Shop Rankings at the top of Sydney - Let the debate begin.

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Originally Posted by ronni

Im a bit over ranking some shops as being more successful that others.
There has been poaching recently by one prominent shop, taking good ladies from other well respected shops which have more competitive prices
If a shop is having to poach, then that disrupts other shops that we also know and love.
Its not me stating this, others are noting a lot of poaching by one particular prominent shop, and jacking up prices. This is not a good development

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Hi ronni.

It’s a free market system, so if “one prominent shop” is poaching talent, it’s up to the other shops to respond. End of story.

Yes, it can lead to disruption at other shops. I tasted this “disruption” first hand at 42 Gladesville yesterday when I had a way below par experience for its usual high standards.

I was introduced to 4 very plain girls who were so non-descript I can’t remember their names.

I went with the papasan’s recommendation for me, a girl who didn’t know what she was doing, didn’t want to be there, simply didn’t care, or all of the above. I’ll write an AR when I get time.

My previous visit to 42 Gladesville was for Cici, who became one of my fucks of 2017.

She is now Yoyo at Ginza. Read her reviews on this forum.

Market forces at work.

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Originally Posted by Happyman2018

This shop may poach girls from different shops but the different is they turn the girls into pros by all means.
That make things whole lots of different.
Now those girls can go back to where they orginal came from but if they prefer to stay that make they think they got more opportunities here

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Exactly. And if this poaching shop is gonna pay the girls more to keep their standards higher, what’s wrong with that?

From a girls perspective, they earn more if they are willing to provide the standard service at this new place. It’s just business.

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Originally Posted by The Speechwriter

I tasted this “disruption” first hand at 42 Gladesville yesterday when I had a way below par experience for its usual high standards.
I was introduced to 4 very plain girls who were so non-descript I can’t remember their names.
I went with the papasan’s recommendation for me, a girl who didn’t know what she was doing, didn’t want to be there, simply didn’t care, or all of the above.

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You proved exactly what I was saying

Your experience is exactly our worst case scenario as punters

Agreed that this is market forces and business, and I said that. Just like higher electricity prices and petrol prices, capitalism offen means things start to get more pricey when some market players start to exert some dominance. And like these other industries, we sometimes just have to keep up with what is happening

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Originally Posted by ro7a7e

Exactly. And if this poaching shop is gonna pay the girls more to keep their standards higher, what’s wrong with that?

From a girls perspective, they earn more if they are willing to provide the standard service at this new place. It’s just business.

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From the punters point of view, if there is no extra recruitment, but instead mainly poaching, it has the effect of jacking up prices. Thats business as I said, but it also is not a nice development.
Its not just my prediction, read Speechwriers experience above

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Originally Posted by ronni

From the punters point of view, if there is no extra recruitment, but instead mainly poaching, it has the effect of jacking up prices. Thats business as I said, but it also is not a nice development.
Its not just my prediction, read Speechwriers experience above

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I don’t know, I think a lot simpler.

In my through process:

1) Do I find the girl on offer sexy? yes
2) Does she provide the services I’m after? Yes
3) Did I have a good time? Yes

Then I will part ways with my cash.

I don’t care where they came from, I dont care if they are new to the industry or old veterans.

Out of curiosity, what’s the difference in price your complaining about? We talking $10-20 or $50-100?!?

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Originally Posted by ro7a7e

Out of curiosity, what’s the difference in price your complaining about? We talking $10-20 or $50-100?!?

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I will leave that for others to state if this is a real price difference or not, and if this is an issue or not.
What does Speechwriters experience tell you? Everyone will have a different perspective
I said its early days and market forces prevail.

With or without poaching, in this internet age, girls know where they can make more money ! Either from talking to friends or from social media contacts !

If the girl is happy at one place, she won’t move shops, but no matter how popular a girl is at one place, eventually her number of bookings will drop when all the base customers of that shop had seen her, so it’s time for her to go. They’re here to work and make money, not just friendship !

I don’t think the act of actual poaching accounts for most girls movements !

BTW, poaching is not illegal, it happens all over the world in all businesses big or small, there are big firms set up for this service.

