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It may be an effective way for shops to advertise, but lets say there are 5 more shops doing this, the whole AR section would soon be full of NOTHING and eventually the regulars will take their posts else where, and the guests will have nothing to read.
I thought you said the last post was your last on this subject ? :miao:Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoBot
Anyway, as you said, you've been using the same reasoning for a long time now, and it's always been like this on this forum, so what has happened ? Users have doubled in the last 2 years !
As I've also said many times before, if there is such a need, I'm sure Admin will introduced new sections like The Private Massage Report.
I reckon the amount of money being spent punting by forum readers is fairly constant on average.
So the spamming advertisers are trying to increase their share from us.
Each of them will try to do this in their own way, using one or more techiniques, Eg:
- provide up to date roster info
- give good info about their girls: size, dimensions, services, etc
- provide pictures
- encourage punters to write reports
- spam
- others ...
Spamming appears to be the low cost shortcut way to try to increase market share, since you are not really adding any value or doing any "work" as such.
But does it work ?
I think once a punter has frequented a place a few times they will form an opinion about whether that place is worth visiting for various reasons:
- easy to contact and organise a time/lady
- keeping bookings
- truthfullness of info and pictures
- quality of ladies
- services actually offered
- value for money
- location
- others ...
I think most/all of us repeat punters ignore the spam as best we can and dont' even read it, so it's pointless in the main.
I think spam may only work to attract interest from first time customers to a shop, however the more savy potential punters will be
looking at the rosters and girl details and then reading any real AR's and base their decision on this.
If spam does attract interest then the points above about increasing market share come into play.
The only reason I can see spam working then is to attract mug punters.
If I was running a shop I would provide rolling daily updates to my roster thread, in the roster section looking forward a few days, and also details/pictures of the girls etc, either via weblink or in the actual post. (Via a weblink would be better as it's not just forum readers who will potentially see it). I would provide quality girls at a good price and then I would expect good ARs.
If I had low quality girls and was not offering good value then I would rely on spamming to get a constant stream of first timers to my shop.
So if a shop had high quality girls and offered good value it doesn't make sense to spam, it won't increase business, it is actually bad for business because you will annoy people.
Bro PhoBot,Quote:
Originally Posted by PhoBot
I agree, but...
What do you mean by "eventually"?
I have already seen a decline in the number of AR's compared to year ago.
That's not the case, as simple as that !Quote:
Originally Posted by CunningLinguist
All the bumped threads are of girls that are currently most famous, well known on quality and service, so this theory doesn't work. The fact is, you might have read ten good reports and have ten good girls in mind for your next punt, there's a good chance that the first name that comes into your mind at the right time will get the booking, the right time is the time when you're horny and want to punt !
Those who complain are mainly non-customers of those shops, that's why they ( those shop owners who like bumping threads ) don't care less If their business suffers because of this, I don't think they will continue doing so !
Simple solution..stop those that are bumping their threads from doing it. There is nothing wrong with advertising, when its over done it becomes a deterrence.
Those that are bumping already have established client's and there is no real need for it. Threads from the offending colours for me are skipped when I read here (which I enjoy).
Edit - just my opinion, might mean crap all!
I'm not sure if this is true, I thought we have more reports than before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Licker
If you talk about a decline in After Reports, it happens everywhere, as someone mentioned a month or so ago that's what happened at Auxxxreviews, and Sydney99 has gained an average of 100 users in peak hours since.
One more thing, the quality of reports have improved tremendously over the last 2 year, from factual stattistical reports to detailed and entertaining reports with feelings and we love to spend time reading, so this site is on the right track !
I don't know if you are taking the piss on this.. coz I don't think Yamada has slowed down.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
It would be obvious if Admin said something on this thread and they haven't!
So you haven't been following this thread !Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
As I said earlier, Yamada used to post 10-15 threads at a time, several times a day, now down to 5-6 threads at a time, if this is not slowing down, what is ? Whether it's slowing down enough is another story !
And also, if you have been following the forum, you would have read one member said he knew for sure all shop owners have received a PM from Admin regarding this issue !
The updated threads definitely slowed down for around a week.
But they are slowly getting back to previous levels.
The thing is as soon as one shop does it then the others do as well to keep up.
So the truce never holds.
I think we just have to get used to it happening
As I said earlier it's a cheap and effective way for the shops to reach new customers so of course they will keep on doing it.
We have to accept the fact that they are running a business and they use this forum as a means of promoting their business and reaching new customers.
Some of us that used to write reports very regularly slowed down because of other punters making suggestions that they are fabricated or because of personal attacks. My after reports take me a lot of time so sometimes it's easier not to write them than cop the flack. What I do like is that one of my AR's of Tiffany SF has over 3500 views.
That's another problem the site Admin has to stamp out, the cynical comments and attacks against reviewers ! Usually those who complain don't write reports themselves !Quote:
Originally Posted by jellyshots
Not sure if you can count but I can see over 10 today by Yamada.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
But hey I'm not here to pick on comments and if Admin has sent PM to shop owners, I am satisfied.
At least they are trying to take on board our feedback and tried to do something.
Not sure if you can understand text, did you understand what is meant by 10-15 at a time ? Several times a day ? Do a calculation, that would become 50-60 a day, not just over 10 !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
So I should be grateful that it isn't 50-60 a day?! I think u missed the point of my post. If Admin tried to do something I am happy. I'm not saying what the shop owners are doing is bad as long as they follow the rules, just like we are supposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
You're the one who missed the point, I didn't quote your words, it was you who quoted my words in the first place !Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
I corrected you because you said Yamada hasn't slowed down which he has, and I also corrected you when you said Admin hasn't done anything which he also has. Whether you should be happy about that or not is not my concern.
Don't feel the need to keep correcting me if it isn't ur concern then.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
So don't quote other people's words if you don't want to be corrected !Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
So it's ok for u to nit-pick my words and quote it out of context. If I wanted to nit-pick and defend my comments I could but it wasn't what I was trying to get across. I was trying to be constructive!Quote:
Originally Posted by wilisno
Frankly u can continue to do so as u feel great pleasure in correcting people.
You really have problem reading text, don't you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beancounter
I didn't quote your words, I responded to your quoting my words, understand ?
Once again, don't quote other people's words if you don't want to be corrected !