120 - 150 should at least get you a naked HJ. Check with the boss
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That trend is happening where massage ladies are asking for $50 for HJ and $50 to get naked.... at places that charge circa $70, which make the deal worth $170 ... which is bullshit value.
I had this happen to me at 199 Clarence St 3 weeks ago and I will never go there again. https://199citymassage.com/ 199 Blue Angel City Massage. Waste of money.
On the other hand, nice ML called Lulu at Lane Cove Asian Massage a couple of months ago asked if I wanted a happy ending and when I said yes she simply took off her gear and proceeded without asking/negotiating price. When we finished I gave her $50 and she said thank you. https://lanecoveasianmassage.business.site/
Note: all the photos on that website are fake. But the ML that I saw was a decent genuine lady.
There are a number of Chinese at Summerville so if you can't remember her name... it's of little help to anyone.
1. My technique, which works for me in many places, including Summerville, is to lay a pineapple on the table when I climb on naked. Or sometimes leave the pineapple on an end table making sure the ML is looking. Most don't say anything; a couple have said "Is this for me"?, but EVERYONE knows what it's for - showing MY interest in extras, specifically a NHJ minimum. Only once has this failed when Momo, Summerville, didn't see it laying on the table by my head, but then, she never moved above my waist. When she did ask if I wanted extras, I just pointed to the pineapple there, she stripped and gave me a piss-poor NHJ, never to repeat. But EVERYWHERE else, it's been a CLEAR signal of what I'm looking for. In some cases, that's all I want.
Once the flip has happened, a few will mention upgrades for a 2nd pineapple, i.e. 2.5's: bj (most likely cbj especially if it's your first meeting), B2B, etc. None that I've met understand the WORD "Spanish", but simply pointing at their rack and asking if I can finish there does work. A few have included Spanish in the base charge, but I fully expect it to be covered with the 2nd pineapple.
2. You could also make a STATEMENT by using a question, "No clothes, happy ending, yes? while showing her a pineapple.
3. If I got any other answer except a Yes, as in a higher quote, as in $50/$50 for HJ and strip, just say, POLITELY, "No thank you". This could very well be one of her "never hurts to ask", but you are ALWAYS free to decline. Thing is, the extras are how they make their money, and with NO extras, that's time lost. I'd think a number would return to the norm, $50 for NHJ just so they don't lose out. One, AR in my own "starting punting" thread, tried to tell me that the base massage price would increase from $65 to $90 when I told her no extras, but we did reach a mutual agreeable solution that included a pineapple for a NHJ (with her including B2B and Spanish).
4. Just remember, it's BUSINESS. She's selling, you're buying her product. Be polite, you should know what the going rate is. MY experience: $50 for NHJ, another $50 for part 2.5. She might be looking for a price increase, but you can always say no. MY GUESS is, as you seem a bit shy (nothing wrong with that), she's using that as an opportunity for a better payday. Don't be rude, aggressive, just know what your bottom line is (and personally mine does vary when it comes to part 3).
All of the above is based on my MO: $70/1 hour massage ($90 at Summerville). I expect 30-35 minutes massage, 15-25 minutes extra time. I'm NOT interested in adding notches to my belt so once I find a ML who understands me, I repeat. I like that we don't have to start from zero. After the first meeting, I'll pay the desk (Summerville) or the ML directly the MASSAGE fee ($70). With some, I hand their fee to them upfront, with others after we're done. No set rule, just however it works out as we BOTH know what WILL happen (the benefits of repeats).
Just remember, extras are exactly that, optional on both parties' sides. She is free to decline, so are YOU, POLITELY. I DON'T use a "NO" as a bargaining strategy, I just know what the going rate is and what I'm willing to pay for her experience that day. YMMV, but it shouldn't by much. Most shops I've been to, for $170 ($70/hour massage, $100 for part 2.5) I walk out smiling. If I know it'll be a simple part 2 ONLY, then $120 is sufficient for the NHJ. But I ALWAYS pay what was agreed to, the variable is whether I return.
