The referendum, yes or no?

In the event of failure, I volunteer to be the Voice. Just give me the phone numbers of the boss man or woman from every remote community and I'll ring them every couple of months and ask what they most need to improve their lives. For equipment I'll only need a notebook and pen beside the phone to make a checklist.

So that I am a literal Voice I'll record the results on a cassette deck and post it registered to parliament every couple of months - geared to self-destruct in five seconds. But don't worry if you don't get it all down because there will be a new updated cassette in a couple of months and there is bound to be plenty of repetition on them anyway.

For the rest of it I'll collect my 500K a year salary, and save them the odd 400 mill it will otherwise cost.

I won't say my opinion, but hasn't it been a great distraction from the Petrol price rises. That is what people should be mobilizing against

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Originally Posted by Jesus666

I won't say my opinion, but hasn't it been a great distraction from the Petrol price rises. That is what people should be mobilizing against

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If only we could do more than one thing at a time.

No.

There's a reason this is being pushed down our throats, and those reasons are usually not in our best interests, usually for someone else's interests. So just F them.

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Originally Posted by Smartmover

It's okay to say no.

Plenty of yes campaign, I wonder why there isn't a No campaign to keep things balanced

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Absolutely. It's a referendum. Both sides should have their time to promote. Not just one.
Secondly that clown Albanese shouldn't be spending his whole time promoting a side. He should be doing his job and fixing this mess of a country and remaining impartial.

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Originally Posted by faruk

No.

There's a reason this is being pushed down our throats, and those reasons are usually not in our best interests, usually for someone else's interests. So just F them.

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End of the day if YES wins it will cost us the taxpayers more money. There no doubt will be reparation taxes on things like rates etc. No doubt.
We the ones not involved in the colonialisation will be paying money to people also not involved in the colonisation. And with the huge living costs going on we all cannot afford it.

It's just so Latrell Mitchell can get the Bunnies captaincy.

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Originally Posted by Smartmover

It's okay to say no.

Plenty of yes campaign, I wonder why there isn't a No campaign to keep things balanced

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There is a no campaign. But they get shut down as being haters. Anyone else who publicly says they will vote no is also labelled as some sort of hater or racist.

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Originally Posted by faruk

There is a no campaign. But they get shut down as being haters. Anyone else who publicly says they will vote no is also labelled as some sort of hater or racist.

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You can blame social media, government disinformation, and the fucken cancel and woke cultures for all that shit.

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Originally Posted by Jesus666

I won't say my opinion, but hasn't it been a great distraction from the Petrol price rises. That is what people should be mobilizing against

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Great post

We will soon know just how much Australia wants to change their constitution to create another commitee

By the way, the person or persons, in this debate, including citizens and politicians, who needed to use "Left" "Right", "Racist" or other names have lost the debate straight away

The final referendum vote will show which name callers from which camp, the YES or NO most shot themselves in the foot

Australians will ultimately make the correct decision

It's like that adage "the first person to bring up Hitler" automatically loses. :shout:

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Originally Posted by John_Diaz

I don’t like people telling me what to do. TV Ad say vote “yes”, people on the street giving flyers telling me to vote “yes”, politicians the same. Why not explain to the people what is the referendum and let them f**** decide.

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Moron you can't work it out yourself

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Originally Posted by Rajaz

I assume this is a fun and safe question to ask here since we are almost just anonymous here. What are you going to vote for this referendum about the First Peoples of Australia?

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Good to see Australia is as racist as ever in 2023 you c#nt make me sick and I'm Anglo. Racist dog are here

You know this forum has a lot of trolls. They're as obnoxious as you can possibly imagine a human being can be. It's as if, when they found this forum that allows them to create an account without needing anything like an email address to proof that they were a unique person, whoa, boy, they go crazy. The heavens open up, a warm glow falls over their nutcase faces and they just go to town being as obnoxious as possible to anybody on here.

Now, many of these trolls often come here, post shit all day everyday taking all cummers, then they just disappear. For a long time, you don't hear a peep from them.

