Sugarbabes - Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast markets

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Originally Posted by Joe1956

Interesting. Offered a double a week ago and it was 500 all up and they could host.
A lot of ladies 3-400 of outstanding quality
Seems to be this mythical agenda on here with some childlike warped idea they can lower prices

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Nice. U must be an exceedlingly handsome guy @Joe1956. These SB's are practically willing to go with you for free. Enjoy mate. Never came across 300 since post covid. I only came across very few willing to do 400-500. They do exist. But very uncommon

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Originally Posted by sukeong

To be fair I have noticed escorts in other countries doing this too. Hiking up prices to ridiculous levels. Previous $400-600/hr to wat is now crazy levels of $1500-1900/hr. It seem counterintuitive to me at first when economy around the world is going to recession but I guess their strategy is to hope for that one rich dumb dude to cover the 3-4x normal income they get from previously.


Back to SB, i think some of them seem to be doing pretty well. A few at SD.com stopped conversing me after promising beginning. Looks like they had better offers. Perhaps not as desperate as we think.

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Yes I think this is a worldwide phenomenon. Theres ridiculous prices being quoted now. Usually these SB's will get back to u after a week or 2 when their "better deal" falls through or it was just a once off meet.

Most people are generally very lazy & prefer to do 1 occasional job with big pay rather then few smaller regular ones with less pay

There may be some dumb rich guy who will pay these high prices. But the concept contradicts itself. Rich guys arent dumb & are very smart with money usually. Otherwise they wouldnt have gotten rich in the first place.

Let’s see these million $ babes. Which platform and what names

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Originally Posted by mn69

Thats just purely delusional now. Hope you didnt give in mate. I think some of these girls must be young & naive. And have no concept of money & salary. $4k is nearly a months salary for the average person.

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No no, I didn’t go ahead, that was madness

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

No no, I didn’t go ahead, that was madness

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That's interesting. My experience has been similar. I had an Indian fattie ask for minimum 1 k for a few hours, which I passed on obviously. She reckoned that she had received 1.5k a few times too. And she was not particularly attractive.

SD game is tough and all the good ones seem to be taken. Can only imagine what the asking price would be with the hotter ones. I was quoted 600ppm from one of the decent looking one but still too expensive to be honest. I have spent close to $1000 on a meetup once and the experience was amazing but too much hit to the pocket and too much effort to be honest. If money wasn’t an issue I’d probably do this full time :D

Unreal. Not sure what window you are shopping but exaggerations seem to be the game
Yeh, had a couple at $700 and since then nothing like those amounts.
Find it hard to believe.
4-500 buys amazing ladies for many an hour plus some
Yeh, I’ve bonked for $70 in some salubrious shops
But SBs are another level
I call bullshit on exaggerations
Ask and you shall receive

I do pretty well in the 400-500 range. I generally stay away from the 20 years olds with hey babe in their response though.

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Originally Posted by Joe1956

Yeh, I’ve bonked for $70 in some salubrious shops
Ask and you shall receive

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Please tell where these shops are!

I should’ve mentioned around $300 was on the room hire and food & beverages. Not that it makes it any better…

I guess the asking price depends on your attractiveness too. Maybe they were more willing to meetup with you for less. I had to pay $600 plus room food etc. almost $1000. $400-$500 sounds almost reasonable and wouldn’t mind trying this game again lol

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Originally Posted by mn69

There may be some dumb rich guy who will pay these high prices. But the concept contradicts itself. Rich guys arent dumb & are very smart with money usually. Otherwise they wouldnt have gotten rich in the first place.

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Yeah i used the wrong word there. I dun think they are dumb. Those people may have got rich through legal or illegal schemes or they were just born in money but probably not dumb.

They are just swimming in money and just dun care enough to haggle lol. Spending that much sound alot to us folks but not to them. They have fuck you money so I guess that's who the SBs are targeting now.

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Originally Posted by abovetherim

I should’ve mentioned around $300 was on the room hire and food & beverages. Not that it makes it any better…

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That's rough sum I'm targeting now. The market is tough.

Maybe $300 plus for room and food. $200 plus for 4/5 star hotel and $100 plus for food. And fee for girl of about $500-600. Not sure if that's enough for just an hr or the few hrs per meet lol. But that's already close to a 1K.

It actually makes sense that prices are going up.

