Finding a wife partner in a shop

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Originally Posted by aussiegaigin

The difference here is that being a waitress does not have the same "social stigmas" as being a WL.

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She has her clothes on and does no engage in sex with customers in the restaurant unlike a WL who does the opposite for money.

I have alot of friends, and know lots of ladies in the massage industry. Most of them already have husbands, partners and boyfriends and truly have no interest in the customer except for the cash you have. Many say they are single just to get you interested and keep coming back to give them more money. The few that are really single, especially chinese girls who do show "interest" are only focused on one thing that is a PR without having to pay for it. Don't be fooled to thinking they have interest in a relationship if you meet them in a shop. Another of times they do sit there laughing at customers once they have left. Treat it just as a transaction nothing more.

Hey guys

I never really post but perhaps my experiences might be of interest to some of you. Apologies if I dont use the correct lingo. I'll keep it short and simple...

Began seeing a Chinese WL in the shops a long time ago. I "followed" her all over Sydney and used to have 1, 2, sometimes 3 hour sessions (most of it was just "hanging out"). We began to see each other outside of work (she continued to work as WL however). She took me to China to meet her family. I had a blast! It was awesome. Sadly, a year or so later we mutually decided not to get married. No regrets at all.

A couple of years later began seeing a Korean WL. Same pattern as above but with some differences. We went to Korea 3 times to see family and we got married. She was still a WL right up till a month or so before the wedding. I look back and think that was pretty F'ed up. Stayed married for a number of years but my salary couldn't keep up with the "i want that $2000 bag" lifestyle, especially after quitting the WL work. The marriage ended. Oh the stories I could tell but wont. I was devastated but in the end, it was a blessing.

Stopped using WL services for a number of years and now just use ML services. Been seeing this ML lady exclusively lately. I should just be $$ to her but I can sense its moving beyond that. I thought I was safe but I can feel its beginning again...

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Originally Posted by sydcj

Hey guys

I never really post but perhaps my experiences might be of interest to some of you. Apologies if I dont use the correct lingo. I'll keep it short and simple...

Began seeing a Chinese WL in the shops a long time ago. I "followed" her all over Sydney and used to have 1, 2, sometimes 3 hour sessions (most of it was just "hanging out"). We began to see each other outside of work (she continued to work as WL however). She took me to China to meet her family. I had a blast! It was awesome. Sadly, a year or so later we mutually decided not to get married. No regrets at all.

A couple of years later began seeing a Korean WL. Same pattern as above but with some differences. We went to Korea 3 times to see family and we got married. She was still a WL right up till a month or so before the wedding. I look back and think that was pretty F'ed up. Stayed married for a number of years but my salary couldn't keep up with the "i want that $2000 bag" lifestyle, especially after quitting the WL work. The marriage ended. Oh the stories I could tell but wont. I was devastated but in the end, it was a blessing.

Stopped using WL services for a number of years and now just use ML services. Been seeing this ML lady exclusively lately. I should just be $$ to her but I can sense its moving beyond that. I thought I was safe but I can feel its beginning again...

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Thanks for posting your experiences, Syd.
I couldn't tell from what you've written whether you enjoy being in relationships with working girls (and therefore you seek it out) or you just happen to get into those situations.

I think one of the biggest problems with being in a committed relationship with a working girl is the term "living within your means" because the potential of the "means" part for them is different from what it is for someone who has never been in the industry.
They've seen all the money that they can get from the work, they know they can do the work, so they will always use that level of income as the watermark for their "means". If you marry them, get them to stop working, and you cannot / will not provide anything close to that level of spending power, then it is not good enough.
Letting them continue working (and let's assume you can handle the cuckolding) is not a solution either. She will eventually see you as not up to her wants and needs. A husband that lets her wife get fucked by other guys for money so he doesn't have to pay that same amount of money... That's a pimp!
So let's be realistic here. What kind of person can successfully pull it off from a financial point of view? I mean, to be able to take a WG as a wife and still be able to provide the same "good life" to her and not go broke in the process. I reckon even if you were a single professional, like a specialist doctor or lawyer, with $500k/annum gross income, you'd still struggle to sustain it.

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Originally Posted by asgard

I have alot of friends, and know lots of ladies in the massage industry. Most of them already have husbands, partners and boyfriends and truly have no interest in the customer except for the cash you have. Many say they are single just to get you interested and keep coming back to give them more money. The few that are really single, especially chinese girls who do show "interest" are only focused on one thing that is a PR without having to pay for it. Don't be fooled to thinking they have interest in a relationship if you meet them in a shop. Another of times they do sit there laughing at customers once they have left. Treat it just as a transaction nothing more.

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Yes I agree. I have mainly been seeing Chinese girls over the past 3 years and can say that most are looking at getting PR. One WL I know has no interest in getting into a relationship at the moment for the purposes of getting PR as she is just enjoying her single life right now.

