I read entire topic but not sure what SA means. Do you use SA to refer to seeking.com?
There is also some mention of SD. I assume that is Sugar Daddy?
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I read entire topic but not sure what SA means. Do you use SA to refer to seeking.com?
There is also some mention of SD. I assume that is Sugar Daddy?
Having a photo of yourself with a pet, especially a dog, is great on traditional dating sites. It isn’t quite as relevant on SA as the girls are not looking for a guy to take home to mum.
Not sure why there is so much doubt about the value in the Sydney market.
I got asked on PM what the going rate is for Sugarbabes. My response, as always, is that there is none and don't let anyone quote a "going rate" to you.
Last night I enjoyed a lovely European lass from out Potts Point way. 24, slim, shaved, easygoing and a lot of fun for the grand high sum of $300 + ubereats dinner for four hours. Two rounds of sex and a lot of chill time in-between. She's on the regular roster now. We'll get tested and go BB next time around.
After lots of online chat and several pre-meets up on the Gold Coast on my first two days up here, my conclusion is that there remains good value in the sub-$500 bracket.
What differentiates this market is the playground nature - a kind of little Vegas feel about it. It’s easy to get sucked into that psychology and the plastic, lip filled girls who live up here and are peddling their influencer lifestyle. Anyone under the age of 30 whose business card describes them as a life coach while wanting to fuck me for money, gives me the Jim Carrey eyebrow raise. Still, I enjoyed sitting in the sunshine with an insta model while they did what they could to lure me in, with their hot pants riding up their ass.
My infrequent regular on the Gold Coast (borders and interstate business permitting) started at $500 (the first time we met) and then quickly moved to $400 for the next two night stay and this time will be $800 for three nights and I’ll pick up the tab for our three nights out on the town. In all, I will probably lay out about $1,500 for the three nights including great food and wine at some top restaurants. When you consider that I’m sleeping next to a sun bronzed, gorgeous beach girl who treats me like her personal sex toy for three days, I think that is extraordinary value for money.
What does she get out of it? The fantasy of a travelling executive who wine, dines and fucks her and treats her the way she wishes the boys on tinder would.
We’re both playing to each other’s fantasy - it’s a win win collaboration.
In general news, I'm noticing a lot more uni students joining SA this week in Sydney and Melbourne. A few have said they have recently moved out of home and can't get as many shifts (hospitality) or part time is not as plentiful as they had expected. I've also come across many more young professionals who want to have a bit of no strings fun on the side.
In two pre-meets this week, I was surprised at how well researched the girls were about the SD life.
One just wants to fly up and down on business trips with me and stay in nice hotels and will return the favour so to speak. I need to think through how that will work in terms of money and also around managing privacy when doing phone calls home.
The other one loves lingerie and bikinis and says she wants to go shopping each time we meet. Not sure I can take that much time out, so will think about whether to transfer the funds so she can shop and then meet her that night. She is Melbourne based, so it would only be when I am down there.
My friend enjoys SB arrangements because he doesn't want commitment. He enjoys taking his girls out to dinner and shopping. The girls love lingerie and shoes which he would purchase for them. Sometimes he gets sex out of them however, he would never invite them to his home. The girls don't invite him either which means he had to book hotel rooms for any hookups. As a guy, going shopping is not an exciting activity but also booking hotel rooms all the time would be an extra expense for the guy. Ultimately, it's up to the person what arrangement they want. However it all looks too much effort when you can go to a shop and get what you want unless you want companionship and dining out together.
The way I do it is not for everyone @cuteguy.
There are plenty of girls on the site who will meet you in a hotel to fuck if that's what you want. I do enjoy the time and the foreplay. I like living the double life and I find the sex gets better with each meet.
Three days in QLD with the girl I see when I am up there. Three overnights in an apartment (my partner knew I was at a work conference during the day) and dinners + evenings of BB sex including BBanal. 7 rounds of sex over three days in total. I think it was worth the effort. Others may too.
Thanks and replied to your PM. You must have posted enough messages in general forum.
Down in Melbourne for two days this week. The beauty of living in Sydney and commuting for project work is that the girls interstate who are afraid of you wanting a relationship, are very happy to meet up with you.
Wednesday’s treat is a girl who asked me to fill out a list of kinks for comparison with her over dinner. If we match in enough places, we’re going back to hers to play. This should be fun.
Hi Frank - thanks for your comment and your question. I’m sorry to hear you did not have much luck. There is much more information out there on Sugarbabes these days - especially since I first started, when all there was were a few lurking reddit threads. I would avoid those as they are mainly written up by girls who are trying to score the highest bidder.
The naked truth sugarbabe forum has probably the most extensive database of the girls on seeking, the scammers and the pricing negotiations if you are interested.
Most of the other forums are geared towards MLs and WLs. Nothing wrong with that - it’s just two different channels, like Carsales.com and Boatsales.com. Guys who drive cars may also buy a boat one day, not often the other way around - if you get my meaning?
To your specific question - I would be starting to warm up the market that you are coming from about two weeks out.
Start chatting to girls and give them time to organize their diaries. There are a few other ideas I have for you, based on my own travels, but I suggest you sign up first and then we chat. Feel free to PM me as well.
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Yep... We need to pay for the chat. Subscribe for a month, see how it works and make sure you get the contacts in wechat or kik to continue the arrangement for the longer run. Most of them will be upfront on their expectations, chat wisely there are few scammers. This thread has insights on that as well. Cheers!
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Thanks Scottie. I appreciate your feedback.
Think of it this way - you are on a site where girls are looking for wealthier, mature guys to spoil them. If you can’t even stump up the money to talk to them, what does that say about you and why would they want to pick you?
I would agree with Kiddoh. Start with a month and see how you go.
Serious question BennyB, you obviously have an account that your Minister of Finance and War doesn't have access too?
How do you pay a sub to the forum otherwise? How do you avoid getting caught at tax time or do you do your taxes separately?
Shows how limited your knowledge of anthropology is. Along with your knowledge of Sugarbabes Doby. You really should get some sunlight. You are starting to sound like Gollum.
Hi Essy
Good questions. And ones I fortunately worked out when I was still punting in brothels and with Privates.
A few things on this
1. The Minister for War is as tight as. So I never battle her head on. It’s a losing proposition.
2. A few years ago I set up separate online accounts on my banking app. You can do this without needing any paper work and without getting any paperwork in the mail.
3. I get part of my salary and my bonuses sent to that account. I use those for punting. I always have reasonable increases going through the main account, so that it is not suspicious, but the sleeper account in my name only is also set to private mode and so not shown on the Home Screen of my banking app.
4. I don’t keep a card for that account - I do cardless cash withdrawals.
5. I will, with my regulars, use PayID as it is easier and also out of the private account
6. Tax time - is all done by my tax accountant. As I’m the finance guy in the house, I do all the paperwork - the MoW is not interested in the slightest. She tried it once and got sick of it after a week of it. So now it’s my “chore” to do :-)
7. Subs to SA - I don’t actually pay these through my sleeper account, I pay these through an Australia Post card (Cash Passport) that I set up years ago. It functions like a debit card.
Hope this helps answer the questions, but let me know if not.
Thanks Brother Benny for your insight in this . I have personally explored the world of SB and have to say it's a bit of a hit and miss.
Recently met two genuine SBs and they are now rostered :)
Thanks for sharing. I agree with you.
What I like is that I can spend enough time limiting the downside risk (by getting to know them before deciding whether to progress into bed) and the upside is quite often another level.
It can be hit and miss - but isn’t that like all punting?