Market Research: is there a market for ladyboy in a RnT shop ??

These lots may not be all rated 10 out of 10 in looks but I will imagine some of them could turn a few heads!


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There are a lot more positive comments from members in the other forums, may be due to the fact a poll is being taken there, but I think it will be worthwhile seeing other perspectives on the matter !!

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Originally Posted by after2ndlife

My answer would be Yes. It will need to be transparent about their status and availability.

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Originally Posted by hard

Regardless of the voting on this forum, there's definitely a place for transsexual workers... just look at the listings on sites such as backpage. For whatever reason, the activity is increasing exponentially and those reasons could perhaps be explored on another thread.

There are traditional brothels already advertising - eg. at Cromer in Sydney's north. There are other shops where LBs work at different times. But possibly due to a vague fear of being judged by others who appear opposed to such fun, reviews appear less frequently. There are a number of punters here who indulge... self included... who derive significant enjoyment from the occasional 'walk on the wild side'. Whether that would extend to massage only remains to be seen. The self-declared "players" would probably not want to stop at RnT!

From my own perspective, a good massage and hand relief is enjoyable regardless of the gender of the service provider. For example, a few days ago I had a fantastic massage and surprise perfect tug from a masseur (as distinct from a masseuse, for the spelling-challenged) at a relatively new shop. Quite unexpected but I just went with the flow... most enjoyable.

Suspend judgement, ye doubters... :lol:

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Originally Posted by banger

Yes totally agree different strokes for different blokes, it can certainly scratch the itch for those who want it scratched and as someone who has ventured down the other paths as others on this and other forums do I think it will definitely float, as it has already floated my boat, tell me where and when so I can sample the wares.

Happy punting all

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Originally Posted by Chalk010

Lungor,

I think you have your answer, it seems a yes, in which case please make your recommendations to your friend, and then let us know which shop is offering this extra service.

Cheers

Chalk

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Originally Posted by Isis

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

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Hi sister, you may or may not have read the OP, I did declare right from the start that I am a no voter to the topic !

Was only doing a favour for my friend to see some feedback in the market to know what can she expect when she does employ a LB or a trans .

While I am not interested myself, I am at peace with any one who cares to try ! It is not necessarily a gay thing, it's just something different or curious to some people I guess !!

Some people earlier was saying let him know which shop it is and he will stay away. Something he didn't know though it's that a lot of wild things that happened behind closed doors! RnT shops or FS shops are alike .

While we should always respect everyone privacy and not pass judgement . Sex and sexual gratifications is a basic human needs and human rights, as long as they are performed or conducted between consenting adults, It is really none of everyone else business.

My two cents

Cheers

I think there is a lot of unnecessary machismo nonsense about this. If it's not for you, say so, and that's fine, but all this talk of "disgusting, perverted, fucked up" etc etc is judgemental bullshit frankly. If it's not your cup of tea, all good, but for some people (I'm not one, never tried, but seeing as we only live once I may be coerced to try a rnt from a pre op or post op, depending on how hot she was, but at the same time when faced with it I may decide it's not for me also) it is, and it seems like quite a few judging by those who ahlungor said pm'd him and what Isis said, as well as just how many there are in places like Singapore, Bangkok etc.

So how about we refrain from the childish name calling, yeah?
You do realise that to a percentage of the population, we here are already deviant perverts? So why would we be vociferous in our own defence, yet those that may have a little fetish, and open to the idea of seeing what it is like, oh man THEY are the animals! Sounds hypocritical to me.


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This is Harisu, she was born a male. If she were peeling down your jocks and asked if you wanted a hj, how many of you would say no? Be honest? Some of you may well have already had a hj from a LB and not even know, it does not make you gay. And so what if you are bi? IS that such an awful thing?

And while some of you say homosexuality repulses you, you do realise lesbians are homosexuals right? By watching lesbian porn you are in to gay porn, yeah? I am not in to watching guys on guys, I'll be the first to admit, but I'll not judge those that are. I know guys who think looking at porn where you can see another mans cock is gay. Think about it, you are watching another mans penis and watching him cum and it makes you cum. EH GADS! And then if you're watching a gangbang, there's only one female and multiple guys! Multiple cocks! Hmmmm. In a place such as this, each to their own, as long as nobody is hurt and no (serious) laws are broken...

