Going out with ml/wl

@ditch why not do something adventurous

Book Jessie, and book dior after that. Dior last because she got that suck till you dry moves.

I bet now you cannot walk after that

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Originally Posted by PKING2

@ditch why not do something adventurous

Book Jessie, and book dior after that. Dior last because she got that suck till you dry moves.

I bet now you cannot walk after that

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Dude don’t tempt me. You know I’d do it. Fark that’s a great idea. Man now I am tempted.

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

Dude don’t tempt me. You know I’d do it. Fark that’s a great idea. Man now I am tempted.

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Haha PKING2 the marketer

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Originally Posted by Footballpunter

Haha PKING2 the marketer

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@footballpunter, pking knows that once I had a session in the morning with a girl and then Dior in the evening of the same day. Dior absolutely drained me. After it I couldn’t remember where I had parked my car and even caught the tram in the wrong direction. Great day though

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

@footballpunter, pking knows that once I had a session in the morning with a girl and then Dior in the evening of the same day. Dior absolutely drained me. After it I couldn’t remember where I had parked my car and even caught the tram in the wrong direction. Great day though

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Haha fantastic day indeed. That you be you in a few days, or even tonight lol

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Originally Posted by Axeman123

I adopted the attitude of "what people don't know can't hurt them , but what they do know can hurt you". Not just in brothel world but in the real world too.

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That is a very good principle

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Originally Posted by yummypinacolada

Most WL/ML are so desensitized with feelings, they've dealt with lots of bad guys and probably gone through lots of heartbreak as well. Even when they fall for you, its very easy for them to run away when things don't go her way. Lots of guys fall into WL/MLs trap for liking them too much

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This is a great quote. It's not only seen with jaded WL, but it's also all those jaded women (and men) on dating sites who don't care about finding love, they just want to serially date people for a dinner then move on

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Originally Posted by silverfox1985

Ok before I start my story, I wanna say that there are three signs indicating imminent danger
1. WG has a pattern of asking financial assistance with increasing frequency and no intention to pay back
2. WG asks expensive jewelry and design brands
3. WG asks about your residential status and your willingness to sponsor her visa (partner sponsorship)

When you notice these signs, red flag up, mission abort and run!

I have been hanging out with this Chinese WG almost a year. We are from the same place (hometown), but she is from more of the rural area. She asked for my WeChat after me seeing her the sixth time. We started messaging each other, then I asked her out. Be honest, I would not do it, if we were not from the same place. It’s just too risky if the WG is from another nationality. The Aussie-Thai/Indonesian/Korean WG couple does not normally end well. Nothing racial here.

We started dating, dinner, drinks, Chinese movies (her English is quite limited, so we can only watch Chinese movies in cinema). After we were closer, she started visiting my place. In one occasion, she even did some cooking for me. We also went short trips (like Wollongong, Hunter Valley). We know each other pretty well now (legal names, DOBs, where we worked, how much we earn, etc) except that she never told me where she lives. Considering she is living with some illegal migrants, it is understandable that she has such protocol.

We did get into fight (not relating to her line of work) occasionally, and I was so pissed off and asked her to delete my contact once. Lucky she didn’t do it.

When we spent time together, we did have sex. But I did not initiate it and only did it when she gave the clear signal.

We give each other gifts from time to time (i.e. Xmas, birthday etc). I bought her a Kate Spade wallet, she would buy me a Tommy Hifilger jacket. If I bought her some tableware, she would buy me some home decoration. She paid for things when we were out too. Like when we stayed in Hunter Valley, she took care of all food bills since I booked the accommodation.

Money wise, sometimes she asked my help to send money ($10k, $20k, etc) home to pay off her debts (banks and private loans - it’s common in China). Clearly she doesn’t know how to use NetBank and mobile apps. I use Remitly or Panda remit, sometimes the Foreign Exchange agency in Chinatown). She told me that she felt safe for me to handle this for her. There was one time she even asked me to keep her cash like $30k in my place for a few days (she used to live in a house with landlord, and they had a dispute, the landlord wanted to kick her out. She kept all her money home and was worried that the landlord might break in and took the money).

This definitely took an emotional toll, as it is not pleasant to know that the girl you are fond of sucked dicks and gets fucked in different positions 10 times in a row everyday. It took a heavy toll on her as well. She told me that this line of work completely changed her perception of sex and people’s character (she called it the line work without any morality and bottom line). Sometimes when she felt too much pressure, she might snap and stay in bed for an entire day.

Her family is pretty fucked up as far as I know. But there is one thing she keeps away from me that is she has not divorced yet and has a 7-year old kid. I actually know it because one of my schoolmate is a senior manager in her old place of work in China. I asked her a few times and also gave indication that I actually knew it like “I don’t mind that you are a mum”. She neither admitted nor denied, and always kept silent or said things like: “if you believe that is the case, so be it.” If she trusted me with her cash, why not just be open about it? I don’t know……

Now I’m not sure how this would eventually turn out. She did ask me if I had a gf or wife or ever sponsored anyone when we went out the first time. But never asked anything about visa sponsorship again. If she is fishing, then I’m definitely not a big fish in pond although I do have a decent job, an apartment (with mortgage!) and an Aussie passport. Sometimes I felt like she’s like my younger sister (but in a twisted way, coz you are not supposed to sleep with your sister).