BTW: you say you've paid $120-$150 "to the place"... The shops I frequent, it's $70/hour ($90 at Summerville). I know some shops include a NHJ in the price (say 200 Stanmore), and BodyTone on Anzac Parade, it was never clear to me what their $160/hour base price included (maybe someone better informed than I could shed some light).
Also, the SYT's will charge (or at least try) more for less. I like PRC's, and 30ish LOOKING provides some terrific value. In fact, if you're looking for some FS practice, those are who'd I ask for some tutoring.
Thanks for the words. Brings to mind several cliches:
You'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar (and no disrespect meant to the ladies). Just common sense. Some of us work in the service industry. You give good service to all, BUT the customer always on your back... maybe strictly to spec. The one who's nice, polite, respectful, maybe offers you a soda while you're working? Those you're happy to see, do a good job fast. But even if you don't work in the service industry, in a big office, who are you more likely to help? The guy from another department banging on your desk, yelling that you need to do this or that. Or the guy who politely asks for help?
Knowledge is power. As stated, this forum is about helping and sharing info. The question one should ask themselves is if you're not getting the same prices as others, why? Now I'm not talking about some non-standard service. If her standard is a CBJ, you want a BBBJ, you can always ask. She can always say no. If she does provide a BBBJ, I'd expect that to cost extra. But with the DEFAULT standard NHJ service... One thing if she's a 21 year old BEAUTY, face AND body. But standard? Should be standard.
Nature abhors a vacuum. MY experience, most girls will deliver for the standard price. But certainly some might take an opportunity to increase their take-home pay. I'd be cautious of a repeat with that type, and as I said, I'd politely decline, prepared to walk. No hysterics, just a silent departure. It's not a negotiating strategy, merely a statement of fact. If she chooses to make another offer, I'll listen UNTIL I start to put my shoes on. At that point, I will be leaving regardless. Just my own personal red line.
Shortstack: It's all just learning experiences. I've certainly overpaid for substandard services. I'm not hostile, just make a note, and NO repeat business from me. Here's my path HERE:
http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...cs-by-a-Newbie
Left clicking my handle in the leftmost window pane will bring up a pop-up, select "View Forum Posts". Not that I'm a pathfinder, I'll leave that to AHLUNGOR; he's provided any number of useful posts. If you're looking for a simple standard NHJ from a busty masseuse, Pen or Maggie (Summerville) or Coco at 208 Stanmore immediately come to mind. Pen is legend. AR's have been written...
Myself, I remember names, and when memory fails, I keep a note. Certainly the great ones, the regulars, those I REMEMBER. But also the duds... The mediocre ones, I might not remember off hand, but hopefully I did make a note just so when I ask who's working today, I'll recognize names... It certainly helps to know a name just so others can agree/disagree with your experience. Won't change YOUR experience, but might shed some light on it (she's like that with everyone, or perhaps you just didn't click...)
One last thing (really): once you establish a price, on repeats, that will be the price, in my experience anyway. Just easier that way, nothing needs to be said. Some might be able to get a lower price, especially if the original price was OTT, but then it seems like human nature for the other party to be wondering why. Just like if you've been paying $50 for part 2.0, then, suddenly, she ups the price. Two sides, same coin. For me, I don't as long as nothing has changed. If her experience was worth $xxx one time, it is worth $xxx the next time for those SAME services. Now, if I decide to upgrade, then I'd expect an increase, and if I downgrade, less, but I would FIRST tell her on the downgrade so there are NO surprises.
She certainly has every reason to expect the same price for the same service. Certainly many choices, so it's not like you're stuck...
Thanks guys. I don't make a note of whom I seen and how much I've paid for what. Most of the time I get sour and delete Wechat only to come back.
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Check out her photo lying on the bed and squeezing her tits. They look fake to me.
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Veets made a recommendation on a separate thread which is relevant to everyone's interest here
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