What Japanese sex workers think of punters

Straight from the horse’s mouth:

夜職って本当に気軽に働くものじゃ無い。働いたら、自己肯定感は低いのにプライドは高い見た目だけに気を遣 って金のことしか考えてないXで他人を貶すモンスターになる。ほぼ全員こうなる。みんな夜職やる前はいい子 ですくすく育ってたのに…金と引き換えに人生の豊かさが減るから夜職は最終手段です

Working at night is not really easy to work. If you work, you will become a monster who belittles others with X, which only cares about money and cares only about money, even though you have a low sense of self-affirmation. Almost everyone will be like this. Before everyone did the night job, she was a good girl and grew up... In exchange for money, the richness of life decreases, so night work is a last resort.

Also don’t feel special when a WL gives you her number, she’s most likely given to heaps of others and is giving it to you because she doesn’t want to deal with how you will react if she says no. They are here just for the money. Just like any service based job, money is the drive and if the client is easy to deal with that just means they have it a little easier but they don’t care about you at the end of the day.

I've noticed the usual punters who write about how many orgasm they give to the girls are unusually silent in this thread particularly.

This post is the reason I like visiting MLs more than WLs, chick who has to take 10 dicks a day and objectify their body as sex tool to continue working, unless she has sex addiction then you are just fucking a hot physico.
I’m not talking about Chinese grandma that can only relay on massage to sell their sex services, I’m talking about young and pretty massage ladies that can have a choice to decide whom and what to serve, i found them genuinely more mentally stable and easier to build a connection.

another one :

>> .、うんこ.って.ね
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>> Girls, good job today
>> Customer, eat shit and die

.... should be the standard greeting when you walk into shop
:-)

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Originally Posted by pmmeyourknee_

They’ve lured many men here out of thousands of dollars while talking shit behind the scene. I'm here to stop that. Don't put these girls on a pedestal bros. If I expose them some idiot could end up getting the girls in trouble.
What I've shared here is nothing compared to what they said in private.

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A noble cause indeed. An anti white knight.

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Originally Posted by HiredGoon

A noble cause indeed. An anti white knight.

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As the black knight chants "cheat to win"

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Originally Posted by Meng

I've noticed the usual punters who write about how many orgasm they give to the girls are unusually silent in this thread particularly.

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I thought exactly the same. How about those who post that she was horny for him. Same thing

Hmmm. Quite an interesting thread.

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Originally Posted by Meng

I've noticed the usual punters who write about how many orgasm they give to the girls are unusually silent in this thread particularly.

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Mate, just because they may secretly despise me, doesn’t mean I can’t make ‘em cum.

Or at least they’re good enough at their jobs that their reactions allow me to suspend my disbelief, lol.

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

Mate, just because they may secretly despise me, doesn’t mean I can’t make ‘em cum.

Or at least they’re good enough at their jobs that their reactions allow me to suspend my disbelief, lol.

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Yes, it is exactly that -- a well-documented psychological concept -- suspension of disbelief. Just like when you go to see a movie at the cinema, and while watching it, you don't think of the fact that they are all actors and people holding cameras.

Some of those Japanese/Korean girls have 50 to 85 punters fucking them every week, and they don't actually enjoy strange men (no matter how James Bond looking you are) fucking them or going down on them. It's a job, and it's all about $$$$$$$$$

When ever a WL say she’s cumming, to me she meant to say hurry up and finish already. I guess it’s ok if you guys think you made her cum 😉

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Originally Posted by Icegodofhungary

Based on what I’ve heard from a couple of different j girls plus my own research when I was trying to understand this whole host club / host debt thing is that being handsome is NOT a requirement for a host. Bonus, but not the point. These girls often are pretty and can no doubt pick up guys, even handsome guys. What they WANT is a guy who is extremely charming, very well groomed / styled, and totally devoted to and focused on THEM … or at least giving that appearance for the period they’re being paid. Basically no real guy (handsome or otherwise) is going to be able to live up to those traits. Apparently even a pretty average looking guy can make a decent living as a host with the right training and approach.

