sex before 'bedtime' and so on.
If she is a day shift girl, you wouldn't have a problem. Times are aligned and chances of spending quality time are higher.
Personally, from my experience, I was working days waking up at 5-6 am or so, and she was just finishing up her shift. We would meet up for breakfast before I went to work. By lunchtime, she would be asleep. At dinner time, she would wake up and have a meal with me before she started her shift. this would be the 'norm' in my situiation.On Friday night, she would work til 5-6 am, I would wake up then and meet her. Drive out to the water to watch the sunrise before heading back after lunch for her sleep. After a month, she had left her work and I was 'supporting' her for the next couple of months.
From what I have told you, there is a high possibility of it working if you were after companionship. I wouldn't expect too much intimacy or sexual activity, seeing that it is what she would normally do 6 days a week. If you do have feelings for her, and is mutual, spend some quality time with her, if not, just enjoy the physical aspect of it.
If and when she drops her shifts, there is a possibilty that she chooses to have more time with you and herself. However, unless you are prepared to support her, be wary if she decides to 'quit' all of a sudden. She may expect you to 'support' her and her living expenses. In which case, could be seen as a 'business' arrangement'
Example: $300/rent, $150/incidentals = $450 a week, in return; say 3-4 x times sex a week. Now, this does not include meals together or 'outings' ie. movies, shows, short trips away, drinks
All the above is based on my experience, (from a past relationship) so please do take this with a grain of salt. I do not know your situation in entirety, but would be more than happy to offer 'suggestions' if you see that it is plausible.
Best of luck, pm
Your trying to spend some time with a korean wls outside the shop aren't ya?? Good luck on that..... Whenever they have a day off, they tend to sleep all day and all night, you'll be lucky just to get an sms from them let alone seeing them outside the shop........ These cock-juggling thunder-kunts can sleep sleep sleep zzzzzzzzzz and eat eat eat, they talk aggressive too. Wait for them to have a week off and maybe you might have a chance....Quote:
Originally Posted by project_manager006
cmk, thanks for being so open. Your story is very insightful and food for thought.
For me ,Just see her in the shop to avoid many hassles and bla bla thing. Love and Money just hahahaha,......
Whores fuck 200+ times a year?Quote:
Originally Posted by walkout
Forget about your bad english and focus on your bad maths!
Just say a whore works 200 days a year and on a 6 men a day shift thats 1200 fucks not including the bf or any other 1 night stands. If she is fucking 8 -10 guys per shift imagine that! You are dreaming to think a wl gets fucked 200 times a year unless she is part time/high class escort or mls giving out cunt for tips
Your non wl maths is just about right. Say you bang your Mrs 3 to 4 times a week then yeah 150 to 200 fucks per year.
so true. but doesn't matter. we also have 5 other project girls at the same timeQuote:
Originally Posted by hell no
I don't normally agree with Wilisno who preaches like Jesus from the mound. But this is the same opinion that causes me to want to stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
Stopping doesn't help them in any way, just treat them right !Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Impact
So lets just have a nice chat with them if we are so concerned? We can be life mentors!
Money is the issue/focus in this situation, no amount of life lessons can help them if it ain't about money...Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Impact
The root of all evil.