What Japanese sex workers think of punters

The irony of this thread is that the girls comments, actually highlight how good the standard of girlfriend experience is in Sydney. Daty, DTK variety of positions. A real girl friend experience. This is possible to receive in Thailand and Philippines but it is not always the case in Asia. On a recent trip in Malaysia and Vietnam several girls were very open about your roll in the transaction.
Bare blowjob 2 minutes. Fuck hard 5 minutes and make you come. You leave now sir. Why are you still here after you’ve paid for an hour. Quiet bazaar the similarities in approach. Different countries, beautiful girls.
Believe me that amazing girlfriend experience in Sydney brothels is brilliant. (And you know the cost. The GFE in Thailand and the Philippines rarely equals the cost of the original transaction. )
Back to those Japanese girls and all working girls. Be kind be appreciative be friendly.

Some people find reluctant disgust of WL a turn on. Either way, we getting a bbbj

I think a lot of the comments made by the WL's show a certain degree of naivety and a job they are in they absolutely hate doing. Just hope it isn't force by others putting them in this spot.

Seriously, if a girl is having problems fucking her boyfriend, what is she doing working as a WL ???

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Originally Posted by Zhangwao

Bro all you have to do is go onto any Ginza or no5 girls Twitter account and see what they say. They all say the same shit lol

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Can you share those Twitter handles? Should make for entertaining reading.

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Originally Posted by Bangers1111

I think a lot of the comments made by the WL's show a certain degree of naivety and a job they are in they absolutely hate doing. Just hope it isn't force by others putting them in this spot.

Seriously, if a girl is having problems fucking her boyfriend, what is she doing working as a WL ???

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There are absolutely some J girls doing this job due to debt or other similar reasons. There have been recent discussions elsewhere on this forum about some (many?) of the current crop of FIFO j girls being in host debt and doing this job (often poorly) to pay off the debt or afford the host clubs. One of the worst punts I’ve had in the last few years was with such a girl; when I mentioned my poor experience to some of the other j WLs at the same place they responded ‘oh yes, she’s addicted to host clubs’.

I’ve also spoken to a number of J girls here on student or working holiday visas who claim (I think truthfully, but possibly naively) that they never had any intention of doing this job; however when they got here they either couldn’t find other work or realised they could earn a lot more in less time doing this work than other sorts of work. Most of these type (in my experience) make an effort to do a good job and have a good attitude to customers (Japanese ‘I will do my best’ approach?) but it was never part of their plan to be sucking cocks of fat old white guys (or any other combination of fat, old, hairy, smelly, rough guys of various skin tones), so I wouldn’t be surprised they vent about it behind closed doors or on social media (which is where modern society has determined all grievances, concerns, opinions - however ill informed, and random fucking thoughts should be aired).

By no means is this all working J girls on these sort of visas - many come in with their eyes fully open (often having worked in the industry in Japan) with the intent of making as much money as they can before returning home, or funding their local activities.

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

There are absolutely some J girls doing this job due to debt or other similar reasons. There have been recent discussions elsewhere on this forum about some (many?) of the current crop of FIFO j girls being in host debt and doing this job (often poorly) to pay off the debt or afford the host clubs. One of the worst punts I’ve had in the last few years was with such a girl; when I mentioned my poor experience to some of the other j WLs at the same place they responded ‘oh yes, she’s addicted to host clubs’.

I’ve also spoken to a number of J girls here on student or working holiday visas who claim (I think truthfully, but possibly naively) that they never had any intention of doing this job; however when they got here they either couldn’t find other work or realised they could earn a lot more in less time doing this work than other sorts of work. Most of these type (in my experience) make an effort to do a good job and have a good attitude to customers (Japanese ‘I will do my best’ approach?) but it was never part of their plan to be sucking cocks of fat old white guys (or any other combination of fat, old, hairy, smelly, rough guys of various skin tones), so I wouldn’t be surprised they vent about it behind closed doors or on social media (which is where modern society has determined all grievances, concerns, opinions - however ill informed, and random fucking thoughts should be aired).

By no means is this all working J girls on these sort of visas - many come in with their eyes fully open (often having worked in the industry in Japan) with the intent of making as much money as they can before returning home, or funding their local activities.

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I have read so many times but never asked, what are these host clubs that some of the girls are addicted to or involved in?

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

I have read so many times but never asked, what are these host clubs that some of the girls are addicted to or involved in?

