The referendum, yes or no?

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Originally Posted by pornonporn

Have you seen Kamahl's reason why he changed to no

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Why are people so unkind?

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Originally Posted by pornonporn

Have you seen Kamahl's reason why he changed to no

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Didn’t Kamahl go from No to Yes then back to No?
I don’t rely on him for informed opinions, so no, I don’t know his reasons.
But I believe the No vote will win, even with their scare campaigns. The lack of compassion in the community is widespread and quite shocking. But we’ll cheer them on in the GF.

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Originally Posted by Soccerfan

Clive Palmer will spend millions ensuring the No vote gets up, I wonder why? This is the guy who refused to pay his own workers while jet setting around the world and falling asleep in parliament. The majority of the politicians voting No are self serving liberals with no moral or ethical compass. They’re all about me me me me me. The No argument is headed by some of the nastiest people in Australia. That in itself should says enough.

Imagine being guests in a house and wishing ill on the people who live there? Unbelievable we we all agree we have won the lottery of life that we’re in Australia yet we can’t allow the original inhabitants the opportunities that are not provided to them. Change needs to happen, it will take generations but it has to start somewhere and education is key.

This is just an advisory group looking out for their best interests and there’s nothing wrong with that. Canberra is full of lobby groups wanting to impart us from our money. I’m guessing the indigenous people will likely have decent ideas of where the money should go and how it should be spent.

People saying that Mundine and Price should be listened to? Your kidding!! They are Libs through and through and are just following the party playbook. They’re already receiving their payoffs.

The people talking about the lack of detail, how many of you have checked out the yes23 website? Plenty of detail on there.
Imagine having the opportunity to improve the lives of one of the most vulnerable and disadvantaged people in our country, let alone the original inhabitants that give us our own unique cultural identity, and not taking it.

When people talk about the challenges in remote communities, all I see are reasons to vote Yes.

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The nastiness comes pretty much from the YES side of the argument...have you heard the shit coming out of Marcia Langtons and Noel Pearsons gobs...they are seriously nasty cunts.

As for Anthony Mundine...agreed, he is a fuckwit but Jacinta Price is living amongst the most suffering and trying her best to improve things but the current government will not listen to her , just in spite. Langton lives in Melbourne in a very comfortable unit, Pearson somewhere in Cairns. Price begged Albanese to go to Alice Springs to see what was going on there and the little cunt spent 3 or 4 hours there, much against his will. He did not want to know about what was going on there. Prices heart is with her people, Pearson and Langton want a bigger slice of the public purse for themselves and their empires.

As for us looking up what the Voice is all about....if Albanese or the others cannot spend 15 minutes to tell the public all the details, why should the public have to look it up. If he was genuine, he should fucking be a man and tell the nation. The cunt has been everywhere (soccer, football, concerts , overseas etc) except telling us all the details and implications.

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Originally Posted by kingwally

The nastiness comes pretty much from the YES side of the argument...have you heard the shit coming out of Marcia Langtons and Noel Pearsons gobs...they are seriously nasty cunts.

As for Anthony Mundine...agreed, he is a fuckwit but Jacinta Price is living amongst the most suffering and trying her best to improve things but the current government will not listen to her , just in spite. Langton lives in Melbourne in a very comfortable unit, Pearson somewhere in Cairns. Price begged Albanese to go to Alice Springs to see what was going on there and the little cunt spent 3 or 4 hours there, much against his will. He did not want to know about what was going on there. Prices heart is with her people, Pearson and Langton want a bigger slice of the public purse for themselves and their empires.

As for us looking up what the Voice is all about....if Albanese or the others cannot spend 15 minutes to tell the public all the details, why should the public have to look it up. If he was genuine, he should fucking be a man and tell the nation. The cunt has been everywhere (soccer, football, concerts , overseas etc) except telling us all the details and implications.

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What did Marcia Langton and Noel Pearson say? Jacinta Price said Aboriginal people benefited from colonialism and Warren Mundine said the voice is a declaration or war.
And what does it matter that Marcia Langton lives in “a comfortable unit”? She’s worked and fought her whole life for Aboriginal issues and not for the money. Where do you think Jacinta Price lives? Plenty of people in the Aboriginal people have come out saying she doesn’t speak for them.

Can't say I have ever encountered an aborigine or Islander WL.

It's okay to say no.

Plenty of yes campaign, I wonder why there isn't a No campaign to keep things balanced

I just don't like the lies of the government
For example saying 80% of indigenous people agree with the voice from a survey.
I don't know a single aboriginal that was surveyed.