Her plan is to leave the industry, meet someone outside of the industry, hopefully it is true love, get married then start the process of PR. I agreed with her and said that is probably a better idea because honestly, meeting someone in a shop like myself is not good start. Don't know how to explain it but I think it's because the girls want to disassociate themselves from ever working in a brothel once they leave. I mean think about it. I am a punter having sex with different girls and then you start a relationship with a WL. Hope I make sense lol.

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Originally Posted by sydcj

Hey guys

I never really post but perhaps my experiences might be of interest to some of you. Apologies if I dont use the correct lingo. I'll keep it short and simple...

Began seeing a Chinese WL in the shops a long time ago. I "followed" her all over Sydney and used to have 1, 2, sometimes 3 hour sessions (most of it was just "hanging out"). We began to see each other outside of work (she continued to work as WL however). She took me to China to meet her family. I had a blast! It was awesome. Sadly, a year or so later we mutually decided not to get married. No regrets at all.

A couple of years later began seeing a Korean WL. Same pattern as above but with some differences. We went to Korea 3 times to see family and we got married. She was still a WL right up till a month or so before the wedding. I look back and think that was pretty F'ed up. Stayed married for a number of years but my salary couldn't keep up with the "i want that $2000 bag" lifestyle, especially after quitting the WL work. The marriage ended. Oh the stories I could tell but wont. I was devastated but in the end, it was a blessing.

Stopped using WL services for a number of years and now just use ML services. Been seeing this ML lady exclusively lately. I should just be $$ to her but I can sense its moving beyond that. I thought I was safe but I can feel its beginning again...

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An actual marriage with a WL, that’s dramatic!

And coming from a foundation member’s first post too, thanks for sharing sydcj!

Hope you found peace, happiness and love, wherever it might be !

Cheers

WLs face many dilemmas when looking for a serious relationship.
They want to meet someone who is NOT a punter for a serious relationship.
They generally don't respect punters (they see them as either losers or not being loyal to one woman) and want to avoid a serious relationship with them because a relationship that starts off by someone paying to use your body is contaminated from the start and they know that.
The problem is that because of their lifestyle it's hard for them to meet "normal" guys in "normal" situations and locations.
Also a punter knows their current or past job and they don't like that.
But a non-punter will most likely not want them if they know their current or past job, so they have to keep it secret and that is stressful because they are in constant fear that their past will be exposed at some stage.
So sometimes yes, they end up with punters, simply because there are not many other options, but 90% of the time these relationships fail.
Of course if they just want a sugar daddy, Permanent Residency etc then they will probably just settle for any naïve sucker who comes along.

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Originally Posted by rooter

WLs face many dilemmas when looking for a serious relationship.
They want to meet someone who is not a punter for a serious relationship.
They generally don't respect punters (they seem them as either losers or not being loyal to one woman) and want to avoid a serious relationship with them because a relationship that starts off by someone paying to use you is contaminated from the start and they know that.
The problem is that because of their lifestyle it's hard for them to meet "normal" guys in "normal" situations and locations.
Also a punter knows their current or past job and they don't like that.
But a non-punter will most likely not want them if they know their current or past job, so they have to keep it secret and that is stressful because they are in constant fear that their past will be exposed at some stage.
So sometimes yes, they end up with punters, simply because there are not many other options, but 90% of the time these relationships fail.
Of course if they just want a sugar daddy, Permanent Residency etc then they will probably settle for any naive sucker who comes along.

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Couldn't have said this better my self

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Loving the insight everyone is providing. Its bringing me back to reality.

It's all a fucking nightmare.
Don't get into it if you can.
If you're in, just be prepared.
But sometimes you can't control what your emotions want, so just enjoy the ride.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Her plan is to leave the industry, meet someone outside of the industry, hopefully it is true love, get married then start the process of PR. I agreed with her and said that is probably a better idea because honestly, meeting someone in a shop like myself is not good start. Don't know how to explain it but I think it's because the girls want to disassociate themselves from ever working in a brothel once they leave. I mean think about it. I am a punter having sex with different girls and then you start a relationship with a WL. Hope I make sense lol.

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I've heard this from a WL I liked and wanted something more.

She told me that after the leaves the job she will bury her past and will not look back.

She's done it, totally left that life, doesn't talk to anyone from those years.

I saw her in the city a few years back and she was unrecognisable, different hair, hat, sunglasses and no makeup. I was like wow that's her. She didn't see me look at her trying to figure out how I knew this girl.

This girl also told me she doesn't want a guy, she had three dogs at the time.

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Originally Posted by Riff888

I've heard this from a WL I liked and wanted something more.

She told me that after the leaves the job she will bury her past and will not look back.

She's done it, totally left that life, doesn't talk to anyone from those years.

I saw her in the city a few years back and she was unrecognisable, different hair, hat, sunglasses and no makeup. I was like wow that's her. She didn't see me look at her trying to figure out how I knew this girl.

This girl also told me she doesn't want a guy, she had three dogs at the time.

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That's really good Riff she managed to escape.

The thing is bro my regular was telling me about all the married men that see WL's for sex. She knows the guys that see her are not relationship material because of what they do and I know its hard to say, and despite myself being single, how could she date someone like me if she does decide that ? The relationship is basically tainted from the get go. I mean I don't have a problem with it and totally understand her point of view but if it really did come down to dating, and she was willing to quit, I would definitely quit punting.

