Audrey - Starfish princess

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Originally Posted by Business Class

Before reading this thread I was unaware that certain writers here are incentivised to write reports, but I am starting to see how not everything is as it appears. Some glowing reports are so well written and obviously taken some time to write that it makes you wonder why someone would spend so much of their valuable time writing it if there was nothing in it for them.

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BC, that I can remember no one has ever accused MOC of organising reviews. How did you come to this position?

Yeh, often I write a review and it takes as long as the actual session. I enjoy grabbing a glass of wine and honing my literary skills and reminiscing the great time that I had. To suggest that a well written review must therefore be a false one is ludicrous. As I've said before, most of us review many different agencies and shops. If you wish to start a conspiracy theory maybe start on those that only review one shop. But even then I believe the vast majority are real.

In any case, criticise the reviewers (breaking forum rules) and what will you be left with if they stop due to a lack of appreciation?

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Originally Posted by Max Impact

BC, that I can remember no one has ever accused MOC of organising reviews. How did you come to this position?

Yeh, often I write a review and it takes as long as the actual session. I enjoy grabbing a glass of wine and honing my literary skills and reminiscing the great time that I had. To suggest that a well written review must therefore be a false one is ludicrous. As I've said before, most of us review many different agencies and shops. If you wish to start a conspiracy theory maybe start on those that only review one shop. But even then I believe the vast majority are real.

In any case, criticise the reviewers (breaking forum rules) and what will you be left with if they stop due to a lack of appreciation?

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Max I never once mentioned your name in my comments nor criticized you but you seem to keep defending yourself. I noticed you took offence to CL's comments earlier in this thread too, and he didn't even have a go at you.

Ease up mate, and relax. By all means continue to write your reports and spend as much time as you like doing it. Hell, you can even make it your day job writing after reports, I'm not going to have a go at you.

Do you have a conspiracy about me defending myself?

When you mentioned well written reviews I knew that you could only be talking about me.

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Originally Posted by wilisno

If you've been here so long and you haven't been sleeping, you should know what I said was right, any negative comment will escalate to a full on riot !

And people need to read the forum rule no.8, avoid criticising the writer !

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Does rule no 8 also apply when a member writes a negative report and he gets criticized for being too negative? There are examples of that on here but those members that criticized are seemingly still around.

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Originally Posted by Business Class

Does rule no 8 also apply when a member writes a negative report and he gets criticized for being too negative? There are examples of that on here but those members that criticized are seemingly still around.

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Did anybody say he's not telling the truth, that he's working for the shop's competitions, or things like that ? If that happened, then it's violating the rules !

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Originally Posted by Max Impact

When you mentioned well written reviews I knew that you could only be talking about me.

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Sorry mate, I'd hate to tell you but you are not the only one on this forum that writes well written reports.

So again, I can't understand why you have felt like you needed to defend yourself on two occasions when the comments were not about you, either explicitly or implicitly.

No conspiracy theories, just asking questions that a reasonable person would....very simple.

Cheers

BC, I see that you don't get my sense of humour. But don't worry, that happens often here.

And I wasn't defending myself, just describing why I write.
I hope that it gave you and others some insight.

But seriously if those that have never written a review throw stones at those that write reviews where will we end up?

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Originally Posted by Max Impact

Do you have a conspiracy about me defending myself?

When you mentioned well written reviews I knew that you could only be talking about me.

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Yes good point, he must have been talking about you and your 'well written' reports.

Oh how I remember our dad 'Ultimate Impact' being quick to praise you for everything. Finished last at the swimming carnival 'you did well Max, the lifeguard let you swim a full 10 mtrs this time before rescuing you' I still remember him saying as we all laughed in the background. Spelt your name wrong on your English test - 'good job Max, you did well to arrive on time' I still recall him saying. And when you used to bring artwork home - 'well done Max, you are so creative' he used to say before whispering to us 'what is that he's painted this time?'

Good to see that you still know you are doing 'well'.

The point is that anyone that writes reviews puts themselves out there to be criticised and as you write more reviews than most you are going to be a potential target. I know we have seen a few common girls and our opinions aren't that much different on those girls at least even if the count of times the girls cum is - it must be something like 1 with me and 154 with you but it's still better than last year when I didn't get on the scoreboard. I eagerly await your review of the girl I recommended highly to you when/if she returns from holidays.

Finally, a breath of fresh air from my brother!

And I remember that I promised to let you see her first before I salivate all over her lithe body.

Sorry to hear about your bad punt brother 4some.

As a new punter i really appreciate the bad reviews to save money but most importantly a bad experience! Hopefully the punting gods smile on your future punts!

I would like to weigh into this thread by say three simple things:

1. Yes MOC girls have been inconsistent lately and this is from someone who has tried everyone of their girls currently on their website except the few Thai girls (nothing against Thai girls, just not my cup of tea lately);
2. However and unfortunately for us, if you want young Chinese students who are new and fresh in the market, MOC and MGD are the only two agencies at the moment. I have tried a couple of newcomers and they were not up to it. It was unfortunate that 18Modello didn't go anywhere in the event;
3. The market is there to be had if any astute business operator is out there. Competition will dictate the quality of their products.

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Originally Posted by Sergaent Brody

I would like to weigh into this thread by say three simple things:

1. Yes MOC girls have been inconsistent lately and this is from someone who has tried everyone of their girls currently on their website except the few Thai girls (nothing against Thai girls, just not my cup of tea lately);
2. However and unfortunately for us, if you want young Chinese students who are new and fresh in the market, MOC and MGD are the only two agencies at the moment. I have tried a couple of newcomers and they were not up to it. It was unfortunate that 18Modello didn't go anywhere in the event;
3. The market is there to be had if any astute business operator is out there. Competition will dictate the quality of their products.