In that respect these host addicted girls are basically the equivalent of the sad lonely dudes who pay to see prostitutes just to talk and have some company.

Again, I don’t think host addicted girls necessarily constitute ‘most’ J WLs.

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What these hosts are doing is basically exactly the same thing that thirsty dudes and simp's are doing already. Totally devoted to her and all his attention on her. But for normal average guys and/or old bald fat Farangs, the girl will label this as "creepy" and "desperate" behaviour

The only difference is, that the hosts are handsome AF. THIS is what gets the girls addicted. It doesn't work if the guy is ugly or just average looking.

I am still utterly convinced that these Japanese WL's will be more genuine and enjoy her time more with the customer, if he is young and/or handsome.

No girl will enjoy sleeping with an old bald fat Farang. Even if he is paying. Even if its her job and she is just about the money. So if she had a choice, she would enjoy getting paid sleeping with a young handsome guy more

Reverse the roles, for all the punters here who work in customer service. You will *subconsciously* enjoy serving young, pretty girls more than the old fat ugly ladies. Its the exact same thing. These girls are human and will like some customers more than others

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

What these hosts are doing is basically exactly the same thing that thirsty dudes and simp's are doing already. Totally devoted to her and all his attention on her. But for normal average guys and/or old bald fat Farangs, the girl will label this as "creepy" and "desperate" behaviour

The only difference is, that the hosts are handsome AF. THIS is what gets the girls addicted. It doesn't work if the guy is ugly or just average looking.

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Appearance is only a small part of it. The majority of hosts are not conventionally handsome. A lot of them are pretty weedy guys caked in makeup. However, they are trained by the club to know how to manipulate vulnerable women. They are literally given scripts to work off. Your average girl isn't going to fall for it, but, just like punters who fall in love with WL, there are plenty of girls who fall for the act of a host.

The first visit is usually free or very cheap. The host will use this visit to form a connection and get a bead on what kind of woman he is dealing with. He wants someone who will be taken in hook, line and sinker. Numbers are exchanged. He will text all the girls on his roster with the same scripted slop. Smart girls see this for what it is, but vulnerable girls tell themselves that it is real. These guys are very smooth operators. They have all the industry secrets and know exactly what to say. A classic line is, "I'm sorry to hear you're not feeling well. I want to cook some congee for you to make you feel better." Some customers lap this shit up.

He will make promises to the women on his roster, telling them that he is so busy with work. If only his rank was higher (Hosts are ranked based on how much money they bring in to the club), he wouldn't need to work as hard, and he could spend more quality time with her. Customers are charged more and more for repeat business, drinks get more and more expensive as the night goes on, and if they aren't careful, customers end up going into debt. They are encouraged to bring their friends in to support their favourite host, and the cycle begins again.

It's basically toxic punting for women, and it's not that different to punters who go to sex shops, strip clubs etc. Women go to have their emotional needs met. The hosts make them feel beautiful and desired.

One interesting takeaway is that it's really not all about looks. Hosts are automatically considered to be attractive because they are marketed as such by the shops. "If he works here then he must be attractive." "If my friend thinks he is attractive, he must be attractive." "He is so confident and cool around women, so he must be attractive." Punters face the opposite perception. "If he's punting, he must be unattractive."

Hosts are basically scumbag psychopaths- true wolves in sheep's clothing. Their goal is to completely empty the accounts of their marks and place them in debt. The average WL is way more ethical. There is an honesty to most punting transactions. I pay for sex, then I leave. If it was any good, I might come back. WL aren't looking to completely financially ruin you.

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

I am still utterly convinced that these Japanese WL's will be more genuine and enjoy her time more with the customer, if he is young and/or handsome.