Let's quit some of the archaic stereotyping. I didn't see anywhere that said by getting a rnt from said ladyboy suddenly you would be giving them a bbbj. And this talk of dirty old poof weirdos, I couldn't agree more with what Isis said, another stereotype based in our own fears and conditioning, let's be honest, where are you more likely to find more dirty old poof weirdos, in a city rnt venue, or at a Catholic Bishops convention? Think about it...

That's my rant done and dusted...

You self-important, self-righteous twat.
You obviously think you are the centre of the moral universe.

So what if some people find transvestite sex workers 'disgusting' or 'perveted'? Stop tryin to impose your 1990s politically correct agenda on others. Fuck you

Cunt Destroyer dude, you undermine yourself by arguing the man and not the points. For mine, I find your handle hilariously politically incorrect, so if you could argue with similar irony it would be much better.

What a charmer you are. Centre of the moral universe? Hardly. Just prepared to call a narrow-minded bigot or hypocrite when I see one.

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Originally Posted by asiafever

What a charmer you are a narrow-minded bigot or hypocrite

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The insults are flying now! :question:

I called nobody in particular a hypocrite or narrow-minded bigot. I do find some of the views I covered from several of the posts to fit in this category. CD took umbrage, possibly because he didn't like his pov being questioned in such manner, really not my concern.

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Originally Posted by asiafever

And while some of you say homosexuality repulses you, you do realise lesbians are homosexuals right? By watching lesbian porn you are in to gay porn, yeah?

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He he..I'm afraid this is the universal out asiafever. Girl on girl action is merely femininity x 2 or more from an heteros' point of view.

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Originally Posted by asiafever

I know guys who think looking at porn where you can see another mans cock is gay. Think about it, you are watching another mans penis and watching him cum and it makes you cum. EH GADS!

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Ha ha! That is funny mate. But this is also taken into account by the principle of identification. Their cock's are but mere stand ins for your own. Take the girl out of the clip and the heteros run a mile from it. So when those video cocks part those hot pussy lips (assuming you are wanking, or thinking of wanking) it is not their cock doing it, but yours.

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Originally Posted by asiafever

And then if you're watching a gangbang, there's only one female and multiple guys! Multiple cocks! Hmmmm.

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Speaking from real life experience, a gangbang is no more than live, 3D, interactive porn. :D Believe me, unless the guys are on the girl at any one time, you just don't see them, they are invisible like the furniture.

Oh I agree with all you've written there sextus. No argument at all from me, but it is all based on a point of view. I have read your gangbang reports with great interest, and would like to try some day. I have a friend, her and her partner are swingers, not my cup of tea but good luck to them, when one of the mum's from the school found out she was basically run out of the area, kids harassed etc. Awful stuff.

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Originally Posted by Cunt Destroyer

You self-important, self-righteous twat.
You obviously think you are the centre of the moral universe.

So what if some people find transvestite sex workers 'disgusting' or 'perveted'? Stop tryin to impose your 1990s politically correct agenda on others. Fuck you

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The Destroyer is gonna be banned again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again..............!!

I concur with everything AHLUNGOR, isis and asiafever has said. Well said you three!

As to CD, I am just waiting for him to say how much he likes certain "poetry" to confirm my suspicions ;)

I should add that it isn't fair to condemn those who find male homosexual sex repulsive. Not the man, the act. We were born that way. Just as homosexuals and trannies were born that way. If we didn't find the act repulsive and instead found it attractive, we would, ipso facto, be homosexuals. Or variants of. In the case of transexual's, this subject of this thread, the act may be dressed up with a pair of artificial tits, but every cell in their bodies is still full of XY's!

