I wonder whether guys are still insisting on kissing and DFK be provided by the WLs. It would be risky now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
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I wonder whether guys are still insisting on kissing and DFK be provided by the WLs. It would be risky now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Risky already for going there in the first place. You know what the risk so do at your own risk.
What is the point in wearing a mask and you kiss - drop lit. Do it at you own rick.
You can't blame people for panic buying, even the Chief Medical Officer of the country Brendan Murphy is advising people to have 2 week's worth of food supplies at home, go figures !!
Anyone noticed that our PM is a dead set follower rather than a leader ??
Firstly , the Diamond Princess evacuations: too complicated, can’t be done! But as soon as the US had sent chartered planes to pickup the Americans onboard, suddenly, yes we can !
And for so long we were ( or at least some of us !) urging the government to take decisive actions to close our border or stop incoming international travels , no , too hard and it will hurt the economy!
But as soon as the Kiwi PM Jacinta made her announcement! Within 24 hr, our PM follow suit !
Well, it’s still better late than never ?
Just reminded me about the performance between the CEO of Macau who had been doing a brilliant job in leading the region to combat the virus from day one vs his very ordinary counter part from Hong Kong.
Scomo is a follow look at Wuhan evacuation Very hard to do then countries like Thailand/Malaysia/Japsn/uncle Sam/uk can do it faster then we can. He is just too relax and comfortable. She be alright mate attitude. Only the fire burn his ASS! Than he move. My feeling his Chief medical advisors are useless. I don't follow their advice anymore. I just learn from taiwan/Singapore/HK/China advice. Advice here is slow and the government is not proactive. Always wait and see.
Couldn't agree more !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
If he had better advisers he would be more proactive and not be a follower. He can't act on his own. He listens to his advisers and they are letting him down when the government should be taking action immediately.
His call and action are not up to standard in time of crises and emergency. We want him to led not to follow and waiting for advice. Is a judgment thing either you have it or you don't. He fail during the recent bushfire and now this covid19 a disaster is waiting to happen like italy/France/spain/uk/USA. We are an island nation quarantine and isolation is the best defense and take control of the crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
This did not happenQuote:
Originally Posted by studsg
I was at 7 Cowper St Granville today. The owner Linda said that business is down 50%.
He doesn't want to piss the voters off, so watch and wait , the problem is his teams of advisors, like when we had the fires, I bet his team were saying, stay and enjoy Hawaii it is under control, "she be right".Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
And why didn't the state get active more, no they left it for federal because they didn't want to upset anyone.
A good team should have stepped in till he was back, no senseable leadership anywhere in our system, and now same thing, leave it for the big guy to look bad
The government and the PM have to take into account what is also in the best interests of the economy. By closing all borders and not letting anyone in, they claim such move will make our economy crash. Therefore, it is better to let people get infected and eventually some people will die then let the country's economy collapse. They are not willing to do what China did that is tackle the problem head on with all resources and immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climax598
To be fair, he was always a follower until he accidentally became leader thanks to yet another of our Great Aussie Traditions, namely the Great Aussie PM Switcheroo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
It's not, like, anybody voted him into power or anything. He just got it because he was there and there was nobody else better for the job in Liberal.
what are the rest of the cabinet doing ? Shouldn't they be helping when he is busy or awayQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldfishMan
The Australian government is encouraging social distancing to reduce transmission which will enable health systems to cope. Washing hands and sneezing into elbows on their own won't be enough to extinguish the pandemic. The WHO is urging all nations to 'test, test and test every suspected case'. This is not occurring here because there is not enough equipment to go around. It is obvious and the government is aware of this that our health system won't be able to cope with this pandemic.
Not enough in most countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by cuteguy
UK NHS policy.
No testing.
If you've got symptoms stay home for 7-days. No Hospital, no doctors.
If you're not dead or better within 7 days or get substantially worse, then come see us.
