Finally theres some people on here who are sane and actually see the girls for how they really are.
Rather than simping, white knighting & defending these "Princesses" like some of the Low-Value Men on here.
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This is what I keep telling you all. No matter how much money you have or expensive gifts you give her, if you are ugly and not handsome, she will not appreciate you or anything you do for her.
For these girls to genuinely like you for who you are, you have to be good looking & handsome like Brad Pitt, Chris Hemsworth, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jackson Wang, SuperJunior Siwon, Daniel Henney or BTS Jimin.
Heck, these girls would even sleep with a broke guy for free if he was hot and good looking.
Whoever thinks having money will do you any favour is delusional and just compensating for what they lack in looks. All you are doing is marking yourself as an ATM machine to be used. While she gives your money to the handsome Japanese host she keeps going back to.
Holy shit another wisdom dropped. Appreciate your lessons here.
I agree that it's honestly pathetic how they pretend they don't need men, look down on us, while in reality, we are the ones feeding them LOL. Not other men they idolise, but us punters. We are their source of income.
They need us more than we need them right? If we all stop punting, we would still be fine with jerking off or free hookups, but what are they going to eat? If anything they should worship us, not the other way around.
Let’s face when it comes to women the “lil’ bro” makes a lot of decisions till you get burned.
Thinking about your post above even that ML I started a thread about (the one I dated) got shafted by one of her ML friends, they lend money and just don’t get it back. They think “oh she’s making money, she doesn’t need it”, but they all seem to have family OS and it’s a never ending drain on their finances. It’s even stressful for them. She’d tell me.
Look, quite a lot of the time I’d even contribute to various families overseas and I think I’ve mentioned it before. But unless you see a long term plan with a WL or ML it’s just pissing your money into the wind. I give $$$ to homeless people but the sad thing is that they’re always wanting and it never stops.
Once you start punting and if you like the flavour dating then are you going to settle down with just one? If so then can you trust her to be truthful, not even loyal as I’m not into loyalty though money can buy a degree of loyalty but being truthful is important. If so then you could give without hesitation but where do you find a truthful person?
WL’s and MLs by profession lie, lie to the punter, even simple lies such as flattery to retain a customer.
The guys on here that complain about losing a few grand so what? After a while it’s just a distant memory. Move on and make more money, making money is priority number one as it gives you the freedom to punt and not bitch about it.
No way I will be getting involved in their family mess.
I feel bad for the guy. She sent me couple messages to ask if I want to visit her this week but I likely wont be responding. Just the thought of some other man's kid being there makes me pretty disgusted tbh and full turned me off.
She'll likely block me soon like she does every once in awhile, only to come back again at a later date like she always does.
Time to go back to brothels for me to clear my head.
Being around people like this can get pretty depressing - even though the free sex is always tempting 🤣
Can you pm me? Been trying to get in touch but can’t pm you. I am currently in this situation.
There really should be a mandatory lesson on how not to be a simp before you're allowed to punt, like a driver's licence.
In the overall scheme of things, HAVE any punters lived off a WL or ML? There must be some working woman somewhere who is supporting an old bald fat farang of any nationality, yes?
If so I’d like to find out how he got into that arrangement as it’d make interesting reading.
I know about some of the partners of various working women and quite frankly I don’t see what the attraction is. It isn’t sex I can assure you of that…
Funny you say that - because in my experience, it’s the ugly looking ones who are the real manipulators. They can’t rely on looks, so they overcompensate with fake sweetness and full-blown GFE to trap suckers wearing different masks. Then they milk them for cash and ego boosts just to feel relevant completely losing their sense of self so I'm not that surprised the ML that ripped all these guys here off was ugly😅
Meanwhile, the really attractive model-tier MLs and WLs tend to set firmer boundaries, no pussy touching, no kissing etc - they get clients based on looks alone and often transition out of the industry more smoothly as they sold SOME but not ALL their soul.
Uglier ones need to keep a rotation of men even after they transition out the industry as they are so damaged they need simps to continually give them attention or they fall apart and one man is never enough no matter how kind, rich or good looking you are.
I asked chat for a list of things Sex workers would say to collect simps without accountability (some of this probably sounds familiar to you all 🤣)-
Here’s a refined set of manipulative lines in the voice of a sex worker who’s not fluent in english, but emotionally sharp - someone who plays the part well, and uses vulnerability, charm to disarm, entice, and control:
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💬 Lines from a Manipulative, Non-Native English Speaking Sex Worker
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🌶️ Blurring Work and Emotion
“I don’t meet clients outside… if I do that, it mean more than just work.”
“With you, is different. It not feel like just customer.”
“I try keep feelings out… but you, you make it hard.”
“Sometimes I forget this is job when I talk with you.”
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💎 Faux Vulnerability
“I not good at trusting. But I feel safe when is you.”
“You see me… not like most. That scare me little.”
“You make me feel like real woman, not just body.”
“I don’t tell this to others. Only you.”
“I don’t see anyone else right now.. Only you.”
