**From Punting to Chemsex – Why I’m Finally Speaking Up**

2-3 years Dagestan and forget.

Thanks for sharing though op, hope you get through it.

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Do not dump all your friends, you need people.

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Why the soft approach?

We’re talking about a guy who is being controlled by a powder. A fucking powder!

He has no self control. Think about it, a bit of powder is controlling how his life unravels, he isn’t in control and neither are his friends. If they were they’d be taking nothing, no drugs, no alcohol and no junk food.

Too many people attempt to take the easy way out and never get anywhere.

You dump the current lot as they’re a bad influence and no doubt accepting of his behaviour. Wipe the slate clean.

I don’t see why he has to hang onto anyone who uses. Get rid of them as they’ll only reinforce his bad habits.

It’s a self supportive self perpetuating cycle. Very few make a clean break.

He either walks or succumbs and gets dragged back in.

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Originally Posted by justincase

You dump the current lot as they’re a bad influence and no doubt accepting of his behaviour. Wipe the slate clean.

I don’t see why he has to hang onto anyone who uses. Get rid of them as they’ll only reinforce his bad habits.

It’s a self supportive self perpetuating cycle. Very few make a clean break.

He either walks or succumbs and gets dragged back in.

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Nah bro, that's a stupid way about it. "Current lot" doesn't correlate with "who uses". What do you know about who the OP knows, his circle of friends? Do you know that his friends and loved ones use?

Without this knowledge you are in no position to give advice on who to dump and who to keep. Just stay the fuck away from that shit, as much as we all know you like to spout BS "advice" from your armchair or whatever you sit on.

PS I reckon the first step OP has to take is stay the fuck away from this forum. His sex addiction is entwined with his substance addiction. He has to realise this.
Now if OP really does stay away, that brings up the question.... Is there any point in continuing this thread?

I for one would hope that OP doesn't come back. Walk into the sunset and heal, brutha. All the best to you. As for the rest of us, you can shit fight all you like. I'm out of this thread.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Nah bro, that's a stupid way about it. "Current lot" doesn't correlate with "who uses". What do you know about who the OP knows, his circle of friends? Do you know that his friends and loved ones use?

Without this knowledge you are in no position to give advice on who to dump and who to keep. Just stay fuck away from that shit.

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His circle of friends are users I’d guarantee it. Club scene, rave scene, whatever, it’s everywhere.

If he doesn’t need money I’d suggest going to a place where he cannot be close to anyone that feeds his addiction.

Sign himself in and stay there till he’s clean.

Only he can do that.

Being soft and nice just doesn’t cut it.

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Originally Posted by justincase

His circle of friends are users I’d guarantee it. Club scene, rave scene, whatever, it’s everywhere.

If he doesn’t need money I’d suggest going to a place where he cannot be close to anyone that feeds his addiction.

Sign himself in and stay there till he’s clean.

Only he can do that.

Being soft and nice just doesn’t cut it.

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What if he has no friends?

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Originally Posted by Mark Cassin

What if he has no friends?

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With substances like lsd, magic mushrooms, Buddha sticks et al you can have a ton of 'imaginary' friends

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

With substances like lsd, magic mushrooms, Buddha sticks et al you can have a ton of 'imaginary' friends

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HaHa

Or you can imagine the WLs are your friends

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Originally Posted by justincase

His circle of friends are users I’d guarantee it. Club scene, rave scene, whatever, it’s everywhere.

If he doesn’t need money I’d suggest going to a place where he cannot be close to anyone that feeds his addiction.

Sign himself in and stay there till he’s clean.

Only he can do that.

Being soft and nice just doesn’t cut it.

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Soft and nice? Wtf are you talking about? OP probably got introduced to the drugs through a wl, not his friendship group. Becoming more isolated is terrible advice in a situation like this.
Do you actually have friends Vincent?

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Soft and nice? Wtf are you talking about? OP probably got introduced to the drugs through a wl, not his friendship group. Becoming more isolated is terrible advice in a situation like this.
Do you actually have friends Vincent?