If for whatever reason she decides to go back to China or leave the industry, that is my punting career done and dusted. I'm at the point where I'm just tired of punting but not when I see my regular in a weird way. Currently at the moment, we are just friends. There is a lot of personal stuff going on with her that I won't talk about. Basically her life right now is very complicated.

Any relationship from this start is doomed for failure

A WL I've been seeing a bit of lately has been telling me a bit of her story.
She met a guy a number of years ago through her work. He was a client but they fell in love and married. He was 20yrs older than her and accepted her past history.
She left her WL career and settled into married life. Unfortunately after a few years of marriage the guy suffered a heart attack and died.
So due to financial pressure she has resumed her past career. A very sad story really.
If the guy was still alive she would still be happily married and not back on the job.

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Originally Posted by CountryPunter

A WL I've been seeing a bit of lately has been telling me a bit of her story.
She met a guy a number of years ago through her work. He was a client but they fell in love and married. He was 20yrs older than her and accepted her past history.
She left her WL career and settled into married life. Unfortunately after a few years of marriage the guy suffered a heart attack and died.
So due to financial pressure she has resumed her past career. A very sad story really.
If the guy was still alive she would still be happily married and not back on the job.

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It is a sad story but didn't he have any assets to pass on to her like a house, car or super?

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Originally Posted by Riff888

It is a sad story but didn't he have any assets to pass on to her like a house, car or super?

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Haven't got the full story, but it sounds like his assets were divided amongst some of his other family members. They were only married for about 4 yrs before he died.
She did get something but not enough to support herself for the rest of her life. She is only in her 40s now so working hard now to build a nest egg.

lol. of course you should only date the girls who connect with you. And make sure she like you as well. After 2 years you still haven't fuck her. I would have gone mad. you have to fucked her to be close to her. Her culture. what nationality is she a Muslim.

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Originally Posted by annndy

If you really want a girlfriend I'd say go for whoever you connect with, be it WL, ML or normal girls not from these industries. However, remember that all women have similar traits - if they really like you they may open up to you at first then slowly test your patience for a long time before allowing you to progress towards the next step. Those ones I'd avoid are:

- Kisses you on the lips/DFK so passionately even though you've only met for the first time
- non-WLs (MLs & normal girls) that invites you over for sex in a very short period of knowing each other
- talks about sex 80% of the time
- questions your job & income level rather than income stability
- looks down on men who lack some sort of status

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That's some quality advice there.
Glad your current relationship is going well.

I think it’s time they do a re run or even better a re make of the TV series: Satisfaction !!

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Originally Posted by annndy

Some people are well known liars, saying a lie in order to try and make people think highly of them.

Some people however, do experience things in life like a typical TV drama but choose not to tell it to the world.

I dated a WL a while back. She used to work in a popular shop but wasn't really a popular girl. The problem with her is that because of the amount of money she's making, and this job being her first and only job here in Australia she couldn't grasp the reality that not everyone in this country earns enough money to afford seeing WLs on a daily basis. Her spending habits had also changed from the first day she got into this country so that was the motivating factor for me to end the relationship.

I haven't been in contact with her for a while but I was surprised that although her ads were around (she was doing private during lockdown) but the phone number is inactive. And she actually deactivated her personal WeChat account as well.

It doesn't really matter to me anymore if she still exist or not as I am seeing someone whom I've known for almost 2 year now. If I knew that we're meant for each other at that time I wouldn't have dated that WL.

Dating WLs is probably something I wouldn't repeat if I become single again in the future. WLs are very complicated in nature due to their line of work.

If you really want a girlfriend I'd say go for whoever you connect with, be it WL, ML or normal girls not from these industries. However, remember that all women have similar traits - if they really like you they may open up to you at first then slowly test your patience for a long time before allowing you to progress towards the next step. Those ones I'd avoid are:

- Kisses you on the lips/DFK so passionately even though you've only met for the first time
- non-WLs (MLs & normal girls) that invites you over for sex in a very short period of knowing each other
- talks about sex 80% of the time
- questions your job & income level rather than income stability
- looks down on men who lack some sort of status

My current partner is someone I would call a hidden gem. Till today she wouldn't let me have sex with her but she compensates towards our relationship by giving me NHJ whenever we're together. She may have been an ex-ML, not sure about it though I care less about her past. And for the past year and a half of receiving her special care she actually learned edging - something I will never experience in shops (unless I wasn't lucky enough to find a shop with such service). I'm not sure if she's still a virgin, didn't get the chance to stick my finger in her although she'd let me touch her labia but it's probably her culture to not have sex before marriage just to make sex a special thing only to be enjoyed during marriage.

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Mate, you've had no action for 2 years with this girl and you don't even know whether she is a virgin or not or what is the reason for not letting you in. What are you thinking? She sounds like some goodie goodie girl who is really wearing you out with the long wait of celibacy. As Stiffler in American Pie said 'it sounds like a lot of work' keeping her happy and interested while she does nothing to please you.

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