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Inverse of the hostess clubs basically. The girls pay a fee for the hosts (handsome and charming young men would be the ideal host) to basically talk to them, pay attention to them, flirt with them. I think there’s supposed to be no sex, but some hosts may make private arrangements for the girls to pay them for sex also. Through the night, the girl needs to buy and pay for overpriced drinks for herself and the host. Some girls will spend thousands of $$ each week on hosts / host clubs.

Some (most? Not sure) of these establishments are pretty dodgy, make sure the more vulnerable girls get into debt and pretty much force them into prostitution to pay the debt. Other girls will apparently voluntarily work in the industry to fund the lifestyle - for example, a few weeks in Aus working as many shifts as possible in brothels (often moving around to different places to try to maximise their bookings).

The girls I spoke to didn’t really understand the appeal of the clubs or why girls get addicted to it, but it’s a pretty common phenomenon apparently. Typical customers are young women who feel unloved or they can’t find a man who fits their unrealistic ideals; or wealthy older women; or women who can’t settle into a ‘normal’ relationship for some reason, often because they’re sex workers or hostesses themselves.

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

Inverse of the hostess clubs basically. The girls pay a fee for the hosts (handsome and charming young men would be the ideal host) to basically talk to them, pay attention to them, flirt with them. I think there’s supposed to be no sex, but some hosts may make private arrangements for the girls to pay them for sex also. Through the night, the girl needs to buy and pay for overpriced drinks for herself and the host. Some girls will spend thousands of $$ each week on hosts / host clubs.

Some (most? Not sure) of these establishments are pretty dodgy, make sure the more vulnerable girls get into debt and pretty much force them into prostitution to pay the debt. Other girls will apparently voluntarily work in the industry to fund the lifestyle - for example, a few weeks in Aus working as many shifts as possible in brothels (often moving around to different places to try to maximise their bookings).

The girls I spoke to didn’t really understand the appeal of the clubs or why girls get addicted to it, but it’s a pretty common phenomenon apparently. Typical customers are young women who feel unloved or they can’t find a man who fits their unrealistic ideals; or wealthy older women; or women who can’t settle into a ‘normal’ relationship for some reason, often because they’re sex workers or hostesses themselves.

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Thank you. That’s fascinating and unique. Makes sense now

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

Thank you. That’s fascinating and unique. Makes sense now

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Some of these hosts - good looking Japanese men make an absolute fortune.
There's even best hosts competitions.
Japan is crazy, I love it.
Heaps of funny anime about the Subject, Gintama being just one example.

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Originally Posted by Riff888

Some of these hosts - good looking Japanese men make an absolute fortune.
There's even best hosts competitions.
Japan is crazy, I love it.
Heaps of funny anime about the Subject, Gintama being just one example.

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Wait a minute, if some of these J WLs are here to make money to pay debts related to host clubs, they are the punters in Japan and now they here prostituting themselves to pay for their punting. Thats worse than anything they can say about us. They are mostly good looking girls, surely they can get guys without the need to go to these clubs.

The tables have turned

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

Inverse of the hostess clubs basically. The girls pay a fee for the hosts (handsome and charming young men would be the ideal host) to basically talk to them, pay attention to them, flirt with them. I think there’s supposed to be no sex, but some hosts may make private arrangements for the girls to pay them for sex also. Through the night, the girl needs to buy and pay for overpriced drinks for herself and the host. Some girls will spend thousands of $$ each week on hosts / host clubs.

Some (most? Not sure) of these establishments are pretty dodgy, make sure the more vulnerable girls get into debt and pretty much force them into prostitution to pay the debt. Other girls will apparently voluntarily work in the industry to fund the lifestyle - for example, a few weeks in Aus working as many shifts as possible in brothels (often moving around to different places to try to maximise their bookings).

The girls I spoke to didn’t really understand the appeal of the clubs or why girls get addicted to it, but it’s a pretty common phenomenon apparently. Typical customers are young women who feel unloved or they can’t find a man who fits their unrealistic ideals; or wealthy older women; or women who can’t settle into a ‘normal’ relationship for some reason, often because they’re sex workers or hostesses themselves.

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This is 100% spot on. I been telling you all that the reason most of these J girls are working as WL's/ML's is because of host club debts

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

They are mostly good looking girls, surely they can get guys without the need to go to these clubs.