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Perhaps Vinnie would rather have no friends than fake friends....just saying

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Originally Posted by andrewv

Some people become addicted to sex, just like addiction to alcohol or gambling. Drugs add fire to the addiction.
I strongly recommend looking up the "12 Steps" program.

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AA, GA, NA...

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Originally Posted by westsydneypunter

JBut honestly, it’s not quite for me. I find the vibe a bit depressing: we all sit around sounding sad. “Hi, my name’s Mark, I’ve been clean for 16 months now,” said in this flat, down tone. Mate, you should be proud! You’ve been sober for 16 months — that’s huge! Share that strength and give others hope. As for the “God” or “higher power” part, I can honestly say I’ve found that power in Buddhism. It teaches that we suffer because we cling to things that are impermanent — and letting go of that clinging is the key to easing the pain.

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Originally Posted by Rlks1

ItÂ’s not about sitting in a room sharing storyÂ’s and sounding depressed, itÂ’s about sitting in a room with people that have walked the same path as you trying to become better people

I still attend GA, after an unhealthy relationship with booze, cocaine and gambling, so itÂ’s very similar. IÂ’ve never felt so comfortable in a room full of people IÂ’d never met

You realise that itÂ’s not just you struggling, a lot of people are so itÂ’s great to support each other

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Like Rlks1 says, it's your peers, those that KNOW your experience, whatever that experience is. Sure, it might not be the full compound experience, but they know at least half of it. I'd say look for a different meeting, find a sponsor that you can bond with. When you get those urges, someone who you can call, can come see you, get you through the "night".

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

Perhaps Vinnie would rather have no friends than fake friends....just saying

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Yea, Justincase assumes the OP had no straight friends before he went off the rails (no disrespect), or that they all abandoned him when he did, or he cut them lose when he did. Obviously you cut off the enablers, but thing about TRUE friends is that they'll always be there for you. An entourage, not so much...

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

Soft and nice? Wtf are you talking about? OP probably got introduced to the drugs through a wl, not his friendship group. Becoming more isolated is terrible advice in a situation like this.
Do you actually have friends Vincent?

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Spot on - it was introduced by a by WL and not my friends.

Sounds like OPs mental health is all over the shop. I was like him once, but starting a dog walking business has done wonders for my finances and my mental health.

It always gives me a boost when the dogs give glowing feedback...

OP maybe something like my business for yourself can help you direct your passions and energy in a different direction. All the best

It got Tom too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz9nku_qp2Q

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Originally Posted by westsydneypunter

Spot on - it was introduced by a by WL and not my friends.

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Mate. I sincerely hope you get yourself sorted. Good Luck. All the Best.

Perhaps I should not say this but I gather the place where this all happened is Artarmon 90.
Just wondering which ML was the one that introduced you to the "Shit".


Personally I don't need any type of Drugs or Alcohol to have a "Good Time".

Have tried "Shit" in my younger years but some of the stuff out there nowadays. No Thanks

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I imagine the OP is taking ‘personal responsibility’ as part of his journey to wellness.

For him to name the shop and the WL would probably set him back.

No matter how you look at it, you were correct with “I should not say this”

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Originally Posted by Shitsyeah

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Have tried "Shit" in my younger years but some of the stuff out there nowadays. No Thanks

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Yea back in the day when "the stuffs" were actually properly good stuff. These days everything is made to double the original amount so your just getting low quality product, its also laced with god knows what.

Not too long ago a female friend of mine went to hospital via the ambos because she toked some with of her friends. She casually smokes but this stuff was wayyyy to strong and her heart beat was way too high for several hours that ambos were called to take her to hospital. You just don't know these days what's inside and what is laced with.

Point is.
"Drugs are bad... mmmkay"
Mr. Mackay ~ South Park

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Originally Posted by westsydneypunter

Spot on - it was introduced by a by WL and not my friends.

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Adam, Eve and the Apple 🍎

Everyone chooses their path.

Seems like money isn't an issue, I'd definitely leave Australia as I believe a new environment is low hanging fruit and a catalyst for change.

A good perspective is hitting rock bottom isn't something that happened to you, but maybe for you? And yeah, like GFM says, no value to be gleaned on this forum. Log off forever and be free.

Desire is the root of all suffering.