Sex trade in any form (SB, WL, ML, etc) are all restricted in the same way: A provider who needs more money cannot increase their income by increasing volume through reduced pricing.

If they are affected by inflation and need more money, the only thing they can do to get that is increase their price. Doing a weekly special like Coles or Woolies is not going to do anything for them.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

It actually makes sense that prices are going up.

Sex trade in any form (SB, WL, ML, etc) are all restricted in the same way: A provider who needs more money cannot increase their income by increasing volume through reduced pricing.

If they are affected by inflation and need more money, the only thing they can do to get that is increase their price. Doing a weekly special like Coles or Woolies is not going to do anything for them.

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Fair enough they have to increase prices as everything in general has gone up. But has to follow inflation & current economic trends as well. Going from 500 to 1000+ is a 200% increase. Its unrealistic

Same way a salaried worker just cant ask their bosses to go from $25/hr to $50/hr due to "inflation" for the same job/skills that they are already doing

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Originally Posted by mn69

Fair enough they have to increase prices as everything in general has gone up. But has to follow inflation & current economic trends as well. Going from 500 to 1000+ is a 200% increase. Its unrealistic

Same way a salaried worker just cant ask their bosses to go from $25/hr to $50/hr due to "inflation" for the same job/skills that they are already doing

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I don’t agree with this for the reason that there is no “price” in the sense that no “service” is being offered. There is only a relationship whose terms are negotiated between me and her. Any girl who thinks she is offering a service should fuck off to E&B.

If you treat SB dating with the mindset that she’s an escort and you are a john then you will get escort behaviour. What I am trying to achieve is finding regular, hot girls who have a kink for fun with an older guy and who like a little bit of extra cash in their wallet. I’m not looking for someone who makes a living out of this.

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Originally Posted by thelastdance

I don’t agree with this for the reason that there is no “price” in the sense that no “service” is being offered. There is only a relationship whose terms are negotiated between me and her. Any girl who thinks she is offering a service should fuck off to E&B.

If you treat SB dating with the mindset that she’s an escort and you are a john then you will get escort behaviour. What I am trying to achieve is finding regular, hot girls who have a kink for fun with an older guy and who like a little bit of extra cash in their wallet. I’m not looking for someone who makes a living out of this.

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Yes true, unfortunately some of these SB's are also escorts on E&B. But posing as SB's. Thats why they will quote u for a price per hour. But lets be realistic about SB's. These girls are on it for a reason. They're struggling financially and are in it to make as much money as possible.

So they become an SB for older guys to pay them for their company, as outside of SB world, its very rare for young hot girl to be into a older guy because she genuinely likes him. Thats why they expect an "allowance".

These SB's are sleeping with young hot guys for free in case u didnt know

So technically, they are all in it for the money and to try & make a living out of it.

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Originally Posted by mn69

Yes true, unfortunately some of these SB's are also escorts on E&B. But posing as SB's. Thats why they will quote u for a price per hour. But lets be realistic about SB's. These girls are on it for a reason. They're struggling financially and are in it to make as much money as possible.

So they become an SB for older guys to pay them for their company, as outside of SB world, its very rare for young hot girl to be into a older guy because she genuinely likes him. Thats why they expect an "allowance".

These SB's are sleeping with young hot guys for free in case u didnt know

So technically, they are all in it for the money and to try & make a living out of it.

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I'm under no illusions that they are fucking other guys off other sites for free. I can't do that because I am married and I can't have an open profile on tinder or other dating apps. I usually go for girls on Seeking who have careers and who are not making a living out of this. Not all girls are on there to make a living out of it in my experience and some will fuck me for free after a few dates. So I would disagree with that conclusion that they all all trying to make a living or are mainly in it for the money. Suggest digging a bit deeper for the good ones.

Wrong thread it seems

Something I don't understand is, why are you guys so put off by an SB who also happens to be a WG?

What's so bad about that?

A while ago I met a 23 year-old reasonably good looking Filipino SB from seeking.com and arranged 3 meetings at hotels, for a few hours each time.

As she became relaxed and familiar with me, she was frank enough on the third meeting to tell me how she is always horny and cannot go without sex for more than 3 days, and how she hooks up with guys she meets on Tinder a couple of times a week. Obviously, she is screwing them free of charge!

It kind of left me feeling that the only reason I am paying her was because I am much older than the guys she gets to fuck free.
Well, I accept that it's a business model when SD and SB get together.....

