Anybody feel that Rnt shop now a bit overpriced?

There are other reasons to visit RNTs, value for money is NOT one of them.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

There are other reasons to visit RNTs, value for money is NOT one of them.

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Can u help a newb understand your reasonings further please

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Originally Posted by jaquedm1307

Can u help a newb understand your reasonings further please

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Well, to me, value for money = getting what you paid for. I think that's a sound reasoning, no?

So you go to an FS place, you pay the fee and since it is an FS place, you expect to get fucked by a girl. So it happens. You go into the room, meet a girl who has just fucked 10 other people that day, she's all ready to go again. Within 5 minutes you've both got your kit off (5 secs for her, cos she's probably got an easy to remove kit on. Can't blame her). Shower done, you lay on the bed, she does her routine, you fuck her she fucks you, game over. Maybe you try to go round 2. Next week, you get horny again, you go to another shop, oh my, same fucking thing happens again.

That's value for money. You get what you paid for, but.... Do you really want to be buying the same product every single time you need to get your rocks off?

Do you eat Maccas every meal? Oh sure, Big Mac Mondays, Chicken Nugget Tuesdays and so on. Can you handle that?

It's the same thing with switching between RNTs and FS. Sometimes I want the sure thing BBBJ, fuck and go experience of FS shops. But sometimes I'm just lazy, I want to lay there, chat up a hottie who's touching my body, who somehow allows me to touch her body anywhere I like, and (usually but not always) end up fucking her.

If "guaranteed FS" is so very important to you, I can offer this advice about RNTs. It pays to be friendly with the mamasan. Find out who's the boss, get on their good side. You will be paid off in spades.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Well, to me, value for money = getting what you paid for. I think that's a sound reasoning, no?

So you go to an FS place, you pay the fee and since it is an FS place, you expect to get fucked by a girl. So it happens. You go into the room, meet a girl who has just fucked 10 other people that day, she's all ready to go again. Within 5 minutes you've both got your kit off (5 secs for her, cos she's probably got an easy to remove kit on. Can't blame her). Shower done, you lay on the bed, she does her routine, you fuck her she fucks you, game over. Maybe you try to go round 2. Next week, you get horny again, you go to another shop, oh my, same fucking thing happens again.

That's value for money. You get what you paid for, but.... Do you really want to be buying the same product every single time you need to get your rocks off?

Do you eat Maccas every meal? Oh sure, Big Mac Mondays, Chicken Nugget Tuesdays and so on. Can you handle that?

It's the same thing with switching between RNTs and FS. Sometimes I want the sure thing BBBJ, fuck and go experience of FS shops. But sometimes I'm just lazy, I want to lay there, chat up a hottie who's touching my body, who somehow allows me to touch her body anywhere I like, and (usually but not always) end up fucking her.

If "guaranteed FS" is so very important to you, I can offer this advice about RNTs. It pays to be friendly with the mamasan. Find out who's the boss, get on their good side. You will be paid off in spades.

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I agree with Goldfishman. This year I saw I think all MLs at 2 Pope Street as I wanted to detox from the brothel. It was a great experience. When you first see an ML you don’t really know what you are going to get and I enjoy that element of surprise. The negotiation in the room for parts 2 3 or whatever I find s bit occurred but I got over it over time.

I once saw a ML a couple of times and once she literally put the condom on and rode me to oblivion. At the end she told me she should pay me 🤣🤣🤣. I have had great fun.

Variety is the spice of life

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Well, to me, value for money = getting what you paid for. I think that's a sound reasoning, no?

So you go to an FS place, you pay the fee and since it is an FS place, you expect to get fucked by a girl. So it happens. You go into the room, meet a girl who has just fucked 10 other people that day, she's all ready to go again. Within 5 minutes you've both got your kit off (5 secs for her, cos she's probably got an easy to remove kit on. Can't blame her). Shower done, you lay on the bed, she does her routine, you fuck her she fucks you, game over. Maybe you try to go round 2. Next week, you get horny again, you go to another shop, oh my, same fucking thing happens again.