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That is exactly what I was thinking (and still am ha ha.) Good looking girls in Australia have, like, zero chance of not attracting plently of attention. Is not beauty universal?

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

Wait a minute, if some of these J WLs are here to make money to pay debts related to host clubs, they are the punters in Japan and now they here prostituting themselves to pay for their punting. Thats worse than anything they can say about us. They are mostly good looking girls, surely they can get guys without the need to go to these clubs.

The tables have turned

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These girls are pretty and can can get guys without needing to go to clubs. But the problem is, they don't want just any average guy. They want a handsome guy. Basically have to be the Japanese Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth. Or look like a male J-Pop or K-Pop star

If the guys are just average looking, then he is pretty much invisible to these girls

If the guy is just an old bald fat Farang, no chance.

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

Thank you. That’s fascinating and unique. Makes sense now

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There are plenty of youtube vids if you search on host clubs, but this is one of the original docos on it (which you can tell is old by the vid quality): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiKWvgxLYe0

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

These girls are pretty and can can get guys without needing to go to clubs. But the problem is, they don't want just any average guy. They want a handsome guy. Basically have to be the Japanese Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth. Or look like a male J-Pop or K-Pop star

If the guys are just average looking, then he is pretty much invisible to these girls

If the guy is just an old bald fat Farang, no chance.

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such sweet sweet irony
they are out here fucking fat, smelly old cunts, because they have "high standards"

fucking bizzare !

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Originally Posted by snot77

such sweet sweet irony
they are out here fucking fat, smelly old cunts, because they have "high standards"

fucking bizzare !

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The world is a bizarre place

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

This is 100% spot on. I been telling you all that the reason most of these J girls are working as WL's/ML's is because of host club debts

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‘Most’ ? Not sure about that. I don’t have statistics to back it up, but by far ‘most’ (nearly all) of the many j girls I’ve been seeing over the past couple years are here on working holiday visas (usually staying for the better part of a year, sometimes extending it) or a longer term student visa (staying for 2, 3, 4 years). If they’re host club addicted they’re doing a good job suppressing their addiction.

Working here to pay off debts seems to be a lot more prevalent amongst the fifo girls, the influx of them seems a more recent phenomenon.

Maybe depends which shop.

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Originally Posted by snot77

such sweet sweet irony
they are out here fucking fat, smelly old cunts, because they have "high standards"

fucking bizzare !

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I'm talking about the type of guys that these girls are actually romantically interested in and would financially support & spend money on. Or even see for free

Old bald fat Farangs or average guys need to pay her to even spend time with her

While she uses the money to pay a handsome host to spend time with her.

The tables gets turned when the guy is handsome AF

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

These girls are pretty and can can get guys without needing to go to clubs. But the problem is, they don't want just any average guy. They want a handsome guy. Basically have to be the Japanese Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth. Or look like a male J-Pop or K-Pop star

If the guys are just average looking, then he is pretty much invisible to these girls

If the guy is just an old bald fat Farang, no chance.

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You have a real hard on for Brad Pitt and Chris Hemsworth. We should have a forum drinking game or bingo card for whenever you invoke their names.

Based on what I’ve heard from a couple of different j girls plus my own research when I was trying to understand this whole host club / host debt thing is that being handsome is NOT a requirement for a host. Bonus, but not the point. These girls often are pretty and can no doubt pick up guys, even handsome guys. What they WANT is a guy who is extremely charming, very well groomed / styled, and totally devoted to and focused on THEM … or at least giving that appearance for the period they’re being paid. Basically no real guy (handsome or otherwise) is going to be able to live up to those traits. Apparently even a pretty average looking guy can make a decent living as a host with the right training and approach.

In that respect these host addicted girls are basically the equivalent of the sad lonely dudes who pay to see prostitutes just to talk and have some company.

Again, I don’t think host addicted girls necessarily constitute ‘most’ J WLs.

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Originally Posted by cplurt2

I am one of those old fat guys. It's easy to be delusional that hour of time you get with these breathtakingly beautiful Asian working gals but at the end of the day it's still a money transaction. I had a bit of a reality check when I didn't like what I saw in the mirror and even caught the girl with a bit of a disgusted look on her face. I dont need validation from a 25 year old Japanese girl and I worked hard to get where I am in the field I work. Its just motivation I use now to return to the gym cause damn. Round is the shape I don't wanna be in anymore

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Ahaha that was my exact motivation too. Also more posts please!