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Originally Posted by Smartmover

It's okay to say no.

I wonder why there isn't a No campaign to keep things balanced

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You cannot be serious

I know of a lot of Aboriginal organisations that don't agree with the voice but are only agreeing with the voice because the government is giving them money and if they say no they won't receive money

Yes voters want racism enshrined into the constitution. Ask yourself this, would aboriginal people ever agree to give YOU special privileges? No? Then why would you offer them such privileges? Because you're a virtue signalling beta cuck?

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Originally Posted by pornonporn

I know of a lot of Aboriginal organisations that don't agree with the voice but are only agreeing with the voice because the government is giving them money and if they say no they won't receive money

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Which organisations?

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Originally Posted by ReginaldBubbles

Which organisations?

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I can't say

But for those who are strong for yes
Let me ask you what have you done for Indigenous people besides campaigning for a yes vote

I have spent every weekend volunteering in Redfern and have not met anyone who wants a yes

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Originally Posted by pornonporn

I can't say

But for those who are strong for yes
Let me ask you what have you done for Indigenous people besides campaigning for a yes vote

I have spent every weekend volunteering in Redfern and have not met anyone who wants a yes

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……..sure you have

sure you have as well

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Originally Posted by pornonporn

I can't say

But for those who are strong for yes
Let me ask you what have you done for Indigenous people besides campaigning for a yes vote

I have spent every weekend volunteering in Redfern and have not met anyone who wants a yes

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Every weekend volunteering in Redfern lol! I find that hard to believe but ok good for you.

I know a lot of Aboriginal people and my extended family has worked with Aboriginal education organisations over many years and I've done plenty of helping. I might even be Aboriginal for all you know.
There is nothing to lose from a yes vote. There's no fine print, racism, special privileges or whatever the fuck.

But Dutton has done a masterful job of running the negative campaign and "If you don't know, vote no" is a masterful slogan for the lazy and ignorant.
Australia was built on racism and it remains large in our culture to this day.
Except now it's apparently more offensive to point out racism than it is to actually have opinions and actions that further historic institutional racism.

Apologies for the big words.

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Originally Posted by ReginaldBubbles

What did Marcia Langton and Noel Pearson say? Jacinta Price said Aboriginal people benefited from colonialism and Warren Mundine said the voice is a declaration or war.
And what does it matter that Marcia Langton lives in “a comfortable unit”? She’s worked and fought her whole life for Aboriginal issues and not for the money. Where do you think Jacinta Price lives? Plenty of people in the Aboriginal people have come out saying she doesn’t speak for them.

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Marcia Langton said anyone who supports the NO side is racist and stupid, Pearson has called Price all sorts of belittling names and saying she is punching down on blackfellas...really stupid stuff and not at all helping the YES side.

Jacinta Price is living right at the coal face of poverty and abuse at Alice Springs, and sees it all unfold daily. Langton and Pearson are far removed from the troubles by living in the cities. Pearson is in control of various Indigenous organizations in far North Queensland that has had in excess of $550 million paid to them over the years yet the people up there still live in squaller...where has the money gone? Certainly not to the people who need it.

I have had experience of living in and near places in FNQ where houses have been built for the local Indigenous people, paid for by the taxpayer to various Indigenous organizations, and these places have been ruined within months of completion by the people living in them...the cause of the problem is and always will be alcohol...the inhabitants start drinking, the fights start, then the places get smashed to pieces.

Dont be fooled by this government, it is all about Albanese and his ego...he wants to think he is Australias Nelson Mandela. the Labor governments are all about big ideas but has no idea of how to deliver practical solutions. A good start would be to ban alcohol all over the nation to everyone, but as a beer drinker who descended from hungry penniless impoverished Irish migrants in the 1860s, I know that will never happen.

FYI...some contacts of mine in FNQ tell me that the YES campaign are offering people $1000 to vote YES...I suppose they have to do something with the $200 million that the corporates are giving them. The NO side has nothing like this sort of money.

You have nailed it Kingwally. Also Jacinta Price has offered to debate Albo, Pearson, Burney Mayo, Parkin etc but no takers yet. I wonder why? All that will come out of Albo's and Labors mess is that down the track Jacinta Price will become PM.

But Albo gwoo up in a council fwat!

Kingwally for PM!... a bukake party is in order if he runs for parliament.

I have a close relative who is a social worker in the NT. Says Jacinta just comes out for the Sky News cameras and is motivated by coal money from Gina and Clive. Ultimate aunt Jemima but can’t blame her as there’s good money in being a brown person being paid by white billionaires to say what they want you to say. Just ask Candace Owens