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Something I don't understand is, why are you guys so put off by an SB who also happens to be a WG?

What's so bad about that?

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My view is a WG is a WG even if she meets you on the basis of being a SB.
The "code of conduct" in the punting game is WG have little choice about which men to accept -- yes, I know they have the right to refuse punters -- while on the other hand SB choose their SD as much as the SD choose them, and generally SB do not do it with too many men... while some WG might have sex with 10 or more men in one day.

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Originally Posted by andrewv

My view is a WG is a WG even if she meets you on the basis of being a SB.
The "code of conduct" in the punting game is WG have little choice about which men to accept -- yes, I know they have the right to refuse punters -- while on the other hand SB choose their SD as much as the SD choose them, and generally SB do not do it with too many men... while some WG might have sex with 10 or more men in one day.

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Ok so I take it the main sticking point is the WG-SB has slept with many men, while a non-WG-SB wouldn't have. That's fair enough.

How about this. There's another thread here about "most memorable girls" we've punted with. Let's say you have a WG in that list, and now you find that she's available as an SB. You can pay her a stipend and you can get on with her just like any other SB you meet out there. Pay $500 for hours of fucking, etc.

Would you still avoid having that girl as an SB?

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Ok so I take it the main sticking point is the WG-SB has slept with many men, while a non-WG-SB wouldn't have. That's fair enough.

How about this. There's another thread here about "most memorable girls" we've punted with. Let's say you have a WG in that list, and now you find that she's available as an SB. You can pay her a stipend and you can get on with her just like any other SB you meet out there. Pay $500 for hours of fucking, etc.

Would you still avoid having that girl as an SB?

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I am not saying I would avoid an SB or WG, or an SB pretending to be a WG. What I am saying is if I discover that an SB is also working as a WG in a shop then my view of her is that she is not an SB but is a WG. It is purely my personal view and am happy for other blokes to think what they want.

There is no dispute about myself being a punter, I am paying $$$ for sex with a woman, and she is receiving $$$ and in return offering her body, so to speak. WG's and SB's have sex with us for money. It is the only motivation for them. I have told elsewhere here the story with the Filipino SB who told me she hooks up with guys from tinder a couple of times a week because she needs sex at least every 3 days... and I think these tinder men do not pay $$$.

I think in most cases, some of us looking for a SB expect some 'exclusivity' and a special deal from an SB. Other threads here also referred to the whole issue of STD risks and how most SB connections are BBFS while most WG expect/demand condoms be worn.

Then you're not one of those who are hardcore avoiding SBs that are also WGs. I've seen some other blokes on this thread or other ones make it very clear that they would avoid an SB like the plague if they found out that the SB was also a WG.

I guess my question is directed at that cohort. Why do you avoid them and to what extent?

I'll also say where I'm coming from with this. I've tried multiple times in the past to get into this SB thing. Even paid for Seeking membership a couple of times. In the end I couldn't find any girl I liked because they just do not look attractive enough for me to lift a finger.

I started comparing them to the hot girls I've been fucking almost weekly at the best shops, FS and RNT included, and I found myself thinking "what's the point of all this when I could pay $100 extra in an RNT to fuck a girl that fits all my criteria?".

I mean, no offence to anyone but these girls are seriously not hot at all. On Seeking, SDM, sugardaddy, etc.

I find I am of a similar opinion. I have seen WG's, SB's and ML's and i find that the ML's are generally the better looking ladies, to me atleast, and the service and conndction is normally better. My experience with SB and WG has been, generally speaking of course both categories have had absolute gems, more like a conveyer belt where they want you in and out asap. Are pure SB's, those that dont also WG, are different scenario as i never really check if the SB's i meet where working on the side.

Here is another experience with seeking.com
Just before COVID, seeking had a good-looking Indian girl who I made contact with and we exchanged messages on kik for a few days, then I got busy with another SB so I didn't proceed. A few months later I noticed she was not on seeking anymore, so I sent her a message on kik to see if she was still looking for SD encounters.
She replied and said that yes she is happy to see me and gave me a link to a brothel at Wetherill Park (or somewhere there) where she was working.
I never bothered to drive all that way.

Moral of the story: it is all about we punters paying, and them girls opening their legs. All that stuff about being ML, WG, SB, blah, blah are just technical definitions.