Ok. How did your friend meet this WL in the first place ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
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Ok. How did your friend meet this WL in the first place ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
From having sexual relationship before to becoming just friends is not progress, it's going backwards. What's after just friends then, shopping buddies? then taking bags for the girl? Giving free money for nothing?
Being friends with girls is the lamest thing to do.
Anything goes out there. I've met a Korean WL who actually married a punter, but this rare as hen's teeth.
It's not relevant how he met her because he knew she was a WL and had stated how she would openly discuss her working life and stories with him. The reason why he wanted to be friends with this girl was because he felt sorry for her after what she had revealed to him about her life. She had a really sad life as a child and teenager before starting work as a WL.Quote:
Originally Posted by CunningLinguist
She grew up with her Chinese father only (I don't remember what my friend said about her mother). She hated her father because he ran the household as if he was in the military and was overprotective and psycho. She had a real fear of him. Sometimes she would run away from him but eventually she had to return home because she had nowhere to go. When she turned 18 years of age, she left him and without any money went to a brothel where they took her in without asking for any details. She was a virgin and lost her virginity to the first customer at this shop. She cried when she did it for the first time but she stayed on and the job toughened her up to look out for herself. After renting for some time, she had enough money to buy an apartment. I think my friend also mentioned that she went to university or TAFE to complete some studies while still working as an escort. The job as an escort allowed her to move between cities like Sydney and Melbourne because of the agency's contacts. She tended to keep to herself and had few close friends. One of them was my friend.
I have read some of the comments here with some guys believing that my friend wanted to have sex with her that night. I will never know what his true intentions were but there are people out there who have empathy for others. They want to help people in some way. He told me that he just wanted to see her and touch bases with her only. There was no thought of having sex with her. As for the photos of her, they were not taken secretly. My friend asked a waiter to take a few photos of them together at the dinner table. In addition, my friend didn't send them to me but showed the photos when I caught up with him for drinks. This took place many years ago.
dont believe any of her shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
To give her the benefit of doubt, (sadly I still have faith in people) MAYBE she doesn’t really understand herself and genuinely believed what she said to that guy. And then when the calls come in, she does the opposite of what she’s been saying, but not because she was lying before.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcjesus
But at the end of the day, at least that guy has now gained a better understanding about that lady and will not waste further time and effort in maintaining that friendship.
Arigato
No money no honey
It is the truth for all women
But earning power for working lady makes it emphasis
Yes
i would consider myself 'friends' with a few MLs and WLs. It really isn't much different to becoming friends with a regular person. You become friends with someone because you might share common interests, have interesting conversation or become comfortable sharing information about yourself that you may not want to share with people in general. You develop trust.
i do however find that this can be detrimental to your punting with that particular WL. I had one that would tell me about her issues in her relationship with her boyfriend. On one hand, it is nice that she can trust you with sharing this information. The issues she had were around the strain caused because of the work she does and how he struggles to deal with it mentally and emotionally. I have gotten to the stage with this girl where i am more than happy to maintain a friendship l but don't really want to go see her anymore. Her boyfriend knows about some of her customers but she has never told him about me. She said she wouldn't dare to.
I told her a little while ago that i wouldn't be visiting her anymore. She wasn't happy about it but the friendship has seemingly become more important than the pussy. i just don't want to be the guy causing her boyfriend the anguish he is experiencing.
if u are single, you can afford it
if u are partnered, the relationship is going no where,dont start it for any reason...better move on for more happy time
I would not recommend being friends with wl cos most of them are not in a good place in their lives for any kind of healthy relationship. Most are depressed and do not have self love and respect. Unless you want to be dragged down to their level, it is best to treat them as one hour fuck buddies and not get too close.
Selling your body for money speaks of low self love and respect. Even sluts have higher standards and don't let any random man sleep with them. That's why people have a dim view of prostitution. Making love with someone who you do not love or have an aversion for is painful. Working ladies know it but they continue to suffer this hurt and pain cos they don't love themselves. They do it for money.
Many wl are emotionally messed up and damaged. Most come from broken or divorced families where their dad where hardly present in their lives. They do not have a male figure to love them and give love to. Their parent may constantly quarrel with each other and they feel no love or warmth at home. Some may be victims of sexual abuse by their father.
Let's take Jerry (Christmas) as an example. As mentioned on her blog, her parents divorced because her mon cheated on her dad. She suffers from a lack of attention and confused parental guidance. Her subconscious pursuit of men derives from an attempt to overcome her feelings of isolation and inadequacy. She starts by dating a few guys hoping to find one as good as his father but tire and end up being addicted to sex and attention. Her sensuality gives her power over men. Each men she has sex with validates her shallow self-esteem and existence. Because her father was hardly ever there for her, she feels invisible unless she is entertaining and impressing other people. Her greatest fear is being unattractive, boring or ignored. Without people fawning over her, she feels powerless. Her lack of self love also manifests as smoking, tattoos and piercing.