That's value for money. You get what you paid for, but.... Do you really want to be buying the same product every single time you need to get your rocks off?

Do you eat Maccas every meal? Oh sure, Big Mac Mondays, Chicken Nugget Tuesdays and so on. Can you handle that?

It's the same thing with switching between RNTs and FS. Sometimes I want the sure thing BBBJ, fuck and go experience of FS shops. But sometimes I'm just lazy, I want to lay there, chat up a hottie who's touching my body, who somehow allows me to touch her body anywhere I like, and (usually but not always) end up fucking her.

If "guaranteed FS" is so very important to you, I can offer this advice about RNTs. It pays to be friendly with the mamasan. Find out who's the boss, get on their good side. You will be paid off in spades.

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Understand now and totally like your reasoning and certainly prefer a variety of dishes
There must be a slightly misunderstanding in what I said as 'guaranteed FS' isn't actually that important but difference & variety & also the uncertainty of the unknown

GoldfishMan Really appreciate u taking the time and trouble to explain - thank u

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Well, to me, value for money = getting what you paid for. I think that's a sound reasoning, no?

So you go to an FS place, you pay the fee and since it is an FS place, you expect to get fucked by a girl. So it happens. You go into the room, meet a girl who has just fucked 10 other people that day, she's all ready to go again. Within 5 minutes you've both got your kit off (5 secs for her, cos she's probably got an easy to remove kit on. Can't blame her). Shower done, you lay on the bed, she does her routine, you fuck her she fucks you, game over. Maybe you try to go round 2. Next week, you get horny again, you go to another shop, oh my, same fucking thing happens again.

That's value for money. You get what you paid for, but.... Do you really want to be buying the same product every single time you need to get your rocks off?

Do you eat Maccas every meal? Oh sure, Big Mac Mondays, Chicken Nugget Tuesdays and so on. Can you handle that?

It's the same thing with switching between RNTs and FS. Sometimes I want the sure thing BBBJ, fuck and go experience of FS shops. But sometimes I'm just lazy, I want to lay there, chat up a hottie who's touching my body, who somehow allows me to touch her body anywhere I like, and (usually but not always) end up fucking her.

If "guaranteed FS" is so very important to you, I can offer this advice about RNTs. It pays to be friendly with the mamasan. Find out who's the boss, get on their good side. You will be paid off in spades.

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Why then , according to your logic why did you get married?

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Well, to me, value for money = getting what you paid for. I think that's a sound reasoning, no?

So you go to an FS place, you pay the fee and since it is an FS place, you expect to get fucked by a girl. So it happens. You go into the room, meet a girl who has just fucked 10 other people that day, she's all ready to go again. Within 5 minutes you've both got your kit off (5 secs for her, cos she's probably got an easy to remove kit on. Can't blame her). Shower done, you lay on the bed, she does her routine, you fuck her she fucks you, game over. Maybe you try to go round 2. Next week, you get horny again, you go to another shop, oh my, same fucking thing happens again.

That's value for money. You get what you paid for, but.... Do you really want to be buying the same product every single time you need to get your rocks off?

Do you eat Maccas every meal? Oh sure, Big Mac Mondays, Chicken Nugget Tuesdays and so on. Can you handle that?

It's the same thing with switching between RNTs and FS. Sometimes I want the sure thing BBBJ, fuck and go experience of FS shops. But sometimes I'm just lazy, I want to lay there, chat up a hottie who's touching my body, who somehow allows me to touch her body anywhere I like, and (usually but not always) end up fucking her.

If "guaranteed FS" is so very important to you, I can offer this advice about RNTs. It pays to be friendly with the mamasan. Find out who's the boss, get on their good side. You will be paid off in spades.

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Value for money is a personal and subjective thing, if you enjoy it, it’s good value for money, period.