I reckon in her situation, she definitely wants something out of me. Maybe she just needs some support/comfort here or she has not made her mind yet, or she is planning something in a longer term or she will eventually return to her husband and kid and we just say goodbye and never meet again. If she tells me everything I need to know, I don’t mind giving her a ticket out. But I’m not sure what she is up to.

All comments are welcome, fellow punters, but please do not judge.

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I am a little late but thanks for sharing man heaps generous of you

To be honest if I were single and the invitation for dating came up with my favourite girl, I'd know I definitely shouldn't but I definitely would :) - and it would obviously end in disaster....

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Originally Posted by bung72

To be honest if I were single and the invitation for dating came up with my favourite girl, I'd know I definitely shouldn't but I definitely would :) - and it would obviously end in disaster....

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True brother not worth it the end. Date someone who is fucking others?? Don’t even think about it. Enjoy the experience and move on.

Nice story silverfox1985
Your instincts are right

I would be never share personal details with a WL/ML. Address, are you serious?

I would hate a WL knocking on my door when I have a property manager or friend around. Just asking for trouble

Notice she isn't comfortable telling you everything about her. The distance is a healthy thing

Sorry you need the company of a WL. Best to keep things purely business

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Originally Posted by Fredsal

True brother not worth it the end. Date someone who is fucking others?? Don’t even think about it. Enjoy the experience and move on.

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Yep. Wouldn't it fuck with your head?? Especially if you really liked her. But how could you turn her down?
Sorry - I've clearly taken a detour into nevergonnahappenopolis! :)

The way I see it - I pay for the GFE experience. So while I'm there, she is my girlfriend... so I get amazing experiences without the bullshit! Probably (definitely) cheaper in the long run too.... but we always want just that bit more, don't we?

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Originally Posted by bung72

The way I see it - I pay for the GFE experience. So while I'm there, she is my girlfriend... so I get amazing experiences without the bullshit! Probably (definitely) cheaper in the long run too.... but we always want just that bit more, don't we?

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So true
Pay, have sex, leave. Don't overcomplicate things
Don't be lonely. Keep business as business
Don't be paying women $1000s in cash to support them, unless you are married to them. Don't be a knight in shining armour

Think with your brain at all times

speaking of which, I saw a big bunch of flowers delivered to SBM the other day. was wondering if it was one of the punters here was dating a ML. lol

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Originally Posted by frisson

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Think with your brain at all times

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Absolutely, but only in the state of post-nut clarity!

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Originally Posted by bung72

Absolutely, but only in the state of post-nut clarity!

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As a wise young ml once sang to me
"I want you to
To love me, to love me, to love me, but don't fall in love
To hold me, to hold me, to hold me, but not for too long
I want you to love me, to love me, but don't fall in love
'Cause I'm not the one to love"

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Originally Posted by asiafever

As a wise young ml once sang to me
"I want you to
To love me, to love me, to love me, but don't fall in love
To hold me, to hold me, to hold me, but not for too long
I want you to love me, to love me, but don't fall in love
'Cause I'm not the one to love"

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True another wise ML told me… see everyone, fuck all the girls but don’t give your heart to anyone. Enjoy your life!!!

After being an idiot in thi area a couple of times, what works for me is to have the right mindset of why I am seeing them. Folks call it a transaction. I have to go further than that.

My mindset going into the punt is not to have s girlfriend experience but I am going to have sex, hard dirty sex.

It doesn’t change how I treat her, always respect them and treat them well but I no longer engage things such as talk too much, cuddle for too long, etc… if we cuddle, I get hard again and I get her to either suck me or ride me. I go for rounds 2 and 3 and avoid all the conversation, etc…

It has worked well.

If I am out with a SB I no longer walk around holding hands or doing anything that resembles a relationship. I may see them outside the shop but my mindset is different than before.

It has worked, I have had more and better sex and if I get the smallest hint of the feels I get her to bend over and I fuck her real hard in doggy and finish in her mouth. Get her to clean up my dick with her tongue. Would never ask a girlfriend to do that.

So I get better sex, more sex and no feels

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Originally Posted by ditchtheboss

After being an idiot in thi area a couple of times, what works for me is to have the right mindset of why I am seeing them. Folks call it a transaction. I have to go further than that.

My mindset going into the punt is not to have s girlfriend experience but I am going to have sex, hard dirty sex.

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I'm a bit of a hopeless romantic, always have been since I was a teen.... I'm probably in the wrong 'hobby'!

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Originally Posted by Nelly69

speaking of which, I saw a big bunch of flowers delivered to SBM the other day. was wondering if it was one of the punters here was dating a ML. lol

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yikes, is it me or is sending flowers to a shop kinda cringy? I wouldn't mind sending flowers to a girl's office, but the shop, I'm not sure about that one.