Her friend Victoria (M5) also known as Miranda (Kyoto) is less fortunate. Her father passed away when she was young and she has to work to support her mom as her brother has his own family to take care of. (I am sharing personal information since Jerry said that Victoria/Miranda is no longer working in Sydney.) Jerry was once upset with Victoria because she went to Kyoto without informing Jerry. After all the hard work Jerry put in to bring Victoria to Sydney and help her settle here, she felt deceived that Victoria just left like that. Truth is Victoria never had a fatherly figure give her such support. Victoria also don't know how to show appreciation for such support and has feelings of being unworthy.
Worse Victoria cheated my feeling. We never dated outside. She was having relationship problems back in Korea so she decided to use me a backup or emotional blanket while she was here. I was never interested in her at first but allowed myself to be seduced by her. I fell in love after she showed me her skydiving video. I thought she was sincere, genuine, sweet, soft and submissive type of girl who would make a good long term relationship material but I slowly discovered that she is an emotional train wreck inside. I was hurt when I found out that she had another lover in Korea. But her lover was unavailable, married to or dating another girl. Her lover promised to leave his girlfriend or wife for her but she knows he is lying. He just wants her as a backup. Fatherless daughters always look for men who are emotionally unavailable and replicate their father's abandonment.
Take my advice.Working ladies are in general emotionally unhealthy. If you are looking for a relationship, it is best to choose a girl who is emotionally secure and comes form a good family, one who has a good job and leads a fulfilling and healthy life, respect herself and you and one who keeps herself in good shape. Working ladies are the last people you ever want to have a relationship with.
Don't recommend
I would not recommend being friends with wl cos most of them are not in a good place in their lives for any kind of healthy relationship. Most are depressed and do not have self love and respect. Unless you want to be dragged down to their level, it is best to treat them as one hour fuck buddies and not get too close.
Selling your body for money speaks of low self love and respect. Even sluts have higher standards and don't let any random man sleep with them. That's why people have a dim view of prostitution. Making love with someone who you do not love or have an aversion for is painful. Working ladies know it but they continue to suffer this hurt and pain cos they don't love themselves. They do it for money.
Many wl are emotionally messed up and damaged. Most come from broken or divorced families where their dad where hardly present in their lives. They do not have a male figure to love them and give love to. Their parent may constantly quarrel with each other and they feel no love or warmth at home. Some may be victims of sexual abuse by their father.
Let's take Jerry (Christmas) as an example. As mentioned on her blog, her parents divorced because her mon cheated on her dad. She suffers from a lack of attention and confused parental guidance. Her subconscious pursuit of men derives from an attempt to overcome her feelings of isolation and inadequacy. She starts by dating a few guys hoping to find one as good as his father but tire and end up being addicted to sex and attention. Her sensuality gives her power over men. Each men she has sex with validates her shallow self-esteem and existence. Because her father was hardly ever there for her, she feels invisible unless she is entertaining and impressing other people. Her greatest fear is being unattractive, boring or ignored. Without people fawning over her, she feels powerless. Her lack of self love also manifests as smoking, tattoos and piercing.
Her friend Victoria (M5) also known as Miranda (Kyoto) is less fortunate. Her father passed away when she was young and she has to work to support her mom as her brother has his own family to take care of. (I am sharing personal information since Jerry said that Victoria/Miranda is no longer working in Sydney.) Jerry was once upset with Victoria because she went to Kyoto without informing Jerry. After all the hard work Jerry put in to bring Victoria to Sydney and help her settle here, she felt deceived that Victoria just left like that. Truth is Victoria never had a fatherly figure give her such support. Victoria also don't know how to show appreciation for such support and has feelings of being unworthy.
Worse Victoria cheated my feeling. We never dated outside. She was having relationship problems back in Korea so she decided to use me a backup or emotional blanket while she was here. I was never interested in her at first but allowed myself to be seduced by her. I fell in love after she showed me her skydiving video. I thought she was sincere, genuine, sweet, soft and submissive type of girl who would make a good long term relationship material but I slowly discovered that she is an emotional train wreck inside. I was hurt when I found out that she had another lover in Korea. But her lover was unavailable, married to or dating another girl. Her lover promised to leave his girlfriend or wife for her but she knows he is lying. He just wants her as a backup. Fatherless daughters always look for men who are emotionally unavailable and replicate their father's abandonment.
Take my advice.Working ladies are in general emotionally unhealthy. If you are looking for a relationship, it is best to choose a girl who is emotionally secure and comes form a good family, one who has a good job and leads a fulfilling and healthy life, respect herself and you and one who keeps herself in good shape. Working ladies are the last people you ever want to have a relationship with.
thanks for sharing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babaekid
god bless you.
Just don't do it. It will always turn out bad. If you can't stop yourself, at least retain the fake name, occupation and address and go half and half with expenses.
I’m not being judgmental or issuing a blanket statement. Most of these girls have deep scars from early childhood. Lack of a father figure, abandonment issues, childhood sexual abuse, trust issues, etc, which results in low self esteem, need for constant attention etc.