Unfortunately I think you will be right. Councils are the zoning body to these establishments and the way they are ^assisting^ their staff with health and hygiene matters it is a wonder that any business is operating. The thought that workers will be out of a job falls flat when you consider airlines, cruise lines and a lot of hospitality businesses are basically closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by warwick1
I think any shop wanting to get in front of curve should be implementing temperature checking as a minimum. Update their cleanines and probably the most important, pray nobody who tests positive can be traced back to them. Stay safe everyone🤞🤞
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Originally Posted by retrospect
Well said, it's now all up to the respective government/leaders to manage their country's own fate ! Leaders who have the foresight/guts to implement immediate and more drastic measures/actions will be rightfully rewarded with less infections in their own domain !!
If the figures coming out of China is reliable, then the outbreak in China and HuBei should have been plateaued ?
In a more promising view, the numbers in S Korea and Japan have also seemed to be more steady in the past week sitting around 8,000 and 800 something respectively without the rapid rising like weeks before. So there may still be an Olympic happening in July, whether Japan will let everyone except the athletes and officials into the country would be anyone's guess. I don't understand why Morrison didn't go all the way in terms of shutting down the country for two weeks. Wait and see any longer will just make the matter worst.
The Chinese government media is now praising themselves in locking down HuHan and contained the outbreak. and think the world should thank them. As according to the Chinese propaganda, if they had delayed the lockdown for another week. The infected numbers now could be 3 times highers. However, the immediate response from some medical experts was that if China had actioned the lockdown a week earlier, the numbers would have been only one third of what it is now today (meaning 25K instead of 80K! ). take your pick.
So, should we do everything we can NOW ? or wait another week or two until our numbers exploded to thousands like Europe - then do the shut down when it could be all bloody toooooo late ??
The Coronavirus while could bring out some ugly and worst human behaviours - at the same times, it also shows us the best, I think I should share this:
This happened yesterday at Woolworths near work:
I was browsing the aisles trying to find some hand sanitizers for the office (there were none !), and walked past the section where toilet papers are usually stored, all the shelves were empty which didn't surprised me. What turned out to be a really heart warming and pleasant surprise was that a very older Aussie lady on a walking stick was quite upset and distressed as she can't get any toilet paper, then another middle aged Aussie lady from behind me said:
here you go love, take this, this should be good for you for a week (and handed over a pack of 10 toilet rolls, she has two packs in her trolley)
The old lady said, oh no, I can't take this from you, you must have family too,
it's ok darling, you were actually in the shop before me but you can't find the shelves, I was just walking quicker than you that's all, so please take this .
Oh, thank you so much, you are so kind, God bless you.
Now, if we do survive this thing, it would be largely due to this unselfish true blue spirits !
God bless us all.
Well said, they killed the Dr that was trying to help them because they couldn’t resist their urge of exotic animal meat. They can handle the crisis by having a communist autocratic government.
We can see now countries taken extreme isolation/quarantine are doing better than the relax attitude or don't care attitude. What we need now is all countries in the world to do their parts is isolation their citizens for a few weeks including not infected countries. Yes China, if the locals authorities are more open things would have been control better. I hope they learn and we in the west also learn the about our own problems. The western countries government is run by public opinion and afraid do the wrong thing so a wait and see attitude sat in. While a government like China opinion/news is too control you see the problem even if you are telling the truth you can be arrested. So people keep to things to themself.Quote:
Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR
Experience with wl/ml if you know them as regular you see how life is hard in China and control. The girls don't talk much on WeChat but if alone in room or going out you hear things.
Not sure if you can believe China numbers.
In Singapore, the last two days have been their biggest increases with 30 new cases.
Agree, the hobby is just not sensible at present. No point washing your hands six times a day then doing it.
All speculations, I know it's a threat but this is just creating panic among people. Its no way going to be like Italy for sure
And people complain about mixed messages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleck
Too many friggin experts.
We have a chief medical officer for a reason
Got a different view. Raise it internally.