I honestly think, when that happens, that those trolls probably died somehow in real life because they must've trolled the wrong people out there in real life.

But nooo, some trolls just keep cumming back. Now those *must* be timid little mice out there in real life. Probably jumps at a shadow. A complete no balls coward. They'd only put on their tough guy shit here, cos if they did this out there they'd be dead by now somewhere in the gutter.

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Originally Posted by 4647

Good to see Australia is as racist as ever in 2023 you c#nt make me sick and I'm Anglo. Racist dog are here

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This could be a good opportunity to explain or help people who are voting no because they don’t know what they are voting yes to better understand.

The biggest issue from what I can tell, is people really have no idea about the specifics of the “voice”, there are indigenous senators/members of parliament/indigenous minister, maybe hundreds of government and non government organisations for indigenous people , how specifically is the voice specifically going to change the current system, what are specific policies that the current system is lacking that the new system will fix and why is it absolutely essential to change the constitution when we already have so many advisory boards.

I’m sure racism has something to do with it for the minority of no voters, but you got to remember early this year it was 51% yes, 34% no and 15% undecided so if the polls are anything to go by, all of the 15% undecided have decided no and even original yes voters have changed to no. So were they not racist early in the year and all of a sudden have become racist?

Not everyone who will vote no is racist, but everyone who is racist will vote no.
Part of the problem is actually it's so simple and really not a big deal so people think there must be some underlying hidden ulterior motives and it's very easy for people like Dutton to use that fear and uncertainty for political purposes.

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Originally Posted by rooter

The history of the world and of humanity is one of conquest and war and genocide and rape and murder.
Australia is no exception.
It's just the way it is.
It's not pretty but that's just the way it is.

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Easy to say for a middle aged white guy with the funds and fortunate geographic location to fuck multiple Japanese teenagers every week! :shout:

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Originally Posted by Ziggurat

It's like that adage "the first person to bring up Hitler" automatically loses. :shout:

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Well said, exactly right

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Originally Posted by frisson

Well said, exactly right

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Only because of politically correctness. You're not allowed to compare anything to the holocaust. It's even considered anti-semitic to criticise Israel's atrocities.
Suggesting someone's actions might have underlying racist psychology isn't the same as bringing up Hitler or even name calling though.

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Originally Posted by ReginaldBubbles

Easy to say for a middle aged white guy with the funds and fortunate geographic location to fuck multiple Japanese teenagers every week! :shout:

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If you're trying to win people over to the Yes side, can you please quit attacking the "middle aged white guy"? That's racist as fuck. It makes it look like you want to vote Yes in spite of the white people, rather than for the good of the indigenous people.

Voting early today.

I'm Voting No.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

If you're trying to win people over to the Yes side, can you please quit attacking the "middle aged white guy"? That's racist as fuck. It makes it look like you want to vote Yes in spite of the white people, rather than for the good of the indigenous people.

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Well said, that is exactly what this referendum is all about.

As a group I would have thought that tolerance and understanding others point of view was a good idea. Just my 2cents.

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

That's racist as fuck.

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So is the racial separation that is being proposed by the voice.

Voting no tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by ReginaldBubbles

Not everyone who will vote no is racist, but everyone who is racist will vote no.
Part of the problem is actually it's so simple and really not a big deal so people think there must be some underlying hidden ulterior motives and it's very easy for people like Dutton to use that fear and uncertainty for political purposes.

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Not necessarily, there a lot of people who think white people are degenerate colonisers who are all voting yes.

You can blame racism and Dutton all you want, the fact you ignored everything in my previous post and went to racism is the problem. You’re one of the reasons why people are voting no.

I’ll ask you directly;

The biggest issue from what I can tell, is people really have no idea about the specifics of the “voice”, there are indigenous senators/members of parliament/indigenous minister, maybe hundreds of government and non government organisations for indigenous people , how specifically is the voice specifically going to change the current system, what are specific policies that the current system is lacking that the new system will fix and why is it absolutely essential to change the constitution when we already have so many advisory boards.