I will share my story sometime (it needs too much typing 😀) - I once got involved with a young ML who had abandonment issues and once she got really attached to me, I found it so exhausting. She needed constant attention and validation all the time. Eventually we broke up (she’s now married and is expecting a child soon).
Most guys feel they need to save these girls. They feel they can look after them and eventually make them normal. I’m not saying it’s not doable. It is. However, understand that it comes from deep childhood issues within yourself. It is called co-dependency.
The best sex in our life is not the best life partner. You need an adult to adult relationship for it to survive long term. Most of the relationships with these girls end up either adult to child or child to child relationships which won’t survive at crucial crunch times .
I find that being friends with ML or WL adds that extra bit of oomph into sex. That’s where I would stop. No further.
"If you are looking for a relationship, it is best to choose a girl who is emotionally secure and comes form a good family, one who has a good job and leads a fulfilling and healthy life, respect herself and you and one who keeps herself in good shape."
Yes, we all know that but why people just keep falling in love with the WL and then some got cheated and hurt, why not falling in love with normal girl above? If the WL's are not beautiful, pretty or attractive, would you fall in love with them. Of course not! So it is men problem. They know that it's not an ideal to find and have a serious relationship with the WL particularly when they are still working, but they still jump in like a moth into a flame, OH Well.
Not all WLs are like Jerry and Victoria, there are bad and good WL, the same as we punters.
Sex Seller and Sex Buyer, they all have their own problem. That why they need each other.
:cry:
I always respect those WL's who fulfill my needs.
So, if you really want to have a relationship with the WL's, come to the shop, become their regular and wait until they retire then propose to them, if they really love you, marry them have children and enjoy your life!:shout: Life is too short to worry, in the end we all become ashes. But wait, it's much safer to propose to the normal girl eventhough she's a bit boring and average looking. Well it's your choice. My two cents!
Because those girls know how to attract and keep you, while normal girls just do normal things, especially in the bed aspectQuote:
Originally Posted by mankind
Also, i don't understand why people thought that WLs typically have some sort of mental/life issues and resort to prostitution. Some WLs i know came from pretty normal, decent or even well off family, some are not even in for the money. The way some guys here thinking that prostitutes are some low level humans just because they either had bad experiences with them or never got their way with them is just disgusting. They are girls, treat them like a gentleman. If you get cheated by them, its your fault for being naive.
Excellent comments, that’s exactly what it is ! Except one point I don’t agree with : “ Treat them like a gentleman.” My take is : “ Treat them like ladies !” ;) ;) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Momoe
I know some girls who are from very rich background. ;) ;) ;)
No, no, no...Very bad idea...
Did it for 12 months, she always had some drama in her life but never cared to know or learn anything about me
We fucked a few times outside of her work but it wasn't as much fun & she was more excited & interested in shopping than fucking . So I've been fucking many girls at different shops to make up for lost time
The moral of the story is we guys are not that innocent ourselves. We go and visit a prostitute. What do the wl think of us. 2 wl have told they don't trust men because of what they have seen
Just don't judge them we don't know the full reasons why they work as wl. Just be careful and don't get too emotional with them. Go and have fun with them and be respectful and nice.
In my experience many girls have unique and diverse stories and not all fit into the stereotypical "messed up in the head" mold. I have found Asian working girls are a lot more likely to be normal than western girls that grew up here. Asian countries don't have welfare systems and families are pretty much on their own to be self sufficient and therefor have strong family support structures. This is why Asians are always so focused on money and being entrepreneurial, its a competitive society.Quote:
Originally Posted by kangheejeong
I have met girls who were living normal adult lives with a loving family when the father suddenly tragically passed away, the father being the bread winner. I know of girls who's families business failed and incurred debt, some have normal families that are just poor, the parents might be aging and the girls had to step up and support and send money back. Some of these girls are extremely mentally strong to be able to put up with the BS that's thrown at them and still making a plan for the future.
If you grow up during your formative years in a normal stable environment its very unlikely you going to be mentally broken or have deep underlying emotional issues, most of your brain development happens when you are a child. Sure they may be temporarily depressed and very likely not happy with the current situation, of course the job may take its toll if they stay in it for too many years. Some will just see this job as a means to fix the issues or maybe there is no issues and they just want to gain financial independence while they young and good looking. You see it a lot with Chinese girls, work, make money, buy a house, it's just a means to an end.
This is not worse than sluts banging random dudes they met at night clubs for a one night stand, at least WG are being entrepreneurial, in my experience sluts are way more messed up in the head.
Have you forgotten this is a sex forum...Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
This is a classic: 2 wl have told they don't trust men because of what they have seen
Not all WLs are from broken families, have drug, alcohol or mental health issues or have been subjected to sexual and physical abuse at the hands of family members. Many WLs these days are on student visas because they can't afford to pay their college fees by working in a restaurant and need to send money home to their families overseas. There are other WLs who are single mums who receive Centrelink payments but still require more money to supplement their household incomes. Therefore, there are other reasons why women work as prostitutes.
Damn post longer than war n peace lol