To me, all you said you can get from RnT, I can get it from FS places, depends on how you play the cards.

I don’t go to massage places, I like massaging girls, but I don’t like to be massaged, I’ve been hurt by amateurs. BTW, I can’t eat Macca everyday, not even once a week, but it’s not the same with FS, Macca food is dead, no feelings, but FS can be different every time, you playing with a human being, a living thing. ;) ;) ;)

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Originally Posted by Vader

Why then , according to your logic why did you get married?

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Have you ever been married?

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Originally Posted by wilisno

Value for money is a personal and subjective thing, if you enjoy it, it’s good value for money, period.

To me, all you said you can get from RnT, I can get it from FS places, depends on how you play the cards.

I don’t go to massage places, I like massaging girls, but I don’t like to be massaged, I’ve been hurt by amateurs. BTW, I can’t eat Macca everyday, not even once a week, but it’s not the same with FS, Macca food is dead, no feelings, but FS can be different every time, you playing with a human being, a living thing. ;) ;) ;)

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Nah mate, you didn't get my main point. It's never about what I can get from this I can get from that. The entire experience is completely different bro.

Since you said you don't like the feeling of being massaged, that means you don't go for RNT. You're an FS guy. That means you don't know what I'm talking about.

Only someone who frequents both RNT and FS would know the difference I'm talking about. In RNT, there are "those quiet moments" that build the chemistry between you and her. You don't even have to say anything to each other. The act of her touching me and me touching her is enough to get something going.

That element is completely missing from FS shops. Even if you try to play your cards right, how do you do it without making the whole situation awkward? You go into the room, the girl is ready to go. What do you tell her? Let's just sit here, look at each other and touch and feel each other for 30 mins? She will try to go along and don't know wtf is going on bro...

The problem here is FS girls are just too ready to go. That's why I also go for private agency girls, because they're not so ready to go. They're amateurs, a bit awkward, but at least I get a sense that I'm one of the conveyor belt of Johns coming through.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Nah mate, you didn't get my main point. It's never about what I can get from this I can get from that. The entire experience is completely different bro.

Since you said you don't like the feeling of being massaged, that means you don't go for RNT. You're an FS guy. That means you don't know what I'm talking about.

Only someone who frequents both RNT and FS would know the difference I'm talking about. In RNT, there are "those quiet moments" that build the chemistry between you and her. You don't even have to say anything to each other. The act of her touching me and me touching her is enough to get something going.

That element is completely missing from FS shops. Even if you try to play your cards right, how do you do it without making the whole situation awkward? You go into the room, the girl is ready to go. What do you tell her? Let's just sit here, look at each other and touch and feel each other for 30 mins? She will try to go along and don't know wtf is going on bro...

The problem here is FS girls are just too ready to go. That's why I also go for private agency girls, because they're not so ready to go. They're amateurs, a bit awkward, but at least I get a sense that I'm one of the conveyor belt of Johns coming through.

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You’re wrong there, I did go to RnT, that’s why I concluded that I don’t like it. As I said, the value is in your mind, as long as you enjoy it, it’s good value.

No matter what you say is the difference that gives you better value, if it doesn’t appeal to me, there’s no value in it.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Have you ever been married?

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No, why would I? I might be silly but I am not stupid!

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Nah mate, you didn't get my main point. It's never about what I can get from this I can get from that. The entire experience is completely different bro.

Since you said you don't like the feeling of being massaged, that means you don't go for RNT. You're an FS guy. That means you don't know what I'm talking about.

Only someone who frequents both RNT and FS would know the difference I'm talking about. In RNT, there are "those quiet moments" that build the chemistry between you and her. You don't even have to say anything to each other. The act of her touching me and me touching her is enough to get something going.

That element is completely missing from FS shops. Even if you try to play your cards right, how do you do it without making the whole situation awkward? You go into the room, the girl is ready to go. What do you tell her? Let's just sit here, look at each other and touch and feel each other for 30 mins? She will try to go along and don't know wtf is going on bro...