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MOC used to be good, what went wrong ..

I would also like to throw in my 2c.
I personally take the information provided in this forum with a big grain of salt most times. It is true, a lot of the "reviews" on here are blatantly written for an ulterior motive and it is so easy to spot them. These are the ones that have post titles that are meant to attract your attention, and contain details that look OK at first read, but are really ludicrous of you think about it. Stuff like "I pumped her in doggy for 10 minutes, then mish for 9 minutes..." Or a full transcript of the convo with the girl are just bs.
However, even those types of posts are useful in some ways, you just have to know how to use them. Usually the descriptions of the girls are spot on, except for description of facial beauty. For that you just have to get accustomed to the taste of the reviewer. After a few punts, you'll know that a particular reviewer's taste is not the same as yours. So you use that to your advantage in the future.
The other thing is about negative posts. I personally value them more than the positive ones because there is a greater chance that they are truthful. That's not saying they are always right, just that you get the feeling that there is less of a motivation on the receiver to write that review apart from wanting to expose the truth.

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Originally Posted by Sifu

You're kidding right? The reason why this thread focussing on the negatives of the $350 agencies has received so much attention is because the vast majority of posts are positive or absurdly a sales pitch dressed as a review.

Im actually surprised this thread hasnt been deleted yet or closed! Past negative posts are regularly deleted so that those who do complain are the ones howled down.

Throughout the 10+ years Ive been on this forum its always been this way.

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You are absolutely right. and thanks for backing me up. I've been a part time contributor and long time lurker on this forum, but decided that I was going to take a stand on this occasion after being ripped off.

And whilst the overwhelming majority of the posts have been supportive of my stand, there are some replies whilst not attacking me directly, there are one or 2 posts that are subtle in their attacks on my review.

Audrey may well have given good service to other guys, but I know what happened with me, she was was the STARFISH EXPRESS. Afterwards, I felt so disappointed that I may as well have donated $350 to her. I can't comment on the other review that she received from Max - that was his experience and I am not going to question it. Similarly, I am sure Max is not going to question what happened with my booking with Audrey, which unfortunately turned out to be at the other end of the spectrum compared to his (ie sh_thouse).

However, with the support I have received on this forum following my post, it shows that it was not an isolated incident with MOC, and in actual fact if you count the number of responses in this thread about unhappy experiences with MOC, I would say that they would be equal to, if not more than the positive reviews we see posted in the other current MOC threads.

I'd love to see what would happen if I set up separate threads for each of these negative reviews (after all MOC has links for good reviews), but I'm not game to do that for fear of offending somebody.

Hey bro checkout tedys Page on the moc website. It looks like moc mgmt dropped tedy to $ 320 from 350. Again beauty is subjective but I feel somewhat vindicated lol

Note to moc. A goddess like porya used to be charged out at 350not that long ago. Can you honestly say any of the current line up are even close lol

I would say don't bother with the complaint hotline because there is no response. The best way to communicate with MOC on negative feedback is to post it here for all brothers to see. Although I didn't get any compensation or refund from my negative experience (and that's even after MOC Management sent me a PM to say that they will do something special for me after I made all those noises), it did help to raise their standard of their amenities. I have visited them twice since my complaint and the places were clean. MOC James is very good. MOC just need to make sure the girls deliver!! I didn't post reviews because they were just average experiences, not overly negative, but not so good that I wanted to rave about, with the girls.... nothing to write about....

I was also almost convinced by the flood of good reviews. I don't think lowering the price $30 is the issue. If punting wasn't a bit underground, any businesses with false or misleading advertising would be in trouble with the consumer authorities. For me, it's not so much about the goods or the price don't match the description, its the time and effort involved. If I punted every day or every other day, I am sure I could put the odd bad experience down to bad luck.
Unfortunately, time and money are important to me. I would say $300-$350 is in the upper middle range. For this amount I like to think I am getting, 1.The time I paid for. 2. The services advertised (or close to). 3. The quality of lady advertised. Sure, every so often the clouds don't align and things do not work out well, however when none of these items match up something is wrong. The fact 4some took the trouble to go back to management and it appears to have eloquently expressed his concerns with what appears to be almost no recompense is concerning. A business that depends on service needs to handle customer complaints well.
On another tack I am concerned about the slanging match between the Impact brothers. I thought they were best of friends until this. I hope all will be sorted at the next family BBQ and Max's excellent reviews will keep on. He did entice me to see Tina at bargain escorts and I am eternally grateful, even though I think he has a permanent booking and I haven't been able to get a third appointment

I think that there is obviously something very important missing from this thread; no response from the shop. I know that no shop is obliged to respond to comments on this forum however, with the multiple negative comments now entering it's third page, I would think it would be good business for the shop to respond with their view or what action, if any, they have taken. I have seen other shops respond on this forum to negative reviews and they have been very quick to get on and rectify the situation publicly. It makes for good business, I'll I get the impression of at the moment is that MOC really doesn't care whether they have provided a value for money service or not.

Hey Deep and Max are not fighting! Where did you get that impression? I enjoy our conversations.

I must be lucky at MOC. I've visited a spate of girls there in the last few weeks. I mentioned that one was poor- I didnt post about her but did complain and she is gone. I also got a credit/refund.

Maybe it's that I've been the first guy to see most of these girls or they've been seasoned good performers (such as SK).

The rooms are nowhere near as Bluemoon's top quality.

I suggest that all you guys that say you had a poor experience post your reviews in future if that's your opinion. I rarely get a poor experience and it's usually because the girl is sore from overworking.