No girl will enjoy sleeping with an old bald fat Farang. Even if he is paying. Even if its her job and she is just about the money. So if she had a choice, she would enjoy getting paid sleeping with a young handsome guy more

Reverse the roles, for all the punters here who work in customer service. You will *subconsciously* enjoy serving young, pretty girls more than the old fat ugly ladies. Its the exact same thing. These girls are human and will like some customers more than others

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You could save a lot of time by making and saving a form post.

Just catching up on all these posts, this thread is hilarious lol :miao:

Like others, I’m also curious what else is said and would be keen to see their social media handles. OP already mentioned that these are publicly available social media handles. Some WLs are even more open minded by offering filming with face. So if anything from a privacy perspective, sharing something that "publicly available" shouldn’t be such a big drama?

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Originally Posted by andrewv

Yes, it is exactly that -- a well-documented psychological concept -- suspension of disbelief. Just like when you go to see a movie at the cinema, and while watching it, you don't think of the fact that they are all actors and people holding cameras.

Some of those Japanese/Korean girls have 50 to 85 punters fucking them every week, and they don't actually enjoy strange men (no matter how James Bond looking you are) fucking them or going down on them. It's a job, and it's all about $$$$$$$$$

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Oh, I'm very far from James Bond looking, but I do enjoy a good movie, and some of these girls must be fucking good actors (it's all the practice from the 50-85 punters a week). Very happy to suspend my disbelief. I don't really care one way or another if I make her cum (or if that's even plausible once these girls get so jaded and worn out, and hate us all), but if she's going to the effort of faking a very realistic seeming orgasm complete with physiological effects and the whole works, then I'm going to appreciate her craft and take pleasure from the fact that she's so dedicated to her job (or thinks the repeat custom is worth it, even with the other 49 - 84 guys she still needs to service over the week) that she wants me to imagine I can get her off EVEN THOUGH she actually despises me. Look at that, turns out these girls are good at stroking my cock AND my ego.

We're all paying for an illusion, a separation from reality anyway. The punter who's such a manly man that he just wants to stick his dick in as many of her holes as possible while calling her a deceptive manipulative whore who just wants to steal his money, then cums and leaves before he can risk accidentally treating her like a person is paying for the illusion of a place and time when that's acceptable for anyone but rapists or complete bastards. The punter who's so sad and lonely that he thinks the girl actually loves him, and he's just as likely to pay for her to talk to him or hug him or whatever for an hour as he is for sex, is paying for the illusion that this beautiful girl would even give him the time of day in the real world. And the punter who likes to think he gets the girl off and she physically enjoys it pays for the illusion that he's still got it, that he can make a beautiful girl get wet and go weak at the knees.

Hopefully we're all self aware enough when we get out of that room that we ARE paying for an illusion. Would probably also reduce the subdued rage from some quarters that these women actually don't like us at all and dare to voice their opinions.

I think its all a laugh; I'm going to keep paying for an illusion I can enjoy and not worry too much about the useless noise except for amusement value.

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Originally Posted by Candy1234

When ever a WL say she’s cumming, to me she meant to say hurry up and finish already. I guess it’s ok if you guys think you made her cum ��

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Haha, yeah both parts of what you say are pretty much true.

Most of the time it probably still means that when a non-WL woman says that to me too, I still want to think I made her cum lol.

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Originally Posted by ChadThunderrcock

What these hosts are doing is basically exactly the same thing that thirsty dudes and simp's are doing already. Totally devoted to her and all his attention on her. But for normal average guys and/or old bald fat Farangs, the girl will label this as "creepy" and "desperate" behaviour

The only difference is, that the hosts are handsome AF. THIS is what gets the girls addicted. It doesn't work if the guy is ugly or just average looking.

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You kind of repeated half of what I wrote man, but then missed the point about the hosts NOT having to be handsome to do their job. Your cock must be thundering too loud for you to hear Chad (good fucking name by the way). My point is explained much better in the post by Daysgone.