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She does have a sharp jawline and a biggish nose, especially for a Thai girl .... I can see the slightest hint of where the trains comment came from, but a wet pussy never lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeepImpact
I reckon she looks more like Emily from Entourage than any dude I've ever seen:
http://www.girlsfromentourage.com/pi...rmstrong-3.jpg
Well done Punter pootang,
That is a reasonable likeness.
All right guys,
Just to let you know I’ve been BLACK LISTED by Wilson.
Yesterday night, right after posting my AR I had a look at Ginza’s rooster to eventually go back there and not staying on a bad note.
So basically I was ready to spend my $$$ even after a bad punt. It means that I didn’t have anything again Ginza, I was just disappointed by the all rank stuff.
I saw that Catherine (mixed blood by the way) was back, so I’ve called Wilson and right away he told me that I couldn’t book any girls from his shop!!! He hang up and sent me a text confirming that he won’t let me come anymore. He didn’t like the fact I didn’t tell him anything after my session. To be honest I wanted to but a guy was standing there and I don’t to be seen by anyone when I go punting. I guess a lot of you will understand me.
I can’t believe it, that’s totally unfair.
I didn’t expect create such a thing by posting my AR.
I just wanted to share my experience, because after all this forum is made for that, to share our sex experiences GOOD or BAD.
I had a bad punt with Dolly, I didn’t find her attractive, I don’t think she gave me what I was expected and maybe my expectation were too high and wrong.
I don’t understand how come Wilson, that I respect a lot by being always so polite and very profesional, can justify the fact of blacklisting me.
I just tried to call Wilson now to have a chat but he doesn’t want to speak to me.
Hey Wilson, can we have chat???
That’s is that’s all.
This forum suppose to be for every punter who want to share their experiences.
I’ve just being banned from a shop because of it, maybe we should banned the shop owner from this forum.
noubroz :(
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Originally Posted by noubroz
well look at your AR, you were pretty harsh at describing the girl tbh...Quote:
Originally Posted by noubroz
As a new costumer at ginza, even on my first time with someone that have good reputation and all Wilson asked me how was it and tried to get feedback.
If you were shy because of another punter, why not call(text) him afterward or something before jumping into forum and describing your oh so horrible experience? :/
lol
A far from desirable outcome for all parties
I have just worked out a solution - Noubroz, I dont know you, but how about you pay for my next punt at Ginzas ?
Seriously though, I said in another post that business managers also being on the forum was a good thing, in that there is a level of responsiveness to reasonable customer feedback
Im stating the obvious - you cant guarantee satisifaction with each experience, but a business that keep the customer happy in the long run, will by definition be a thriving business
Your post was a very helpful one for a lot of people, and we all learnt good things about Ginza
Im pretty sure that the discussion you prompted, and the 1,223 hits and counting to this point that your post received, allowed a lot of people to understand a lot more about the Class ratings at Ginza
I for one, was much more likely to visit Ginza again after all the discussions
Somehow I dont think Ginzas owes you anything, but they also didnt deserve to blacklist you
Kinda makes me unhappy the manager didnt instead take your money to prove you wrong with your next experience, now that you are more adequately educated as to how Ginza ratings work
So where do you plan on punting now??? A lot of choices in the city with out the "confusing" ranking system. Good luck to you. Any other Ginza customers need clarification?
There is a bit of heat here. But my take is that this shows once again the amazing different experiences that punters have with the same girl.
Noubroz, unlucky. :-(
Sincerest apologies if me pushing the discussion led things that way, FWIW I was mainly referring to the posts of others subsequent to your OP throughout .... and honestly thought clarifying what I understood the class ratings to be reflective of would've been helpful to all.
That said, I also understand Wilson's position. As a regular customer, usually happy with services received and choosing to keep it to yourself (which is cool), I think the right course of action would've been to discuss it with him first before hastily posting a potentially damaging AR here. He's an approachable guy, and even if it wasn't possible right after the session, a call or text soon after would've been the way to go (as suggested by bro hairy).
Yes, blacklisted you already,
Not because you write a bad AR (I have already shown Dolly this thread), She has got her warning letter, Its a helpful AR that shows Dolly must improve her DFK otherwise she will be demoted or stop working.
But I did asked for your feedback when you leave, you give me a smile and thumb on your way out. Now its totally different.
Every client's feedback is important for Ginza, It will decide the girl will continue or no more. Thats why I ask feedbacks from each client when they finish.
Cheers!
Dear Ginza manager
Most readers of this post, 1,402 hits at last count (all potential Ginza customers) will agree the shortcoming described in the review, had nothing to do with DFK
The reviewer was clearly trying Diamond Class for the first time, and had a misunderstanding about what was available
Will readers of this post think more favourably about Ginza if instead the management clarifies the misunderstanding publically, and privately recommends to that customer a better choice for the future ?
That's a very positive reply Wilson.
Heatseeker, he is trying to run a business so he asks his customers for feedback.
If they give a thumbs up and then rubbish the business in public they should be banned by him.
anyone else think theres 2-3 fake account on this thread? XP
One is created long ago but no post (could be just a lurker that read/check roster)
Another recently joined but seem like an experienced punter (again could be legitimately new to forum)
Hmmm XP
I found Dolly excellent.
Very genuine, smart and attentive.
Prices are all relative....because in this shop they range from $140 or whatever to $290 per hour... At bluemoon/myoutcall the lowest is $300 up to $400 and LET ME TELL YOU, THE QUALITY GENERALLY SPEAKING AT GINZA IS FAR GREATER THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN SYDNEY AT THE MOMENT IMHO. I'm not bagging the other escort services because they have their stunners, but they also have had some pretty ordinary ones- ones that would get the silver prices at Ginza.