The problem here is FS girls are just too ready to go. That's why I also go for private agency girls, because they're not so ready to go. They're amateurs, a bit awkward, but at least I get a sense that I'm one of the conveyor belt of Johns coming through.

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Rnt with a new girl is like a first date. U flirt to see how far u can get to build a connection and u will know depending on how much she lets u get away with. Though rnt with a experoenced girl might not be the case especially if she offers fs.

Fs is getting laid. But sometimes u just want to get laid and not go thru the above flirting part. Most are mechanical

Sometimes i want to do nothing and i find a regular who i know is gr8 at hj and worships cock wif lotsa edging

Or a bj queen who will suck cock for an hr

Depends on the mood I'm in and how tired i am.

If they do a good job i leave 10 mins to massage them and they do appreciate that

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Originally Posted by Vader

No, why would I? I might be silly but I am not stupid!

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Then there’s no need for me to answer your question, in the same way as I don’t have to explain how delicious pork is to a Muslim. Have a nice day!

[QUOTE=GoldfishMan;2570069]Then there’s no need for me to answer your question, in the same way as I don’t have to explain how delicious pork is to a Muslim. Have a nice day![/QUOT

I feel sorry for you mate. Happy New Year.

For me R&T has the same vibe as having a surgical procedure in a public hospital (actually that's too harsh, lets say in a private hospital with a pretty nurse).
It's very clinical, cold and procedural. All that's missing is being made to wear a gown with your arse sticking out the back.
Nothing wrong with it. You shoot a load and you go home happy. All good.
Clearly plenty of bros love it and that's great!
I don't think anyone can judge other punters punting habits and routines and practices.
We are all different and we do what turns us on and it's all good.

Like a gambler in a casino, the addiction is in chasing the odds, he might win he might lose, that’s the excitement, although he loses more than he wins eventually, that’s why the gambling industry survives as long as the sex industry !

Like Don Juan, he enjoyed the art of chasing girls, the end result is secondary. ;) ;) ;)

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Originally Posted by tpol

Rnt with a new girl is like a first date. U flirt to see how far u can get to build a connection and u will know depending on how much she lets u get away with. Though rnt with a experoenced girl might not be the case especially if she offers fs.

Fs is getting laid. But sometimes u just want to get laid and not go thru the above flirting part. Most are mechanical

Sometimes i want to do nothing and i find a regular who i know is gr8 at hj and worships cock wif lotsa edging

Or a bj queen who will suck cock for an hr

Depends on the mood I'm in and how tired i am.

If they do a good job i leave 10 mins to massage them and they do appreciate that

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I did that 3 years ago and ended up in the most fucked up relationship with a ML. It's over now.... so I guess I could say it worked a little too well!

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Originally Posted by rooter

For me R&T has the same vibe as having a surgical procedure in a public hospital (actually that's too harsh, lets say in a private hospital with a pretty nurse).
It's very clinical, cold and procedural. All that's missing is being made to wear a gown with your arse sticking out the back.
Nothing wrong with it. You shoot a load and you go home happy. All good.
Clearly plenty of bros love it and that's great!
I don't think anyone can judge other punters punting habits and routines and practices.
We are all different and we do what turns us on and it's all good.

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Haha, yep, that's true, if you lack the qualities needed to attract the ladies at least a little. I've been lucky to be able to do that so far (also the reason I've never been able to stay single for as long as I can remember in my adult life).

I guess I'll keep doing RNTs until I'm too old to attract the ladies. Will prolly have to switch to only FS shops for fucking then, I think. Cest la vie.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Haha, yep, that's true, if you lack the qualities needed to attract the ladies at least a little. I've been lucky to be able to do that so far (also the reason I've never been able to stay single for as long as I can remember in my adult life).

I guess I'll keep doing RNTs until I'm too old to attract the ladies. Will prolly have to switch to only FS shops for fucking then, I think. Cest la vie.