Another way to also look at it is,

would you rather work in a formula one motel with old dirty decor and sub par facilities while getting paid less

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Would you rather work in the Hilton with the fresh clean modern facilities while also getting paid more...

It does take a PHD to make that choice. It’s clear as night & day.

If anything, the others should step up their game and put some profits back into making their shops decor and appearance.

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Originally Posted by wilisno

With or without poaching, in this internet age, girls know where they can make more money ! Either from talking to friends or from social media contacts !

If the girl is happy at one place, she won’t move shops, but no matter how popular a girl is at one place, eventually her number of bookings will drop when all the base customers of that shop had seen her, so it’s time for her to go. They’re here to work and make money, not just friendship !

I don’t think the act of actual poaching accounts for most girls movements !

BTW, poaching is not illegal, it happens all over the world in all businesses big or small, there are big firms set up for this service.

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Early days. Lets see how the dust settles in a few months. No matter what, the new brothel is already shaking things up
Whether that is a positive or a negative, time will decide, but also your existing punting pattern influences whether you care or not
Shouldnt we choose parlours that best balance quality with value and manager responsiveness ?

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Originally Posted by ro7a7e

Another way to also look at it is,

would you rather work in a formula one motel with old dirty decor and sub par facilities while getting paid less

Or

Would you rather work in the Hilton with the fresh clean modern facilities while also getting paid more...

It does take a PHD to make that choice. It’s clear as night & day.

If anything, the others should step up their game and put some profits back into making their shops decor and appearance.

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Im looking at it from the clients perspective, Im a paying customer, not the employee.

Im an AirBnB person, not a penthouse suite Park Hyatt Hotel person.
Occasionally I will stay at the Opera House towers, but not regularly
But every punter has their own equally important perspective

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Originally Posted by ronni

Easy. Im an AirBnB person, not a penthouse suite Shangrila Hotel person. But every punter has their own equally important perspective

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Indeed. It’s as long as your happy and it works for you, then soldier on!

I’ve heard so many “positive” reviews of 533, and I’ve tried so many times. But just haven’t had any luck with the girls there and the place in general. Feels like your in squalor really. I would love it to be my regular shop cause it’s so convenient to me, but 4 fuck around from 4 attempts, no thank you. I’d much rather support places that treat me right.

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Originally Posted by ro7a7e

Indeed. It’s as long as your happy and it works for you, then soldier on!

I’ve heard so many “positive” reviews of 533, and I’ve tried so many times. But just haven’t had any luck with the girls there and the place in general. Feels like your in squalor really. I would love it to be my regular shop cause it’s so convenient to me, but 4 fuck around from 4 attempts, no thank you. I’d much rather support places that treat me right.

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Yes. Everyone has their positive and negative experiences. You sound like you also dont need to spend huge to have a great time.

Someone said that 278 Club is a joint venture between 5 Marrickville and Ginza which is why the 5 Marrickville girls work there.

Is that true ?

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Originally Posted by ronni

Yes. Everyone has their positive and negative ecperiences. You sound like you also dont need to spend huge to have a great time.

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Bro I used to spend on $800+ per hour chicks. Sure most were super hot, but really not worth it now that I’ve sampled the Asian flavors. Can’t say there has been any exceptional OMG best fuck ever types at that price point, and I’ve fucked a lot of them.

Have so many fucked up stories, ones that almost bring tears to my eyes when reflecting upon them.

But alas we have survived, and I’m in a good place now 😁

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Originally Posted by ronni

Well said. I never implied poaching is illegal. And as you say, often its the WL who tells others how good things are elsewhere.
Thats not my point.
My point is exactly what was almost immediately described by another forum member after my original post
Early days. Lets see how the dust settles in a few months. No matter what, the new brothel is already shaking things up
Whether that is a positive or a negative, time will decide, but also your existing punting pattern influences whether you care or not
Now if you love Ginza and Dreamgirls and 5* and other top price/service shops, there is nothing that changes. But others will notice a change in how they need to punt

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My point is you can’t single out a shop and blame them for poaching ! That’s the exact word you use !