Don't mistake distaste for condemnation though. Because I can't help but feel distaste when I contemplate some bloke fiddling with and sucking a slack, tiny, barely functional penis and a couple of micro balls drowning in a sea of oestrogen tablets! :shout:

That is a black and white view. Just because you don't find it repulsive doesn't mean you therefore find it attractive, or vice verca. The church has an awful cop out line they pull out when condemning gays etc to hell. "We only hate the sin not the sinner.". Like I said, whatever people do behind closed doors is their business, and perfectly valid in it's own right. I agree that distaste for the act and condemnation of those involved are two different things, just as some find gangbangs repulsive or even the idea of visiting a brothel. We're all individuals. We're all different. ("I'm not...")

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

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I think they should pay homage to the Red Dwarf character Arnold Judas Rimmer by displaying the letter LB somewhere on their person :)

Seriously I don't want to see the person if they are a LB, so better not to do the walk by.

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

One more question , for all those ney sayers, do you have the same approach towards a LB who still has the dick vs a trans who already has the operation (post OP) and No more dick !!

You feel the same? or you are more acceptable to be touched and jerk off by someone who doesn't have a dick no more ??

Any different ?

Or in your own mind, will you consider a post OP person is already a woman ??

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I feel the same about dickfull and dickless LBs :)

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

banned again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again..............!!

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I should have copyrighted that sentence :)

I reckon a LB only shop is the way to go!

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Originally Posted by Sextus

If we didn't find the act repulsive and instead found it attractive, we would, ipso facto, be homosexuals.

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Actually Sextus. That is not ipso facto, and is, in fact, bullshit.

I can watch two males kissing (have done so with several friends who are homosexual) and I do not feel repulsed, nor do I feel turned on. In fact the only feelings I have at the sight is happiness for my friends that they are in such a loving relationship (something that many of us would be jealous of - the relationship, not who it is with). I do not however, seek out homosexual porn, nor do I feel any desire at all to consort with other men. As I stated, just because you are not repulsed by something doesn't mean you would be turned on by it either. Ispo facto - your statement that that is the case is bullshit **shrugs**

And of course there is condemnation rather than distaste in this thread. Just look at some of the comments describing people who may use this service as "dirty old queers" or similar.

I think that many of you are forgetting that society (as a whole) would see us (users of R&T and FS shops) as deviants. That perception is not necessarily one that we are comfortable with, and it isn't necessarily correct either, and I, for one, do not believe we should condemning others who are doing something that they enjoy (that is legal). Treat others as you would be treated and all that... :)

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Originally Posted by asiafever

We're all different. ("I'm not...")

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Exactly :)

And some of us are very naughty little boys too ;)

There used to be a shop in Melbourne that had 2 entrances, one for the girls and one for lb's. Seemed to do a good trade. I think you're probably right cl. Better be a stand alone shop, even if it's a branch of a famous shop.

what people do in the privacy of their own homes is their business, yeah yeah fair enough. havent heard anyone disagree with that

the current topic is not about that though. What we are discussing is our thoughts and feelings about introducing transexual sex workers into the shop that we visit.

the thing about these politically correct lefty elitists is that they deny the right of anyone to hold an opinion that happens to differ even slightly from their own.

so when someone admits to feeling 'disgusted' by transvestites. Apparently the act of 'feeling disgusted' is itself a hatecrime and deserving of condemnation.

when someone expresses the opinion that cross dressing and genital mutilation is a 'perversion'. This opinion is denounced as illegitimate, bigotted and narrow minded!

the only 'correct' feeling, values and beliefs are the ones these guys say you can have (ie. pro-gay, pro-left, pro-minority bleeding heart sentamentalism)

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

I think they should pay homage to the Red Dwarf character Arnold Judas Rimmer by displaying the letter LB somewhere on their person :)

Seriously I don't want to see the person if they are a LB, so better not to do the walk by.

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How about we stick a gold star on them too?

I see no issues with this, as long as the shop is up front about providing this service. You have every right as a customer to state that you do not want see the LB and so skip any intro to one. I would feel entirely comfortable going to a shop with LBs as long as I can tell management that I am not interested.

Glad my reference wasn't lost uglyphil...