Covid - border closure NSW/Vic

However you want to cut the issue on border closures, simply look at the results. They speak for themselves. NSW is in precarious position and states that closed borders look great For some reason.

If we follow your rationale, South Australia should have opened its borders to Victoria weeks ago. They would in great shape now, wouldn’t they? Lucky for them you weren’t making decisions for them.

There is little doubt that if NSW had moved sooner, they wouldn’t be in the mess they are in. You can continue to be an apologist for the NSW government If you like but that simply ignores the facts.

Simple question - are you more likely to catch Coronavirus in Adelaide or Sydney? And why would that be the case?

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Originally Posted by quackm2002

However you want to cut the issue on border closures, simply look at the results. They speak for themselves. NSW is in precarious position and states that closed borders look great For some reason.

If we follow your rationale, South Australia should have opened its borders to Victoria weeks ago. They would in great shape now, wouldn’t they? Lucky for them you weren’t making decisions for them.

There is little doubt that if NSW had moved sooner, they wouldn’t be in the mess they are in. You can continue to be an apologist for the NSW government If you like but that simply ignores the facts.

Simple question - are you more likely to catch Coronavirus in Adelaide or Sydney? And why would that be the case?

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You are still missing the point. The issue with border closures which is where you were quoting the NSW premier was months ago when the borders were first closed. At that time there was absolutely no need for them to be closed Every state was in the exact same situation. And the NSW experience proves that very well, there was no restriction on people entering NSW yet NSW had the situation well under control even without border closures.

Then along comes the Victorian issue which changed the equation where one state was different to the rest. So a border closure was the right thing.

And hey give the personal attacks a rest. I ain’t no apologies for any government especially the NSW one, but in the issue of border closures they have done the right thing at the right time.

You are the one missing the point. The states were not in the same position and some closed borders because they didn’t trust the measures and management being exercised in other states. If you were in Queensland’s position and you saw the debacle of the Ruby Princess, you would close your borders too if you had any common sense. How could you even try to say they were in the same position - that is absurd.

If we follow your line of thinking, you will always be reactive, not proactive. The fact that states like Queensland, SA, WA and Tasmania closed borders shows they were far more forward looking.

NSW is in the position they are in because quite frankly, Gladys couldn’t rush fast enough to keep the PM happy. Well, what position are they in now?

Look at it from a binary perspective - plain and simple, would NSW be better off today if they had closed their borders? Yes or no?

Also, look at the decision by the PM to close parliament for the next two weeks. Politicians can be very responsive and proactive where their self- interest is involved.

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Originally Posted by brotherjim

I’m willing to bet a hooker with Covid will pass the virus to far more people than say a waiter that does a couple of shifts in a room with 100 people each time.

In the Hooker case assuming DFK there would be a near 100% transfer rate.

The waiter well they would have to touch cough or sneeze, touch something, then someone else would need to come in contact with that and then transfer to their eyes, mouth or nose so far less chance than directly transferring through DFK.

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The movement of microdroplets carries many viruses. We produce them when we talk loudly or breathe heavily. People around us inhale them and that’s how the virus spreads. Now scientists are discovering how the virus spreads.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...read-covid-19/

All of our fury at the initial Chinese cover up in Wuhan is moving on to the total fuck up down in Victoria. But I haven't forgotten were it all started. However you can only be pissed off at one thing at a time. I read in one of the weekend papers that officials from NSW Health e-mailed their concerns to the Victorian authorities about using security guards to enforce quarantine way back on March 28th! The e-mails were ignored. They didn't even reply. The hotels were the equivalent of a level three bio-containment unit, and meanwhile we've got Abdullah picking his nose guarding the facility. :burn: People have died and are going to die as a consequence. They have got blood on their hands. What sort of a dope is that dopey jug-eared dope supposedly running Victoria?

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Agree rooter, the vietamese have contributed a hell of a lot, and the hong kong people would be a definate plus big time. There are some immigation plans that have not been thought out properly, caving in to tbe bleeding hearts and yes we can accommodate some of the unfortunates but honestly our policy cant be focused on only that demographic. I know ill cop some flack but we really need bright smart people who accept an existing culture that is ingrained although not perfect that will offer an outstanding lifestyle and many freedoms if you are prepared to contribute by offering hard work and compliance to our constitutional by laws.
I want to see more of the kind that are happy to accept what we have to offer and i fuckin dont care what colour you are just have a fucking go mate this is the best country in the world and Aussies are the most tolerant and hardest working people in the world, fact

Let’s not get too sanctimonious. NSW has been just damn lucky. There have been article of lax controls in hotel quarantine in Sydney for months.

It’s a great photo in this article!

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp....4057a4592a692f

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Originally Posted by God Member

All of our fury at the initial Chinese cover up in Wuhan is moving on to the total fuck up down in Victoria. But I haven't forgotten were it all started. However you can only be pissed off at one thing at a time. I read in one of the weekend papers that officials from NSW Health e-mailed their concerns to the Victorian authorities about using security guards to enforce quarantine way back on March 28th! The e-mails were ignored. They didn't even reply. The hotels were the equivalent of a level three bio-containment unit, and meanwhile we've got Abdullah picking his nose guarding the facility. :burn: People have died and are going to die as a consequence. They have got blood on their hands. What sort of a dope is that dopey jug-eared dope supposedly running Victoria?

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Oh, ok I won't get too sanctimonious. I'll just revert back to my normal default level of sanctimony. :shout:
Actually the only images I had seen were of police guarding the hotels in NSW. What turkey here authorised this:
https://i.postimg.cc/c4Km1djK/7fae9a...998a901820.jpg

Check out the tiny stool they gave him for his fat arse. No wonder he's on the carpet.
It's laughable but serious. I read that this dude got the sack, but what about the people who authorised these clowns? Sack them too.

Sorry, wasn’t intending to have a go at you if it came across that way. I just meant we shouldn’t assume NSW has been perfect with the quarantine measures around hotels.

There have actually been a number of articles in the local papers over the past three months of people breaking quarantine, guards sleeping, not enough guards, really lax control over exceptions etc.

I love the picture you posted the most though! This guy isn’t even trying to pretend to be awake. He’s just crashed out in the middle of the corridor.

I don't think corona will resolve itself anytime quick - people are already too tired of the previous lockdown. Wouldn't be surprised if we get people saying their rights are being infringed like the usa