So the way I look at it, Ginza are honest, have photos and descriptions and even for diamond class, I'm $10-$60 better off than at Blue or Myoutcall. The latter do offer go service, value and are honest, but I'm just saying, prices are all relative!!
Dolly was 10/10, kissing was ok/reasonable, but it was good enough and I respect the girls preferences in any case, DFK or LFK or not. I also ask if they like this or can I do this/that; a bit of respect gentlemen please.
Wilson,
As I already said, when I left, someone was talking to you at the front desk and I didn't want to interrupt and neither being seen by anyone.
So to make it short and to not create issue in front of this man, I just smiled and waved at you.
I apologise if my description of Dolly was a bit harsh, maybe I should have used different words.
But it's a bit harsh from you to blacklist me just for an AR. I'm quite a regular client and I still want to keep coming see other girl$.
I respect your decision even if obviously I don't agree with it.
Cheers,
noubroz
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Originally Posted by wilisno
Agree. Grading on popularity probably a good way to do it.
But who knows how Wilson grades his girls in details...I find it is kind of based on age and face and rarity (mix-blood) so far, not service or popularity.
Bro nounroz. It is not your fault. It comes really personal feeling how the girl looks like. The way Wilson react just make me laugh non stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by noubroz
How do you feel if someone told you she is mix ( Perth mix Auckland).Quote:
Originally Posted by billionaire
Haha, not sure on this thread? We know there are some writers out there. Don't we?Quote:
Originally Posted by hairy1231
I think this is common. Happens on every forum. I am not surprised.
Not sure the purpose of your question. Do you mean aussie mix kiwi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepunt
I am a face fan. In my rating system, services sometimes even rank behind face. back to your question, it doesn't matter if she's mix-blood as long as she's pretty. In common sense, mix girls are prettier. But this is not always the case. Below are some instants.
Cassie is my favorite at Ginza (prettiest I think). Dinna (Aussie mix Japanese): the session was good, GFE good, just attractive looking though.
I haven't tried Jasmin (not as pretty as I expect) even though I know she provides nice services (not only good AR here, but also good reputation among my friends).
Now I am going to try Stellar, as one AR says she's like Tsukasa Aoi 葵つかさ (beautiful and innocent). But she's so popular and just work 4-5 hours a shift. Now she only takes one hour booking. I have to make enough money before seeing her. LOL
I just want to say. If you are my customer not happy with the service we provided, I will make sure you come again and my girls will fucking suck you dry.
Banning someone because they don't report back to the shop management but write a report or AR is bad business in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINZA
Does anyone who want to write a good report and not report to you first also get banned.
I doubt it!
Sounds like double standards to me you want to be on this forum then you got to take the good with the bad, all you are trying to do is influence what we punters on here write.
You are trying to control the AR's
Running an imaginary brothel in your head and running one in the real world are two very different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onepunt
there are few other bad AR here about ginza, none of them looked like they got banned.
But really look at this one, he smile and thumb up even though he didn't enjoy it just because he was shy of other punter there, but didn't bother to call/text Wilson to explain later. Then writing AR, he describe the girl to look like some trans... (which is very opposite to what other AR describe her ).
Pretty harsh. She is young too, imagine how she feels reading that from someone who acted like they enjoyed her services? human have feeling ya know.
If there was a forum for ML&WL describing their client, doubt you'll punt again if they describe how bad you look or how horrible you treat WL/ML.
Bad AR are fine but degrading the worker and saying that they didn't get what they pay for is not right thing to do. The guy got what he paid for with diamond class according description of the girl found on their website and here (he probably expected alot more).
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Originally Posted by noubroz
For those expecting CIM/COF and other extra to be included in diamond class, did you guys came up with the classification or Ginza owner came up with them?:anger:
Interesting thread.
It's like a good book i couldn't put down.
I think it was well with in the bros rights to post his views. As Wilson said, feedback is important, to us and to the business owner. The fact that Wilson got it through a negative ar I guess puts him on the back foot. He would probably have tried to rectify the issue before you walked away with bad feelings. He seems good that way.
Blacklist was a bit harsh. Goes to show how serious Wilson takes his shop's reputation. Maybe once it cools down you guys can make up again. Can see it from both sides.
Ethanhunt, its been a great post, and a lot of good has come out of it
Its certainly shown that you don't always get what you pay for.
I originally felt that CIM is a basic service when you are paying top dollar, but learnt that even Diamond Class isn't a guarantee of CIM. OK fair enough.
That's not saying Diamond Class can't include CIM, we just have to confirm beforehand.
CIM and appearance (which is always SUBJECTIVE) was the actual topic of the post, which then evolved to what actually does Diamond Class cover to justify the higher cost.
The explanation obtained was that Diamond Class women were more beautiful and more popular. Nothing else. Anything else had to be confirmed beforehand.
(For many guys seeing the elaborate rating system and not being able to just go with the flow and trust management, having to confirm exactly what is included, seems confusing. Although others are simply happy with the grading based on appearance/race - and thats fair enough)
What surprised me most, was that sometimes Diamond Class doesnt include DFK.
This subject only came out later, when a punter revealed Diamond Class DFK with some ladies may be an optional extra. This has yet to be denied by the manager, I think the class system makes it optional but am happy to be corrected :)
In my opinion, if you don't have DFK you don't have GFE, and I for one can do better that a premium cost lady who won't kiss me properly.
In that case, and this is just my opinion, no DFK just makes it feel mechanical. Maybe Im so used to making love with GFs previously, where there is decent kissing as standard, that I dont accept compromise at the premium level.
Again we just need to confirm with the manager beforehand