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Hahaha, handsome boy attracting the ladies, lol. Like Wood23 said, every ml he met is ready for part 3 nowadays, hahaha, Woodsy must be a Brad Pitt ! ;) ;) ;)

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Originally Posted by wilisno

Hahaha, handsome boy attracting the ladies, lol. Like Wood23 said, every ml he met is ready for part 3 nowadays, hahaha, Woodsy must be a Brad Pitt ! ;) ;) ;)

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Lol I’m no Brad Pitt, certainly not getting 100% FS from RNT, but I’ve had a fair few memorable “connections” with the MLs. When that happens, it would be like I go in expecting the “clinical” experience as rooter said, but came out thinking “holy shit what just happened”.

And we’re not just talking about Part 3 here, we’re talking about baby making sessions.

Mind you, I’ve had the same incredible experience in FS shops like the Ginzas, but the score is very much in favour of RNTs. I put this down to the “straight to business” mentality that exists in FS shops making it difficult to get the same chemistry happening as in RNTs.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Lol I’m no Brad Pitt, certainly not getting 100% FS from RNT, but I’ve had a fair few memorable “connections” with the MLs. When that happens, it would be like I go in expecting the “clinical” experience as rooter said, but came out thinking “holy shit what just happened”.

And we’re not just talking about Part 3 here, we’re talking about baby making sessions.

Mind you, I’ve had the same incredible experience in FS shops like the Ginzas, but the score is very much in favour of RNTs. I put this down to the “straight to business” mentality that exists in FS shops making it difficult to get the same chemistry happening as in RNTs.

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So much so Woodsy said he decided to go for legit massage then face places afterwards, because he’s deprived of the chase, and getting less time for baby making activities for the same money or more in an RnT. ;) ;) ;)

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Originally Posted by wilisno

So much so Woodsy said he decided to go for legit massage then face places afterwards, because he’s deprived of the chase, and getting less time for baby making activities for the same money or more in an RnT. ;) ;) ;)

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My dude, I can't speak for woods. I can only speak for myself because it's the only thing I know 100% without a doubt is true. Everything else I read on this forum, let's just say I take most of it with a huge grain of salt. IMO, I can count with one hand the number of bros that I consider to be writing their genuine experiences on the forum.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

My dude, I can't speak for woods. I can only speak for myself because it's the only thing I know 100% without a doubt is true. Everything else I read on this forum, let's just say I take most of it with a huge grain of salt. IMO, I can count with one hand the number of bros that I consider to be writing their genuine experiences on the forum.

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That’s what I’m saying from the start, value is an individual preference, if you like it your way, it’s good value, I don’t even say how many love making sessions I’ve had with WLs. ;) ;) ;)

As for trusting no one on the forum, that’s nothing unusual, I’m sure most people take that stance too, just as when they read your comments or reviews with a grain of salt. But the smart one can always find something useful in reviews and benefited from them.

I had a quite attractive Brazillian ML ask for my number recently. I declined but said I would add her on my socials (gave her a burner social account).

While it was tempting to explore dating an ML. I don't want to risk the baggage that comes along with it. Sure I might get some free bareback sex out of it. But I'd rather not be in a relationship with a woman that's sucking and stroking 10 stranger cocks a day for a living.

Regarding the OPs topic. You can get cheap massage with extras and FS further out west. But the quality tends to dip quite a lot. More cougars and 40-50 year old Chinese ladies.

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Originally Posted by Nojoke

I did that 3 years ago and ended up in the most fucked up relationship with a ML. It's over now.... so I guess I could say it worked a little too well!

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Guys are tempted to fall for WLs or MLs believing they can have meaningful relationships and free sex with these girls. However, it rarely ever ends in a happy ending.

For all newbies who have never been in a relationship with a WL/ML, I wouldn't suggest not trying to have such relationship. At least you will find out why we say don't get involved with a WL/ML.