Every shop has girls who worked elsewhere before !

Most girls move around in their own free will, that’s business.

BTW, I’ve never been to Ginza or 278

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Originally Posted by ro7a7e

Bro I used to spend on $800+ per hour chicks. Sure most were super hot, but really not worth it now that I’ve sampled the Asian flavors. Can’t say there has been any exceptional OMG best fuck ever types at that price point, and I’ve fucked a lot of them.

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If my punting choices are so bad I have to pay $800+, I must be in Queensland

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Originally Posted by Brothelcreeper

Great service friendly girls in everyone of these shops for the last 20 years without any of your Gold, Silver, Gold Premium, Diamond, Platinum baloney.

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You didnt mention Bronze service = standard service

What are the latest rankings of brothels in Sydney?

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Originally Posted by bodby

What are the latest rankings of brothels in Sydney?

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Don't need rankings. If you want Caucasian go to Liaisons, and Asians at Ginza will be your best bet.
If you want a nice room then Stiletto, though a newly refurbished "a touch more class" has just opened.

Quality of Girls
Cleanliness
Price
Decor.....
278 Club
Ginza
42 Gladesville
Marlenes at Alexandria
X-City
Sakura
5 Star City
Marrickville 5
Kyoto 206
Paddington 244
Totally Subjective of course :cool2:

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Originally Posted by bodby

What are the latest rankings of brothels in Sydney?

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Looks
1. Stiletto
2. Korean Angel (K student Jun real nice)
3. No.5 Marrickville
4. Ginza/278
5. Top 127, 5*, Kyoto

Service
1. Ginza/278
2. 5*?
3. No.5 Marrickville
4. Korean Angel
5. Kyoto
6. Stiletto
7. Top 127

*Did not include Dream Girl as they are gone I think. (Minhee and Gna easily some of the best looks Koreans of 2018 so far). So less choice for punters.

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Originally Posted by Brothelcreeper

Punterman's Westie ranking in terms of bang a WL for your buck..:shout:

1. 143 Marrickville $110 FS one hour
2. Yoko's Rydalmere $120 FS one hour
3. 45 George St, Granville $120 FS one hour with review discount
4. 12 Bellevue St, Surry Hills $130 FS one hour
5. Club 10 Guildford $130 FS one hour
6. 22 Rydalmere $130 FS one hour morning special
7. 102 Liverpool $140 FS one hour
8. 12 Euston St, Rydalmere $145 hr FS.

And I have had my cock sucked bbbj, licked lots of nice pussies, licked my own cum of their stomachs and DFK'd hundreds of beautiful, great service friendly girls in everyone of these shops for the last 20 years without any of your Gold, Silver, Gold Premium, Diamond, Platinum baloney.

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you make a great point here BC

Would agree here. I'm not a fan of the various levels/ever increasing prices of service bs. That's why places in the west like 45 George are a big no no from me. Just throw in the metallic paint and mats and get on with it, if you get my analogy. The most I have ever paid is in Melbourne $220 an hour, Christin, Japanese girl, fantastic fuck. I quite like the west and also shire as well. Lots of great value. Good fucks. I guess it's all where you are comfortable with. I don't mind 3 star venues if the women go the extra mile and if it can be had for $130 an hour, for me it's a winner, a bit seedy but that's ok, I have luxury at home..... So, TP 64, Christina 27 and 67, 99 Forever but it has lost it's sheen lately, 10 Guildford was looking like a walk away until Apple produced but on the whole it's a good venue just the girls are on the plus size 8 here and I have my own standards, the owner is a friendly bloke. I'm a big fan of a 1 hour punt to start, two shots, then kick on with a half hour second course, the expensive shops make this difficult for the wallet and it means you punt less, so just trying to explain my reasons. Sorry, that only one of these is a regular advertiser here, maybe more needs to be done to attract western Sydney shops to do so?

i havent been to kyoto in 3 years. was random avg joint with lots of ethnicities. noticed its making lists now. have they redone everything? top127 last i checked was kps but i beleive they went away from that