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Short term yes, long term no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaidwtf
It's out of your system pretty fast, it just causes your body to fight the virus and build immunity.
Take it from an ex drug addict, I've put much worse into my body, this is the least of my concerns.
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Does anyone know the difference between Moderns Pfizer and Astro in terms of how they work new/old technology ect
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Originally Posted by sleepy57
Good news and well done for taking the AstraZenaca shot 3 months ago and what you said about the Hoxton Park Party super-spreading event not affecting the vaccinated participants have been confirmed by the Health Minister today. The AstraZenaca vaccines are not that dangerous statistically based on the World’s experience and I agree the media in Australia has overstated the risks of AstraZenaca.
Good luck for your second shot of AstraZenaca next week.
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Originally Posted by Riff888
Well said. You are now a quite/very safe man from Covid (up to 88% protection from Delta Variant for infection) after finishing your 2 shots of Pfizer.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by One23Four
Still can't take any chances.
You can download your vaccine certificate from MyGov.
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Unfortunately that’s not exactly what that number represents… Look up “vaccine efficacy” and you’ll find it says nothing about how well a particular vaccinated individual is protected from the disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by One23Four
The percentage is a measure of how many fewer cases of infection are seen in a group of people who have taken the vaccine versus cases seen in a similar sized group of people who haven’t had the vaccine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_efficacy
Whoa Wikipedia, you are so informed [emoji1787]Quote:
Originally Posted by DireStraits
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Read up on how Singapore is changing its approach to the pandemic
I like answering questions!Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaidwtf
Based on the Yellow Card scheme in the UK (a valid comparison because the sample size is much larger and we don't appear to have a similar scheme).
The chances of having a side effect from the AZ vaccine is: 1 in 104. The chances of a fatality that may be associated with (but not caused by) the AZ vaccine is: 1 in 86,000.
Based upon case data from 5/4/20 to 28/2/21 in Australia (valid because it's relevant to us).
The rate of a Covid related fatality is 1 in 1209 if you're under 60. Over 60 it's 1 in 5 (Victoria is lower but then they have an appalling record in this area). The low figure for the over 60 cohort is influenced heavily by the underlying health status of those individuals, 44% of which have been in care homes.
So, if you're over 60, in good health (but this is a important factor), not in a care home (especially in Victoria) you're likely to be no worse off than those under 60.
Disclaimer: This is not health advice, legal advice or any other type of advice. It's statistical analysis of Government released data.
Well mate, if you’re not stupid, you’ll skim the article but focus on the included references from peer-reviewed journals which all say exactly the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff888
It’s a common misconception that “95% effective“ means 5% of those vaccinated will get infected.
Stay safe.
Certainly Health Science and Statistics are not exact science with 100% accuracy in prediction. Whether a person will be infected by an infectious disease in particular the Covid Delta Variant or not and also whether a serious or fatal consequence will be resulted will depend on his/her general health conditions as well as genetic composition. However the Hoxton Park Party outbreak does give us good confidence that vaccination will help to prevent infection (one of the six not infected was only vaccinated one doze instead of two). Another consideration for vaccination is to reduce the chance of passing the virus to your friends, workmates, household members etc.
I am not against any persons who don’t want to vaccinate. It is a personal decision. I know friends whose family members are equally split between vaccinate or not.
Yet the vaccinated air hostess still spread the virus to Limousine driver??Quote:
Originally Posted by One23Four
I didn’t think FedEx had air hostesses. The freight must appreciate the service.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
OK then crew, vaccinated crew spread the virusQuote:
Originally Posted by brotherjim
Yes, it can happen. That is why when they open the borders the virus is going to rip through the entire community, but only the "it's their own choice" dopes are going to sick, long covid, or die from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
Read up on what the Singapore health minister said.. They will treating covid as they do seasonal flu.. Big changes coming for them, they're alot smarter then we are at managing the pandemic...
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Originally Posted by dannyboy
The Health Minister in Singapore has vaccinated so he is safe and can make irresponsible decision like the NSW Premier, Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer delaying the imposition of the lockdown. Also the percentage of population inoculated in Singapore will be much much higher than Australia when completed and the treatment of Covid as seasonal flu will only be implemented after the vaccination program is completed.
Just watched ABC 24 and the young Minister of Agriculture tested positive is suffering extreme fatigue and having a fever now. He can’t even stand up and had to convey his conditions lying on the bed. You may think that Covid is only a seasonal flu but many others do not think so. Hope you will be naturally immune from Covid with your extremely good health and positive thinking
Take it up with the experts in SingaporeQuote:
Originally Posted by One23Four
Because Singapore Government bought Pfizer and modena vaccine a lot and welling to pay the market price. Here we only buy 10 million dose initially. Only reasonly 20 million dose. Bad advice from CMO and relax and comfortable attitude. We have a PM saying is "not a RACE" now is it. Even the kiwi is doing better then us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy
if you can get pfizer, then get it... soon it would be out of stock. we might get forced to take AZ. Blood clot is not a major concern, but efficacy rate is too low for AZ
Influenza related deaths in 2019 in Australia (but didn't include Qld, WA, ACT. NT, Tas)
2019 - 812
2018 - 64 (not a typo)
2017 - 804
I've seen documents that have said that 200 to 400 is an average but can't recover them now.
Deaths related to Covid so far:-
910. Of these 20 were under the age of 60, 205 were over 60 but not in care, 685 were over 60 and in care (660 in Vic).
This year 1 from covid but it was acquired overseas..
The overall death rate for flu is 0.003% if my memory serves me right but covid is around 1.5% per World statistics. Also most people fully recovered from flu in one to two weeks but as much as 10% of Covid sufferer have long covid for 6-9 months with symptoms affecting their normal life including work. Many long covid cases still linger on even up to now.
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Originally Posted by dannyboy
You are the one quoting Singapore thinking Singapore Health Minister or its team is the best of the World but I don’t think so. They are at best as good the lousy bureaucrats here if not worse. Singapore does not even has the capacity or ability to manufacture vaccines like CSL in Australia. It is the last country Australia should follow which is why so many Singaporeans migrated to Australia for a better life.
Singapore as a country has been doing very well in terms of Covid control and vaccine roll out, I believe they had purchased and secured supplies when the pandemic first started in early 2020, while most vaccines were still in testing stages - including the Chinese vaccines.
Their Covid infection rate was very low and have excellent medical facilities. Their later outbreaks mainly came from the foreign workers and their congested living quarters then spread back out to the community.
For a country with only 6 million people , their record of 60k cases is double that of Australia’s 30K cases but if you look at the death rate, they only had 36 deads vs Australia’s 910 ? So which country is doing a better job, we shall leave it to the medical experts.
One thing for sure, Singapore is a very small island state, any government policy or decision once handed down could be enforced and implemented very quickly and efficiently while in Australia we have the Federal and States or even the local councils to deal with .
Just my two cents !
Let’s be very careful out there.