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💰 Soft Financial Guilt
“I feel stupid to ask… but today very hard. I don’t want to bother you.”
“I try be strong always… but rent come and now I’m stuck.”
“You help me last time… it stay in my heart.”
“I not need much… just little help to breathe again.”
“I don’t mean to bother you and if you can't it ok..... But my grandma/mum/auntie is very sick now.”
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🧲 Emotional Push-Pull
“Sometimes I go quiet when I feel too much. Don’t be mad.”
“I don’t want lose you… but I also don’t want make you tired of me.”
“If I pull away… is because I care too much, not too little.”
“You give me peace… but I scared to ask you stay.”
“I still want you… but I also want to feel peace”
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🔥 Subtle Tease, Just Out of Reach
“If I was only yours… you not sleep at night.”
“You see what I show… but there more I never show client.”
“You touch my mind, not only body. That is more dangerous.”
“I wish I can break rules for you. But I try to be smart.”
“Thank you for always being there for me.... when things settle down with my life lets catch up for coffee.”
Yes ! There should be a pre-education mandatory course for these Simps before they are allowed to enter shops to punt.
The same way major Airlines should also include in-flight mandatory educational videos like those Flight safety videos before take-off for Old Bald Fat Farangs on "How not to lose everything to a Thai Bargirl" before they land in Bangkok.
In my demographics, that's why they're here. Expats...
Perspective. Like any gift, you do it to make yourself feel good.
Buying loyalty with money? That's called hiring, and she's an employee. If the business goes south, employees leave. Truthful? That goes along with respect.
You mean when she tells me, "You hansom man", that's a lie? Hard to believe... Both parties SHOULD know the score. It's the little white lies that grease life. Thing to do is have fun with it. For the serious stuff... most of it isn't the other person's business. But then, I'm not there looking for a partner, just a business transaction with a bit of fun. See "sanook".
Money's important, but, WADR, it doesn't seem to have brought you happiness. Or maybe it has.
The providers are certainly very astute, they have to be, if for no other reason than safety. They obviously recognize me as an experienced punter who knows the score, know I'm not a mark. Or perhaps, because of my age, they figure it's not worth the time and effort to try and attach my assets. Or perhaps it's because Asians respect their elders (though it is a bit deflating when she uses that specific word). Regardless, I don't have to gear up before entering, afraid that the schemin' Jezebel might hypnotize, mesmerize, tranquilize me with her deadly eyes, siren's voice. Common sense works for me.
Girls see me as much as an ATM as my barber does: I'm there for a service, lighten my load, shoot the shit, for the agreed upon price. I don't worry that my barber is trying to shortchange me on the back, going to ask me for extra; I respect him, he respects me. Same in any shop. And I certainly have nothing to prove as to my masculinity.
It's why I recommend one doesn't start punting until he has had some life experience, can differentiate between sex and a relationship.
Perhaps different demographics. The girls I know, she might be buying some designer bags, but it's not for her ego. It's for gifts for family, showing respect, when she goes home. Or to sell, money to be made in that. Damaging? WITHOUT a doubt. But for certain countries the sacrifices made to support family (WTF !?! No CentreLink, no free education, you have to pay for medical, pharmaceuticals?) Not a simp, not a white knight, not defending; just sayin... 20,000 baht, 6,000 RMB doesn't go too far if it's not just you... Asian FAMILY.
Like I'd say when asked why I was in-country: "Same same you, come here, make money, go home." Common bond, mutual respect. Works for me, YMMV.
No one’s saying women can’t choose to sell their bodies for money - and you’re right, sometimes it’s out of necessity, like supporting their families or other personal reasons. But don’t turn around and blame the client — that’s like a drug dealer blaming the addicts when they get caught 🤣
And like we see with a lot of WLs and MLs, the woman in this thread has clearly gone out of her way to lie and manipulate weak vulnerable men. . A parasite feeding off desperation.
Happiness is a mindset.
Knowing you don’t need anyone or anything to be happy.
I may walk around with money in my pocket but I just can’t be bothered punting, just can’t be bothered dating, just can’t be bothered socialising. Then other days its the opposite and it’s full steam ahead, fill my day to day with everything.
Yes it’s good to have money… just in case.
Some days it’s stay in bed and sleep, other days it’s work double or triple what everyone else does. Knowing that it’s entirely up to me to make my own choices and not be controlled by anyone or anything.
How many people have freedom to do what they want?
Most are programmed into a job, hell they even go to university for four or five years to program themselves into a job. Then that’s it, that’s them that’s their destiny. They find a level of security and don’t deviate out of that comfort zone.
To each their own poison.
I was in the same situation with this ML. Always has a sob story then ask to borrow money and says will pay back but never happen. Anyone knows if she's back working again?
Doubt she will go back to work since so many guys are looking for her. But I’m certain she’s seeing a few guys privately that she is already in contact with. I’ve had a few guys DM me saying they’ve been with her recently. Before her most recent trip to Vietnam about a month ago.