Sensational Transformational Budget from Joe Hockey, well done Joe........

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Originally Posted by EatmyhairyassholeBitch

You need to quote your 'significant parts of Australian economic assets' you are talking about rather that broad, blue style fanciful statements on Chinese investment.

As of 2011 investment in Australian projects in that year China as 3.5% of the total with USA, UK, Japan, Germany far far in front of Chinese investment.

This is irrefutable - look around and you will see.

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My previous post clearly states the very recent acquisition of Newcastle/Hunter docks by Chinese State Owned Enterprise for about $2Billion.
That's a hard cold fact, nothing fanciful about that statement - it was widely reported on national news and is obviously verifiable.
And not so very long ago (2years) the Chinese SOEs were trying to get involved with the national broadband / communications infrastructure
project - the Huawei company was passed over for any significant contracts on the project, due to their links with the CCP. They tried to make
a stink about it, but it was clearly the right decision. The idea that you would have an asian foreign company (with CCP connections) get involved
with your country's communications infrastructure is totally ridiculous. Your other stats are well-dated by now, and were questionable in their day.

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Originally Posted by Wayne

Here is an idea: let's put Tony Abbott's church back in charge of things.

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He did. Csiro gets 100m funding cut because science is so overrated. I'm not going to get into arguments like them developing wifi through their astronomy program.

National school chaplaincy program gets another 200m because chaplains do a better job than horrible lefty secular based professional councillors. Councilors and their 'education' and the whole evidence based 'research'. Whatever!! I'd rather my kids be taken care of by Church priests.

See Wayne?

Sarcasm :D

Who would have thought that a thread started as a shit-stir by some alleged dickhead troll would
have so much interest? Feelings are running high on this issue, and not only on this forum. I'm
changing tack slightly, have a look at this -

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

Says our government through the treasurer Sloppy Joe. Well yes if you are poor, if you are
disabled.....

Check the link, it's the Parliament House Dining Room Menu.

Right wing philosophy, “If you don't have a seat at the table, you are on the menu.”

WayneK.

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

My previous post clearly states the very recent acquisition of Newcastle/Hunter docks by Chinese State Owned Enterprise for about $2Billion.
That's a hard cold fact, nothing fanciful about that statement - it was widely reported on national news and is obviously verifiable.
And not so very long ago (2years) the Chinese SOEs were trying to get involved with the national broadband / communications infrastructure
project - the Huawei company was passed over for any significant contracts on the project, due to their links with the CCP. They tried to make
a stink about it, but it was clearly the right decision. The idea that you would have an asian foreign company (with CCP connections) get involved
with your country's communications infrastructure is totally ridiculous. Your other stats are well-dated by now, and were questionable in their day.

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You state that there is 'significant investment' which is 'hard cold facts' INCORRECT!

Get off the Chinese bashing as you clearly have little knowledge of anything.

This is a democracy, everyone is entitled to his own view. I am more interested in the future. I think the only honorable thing for Abbott to do now is to tough it out, and if necessary call an early DD election and let the people decide. If he backs down, he is damaged goods, only delaying his execution till next election.

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Originally Posted by waynekerr

Who would have thought that a thread started as a shit-stir by some alleged dickhead troll would
have so much interest? Feelings are running high on this issue, and not only on this forum. I'm
changing tack slightly, have a look at this -

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

Says our government through the treasurer Sloppy Joe. Well yes if you are poor, if you are
disabled.....

Check the link, it's the Parliament House Dining Room Menu.

Right wing philosophy, “If you don't have a seat at the table, you are on the menu.”

WayneK.

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Minimum 20 for the buffet???

Well that is Joe and Clive taken care of ;)

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Originally Posted by JC1

This is a democracy, everyone is entitled to his own view. I am more interested in the future. I think the only honorable thing for Abbott to do now is to tough it out, and if necessary call an early DD election and let the people decide. If he backs down, he is damaged goods, only delaying his execution till next election.

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He won't. He most certainly does not have the balls for that.

He will wait for the senate to do the heavy lifting for him. This will enable him to go to his rich bosses and say that he tried but the poor meanie ol' senate wouldn't let him play with his ball(s).

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Originally Posted by dohdoe

He did. Csiro gets 100m funding cut because science is so overrated. I'm not going to get into arguments like them developing wifi through their astronomy program.

National school chaplaincy program gets another 200m because chaplains do a better job than horrible lefty secular based professional councillors. Councilors and their 'education' and the whole evidence based 'research'. Whatever!! I'd rather my kids be taken care of by Church priests.

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It has become very "trendy" for the lefty media ideologues to badger, hector and ridicule anyone with a traditonal Christian view.
They don't ridicule the muslims too much, they are scared to do that for various reasons. And they don't ridicule the Hindus.
And they certainly don't ridicule the Jewish faith. Modern Australia was very largely created by people with traditional christian
values and ethics. Post-European Australia is trying to rapidly distance itself from the institutions and traditions that are its heritage.
Essentially, the global media dictatorship is subverting traditonal western democratic society: dividing it with excessive multi-culturalism,
breaking it down by erasing the family unit and revising gender roles, and then promoting any and all diverse ethnic groups of
non-european heritage. As modern Australia becomes less european and more Asian/multi-cultural, market expectations of social policy
and associated welfare services are rapidly changing, ie. reducing. The values & ethics of Australia's future social policy are becoming more
in line with those prevalent in the wider Asia-Pacific region. Australia is becoming an Asian country, in the Asian region, of the Asian century.
There will be many varied problems along the road of transition - the recent budget has concentrated the national psyche on these changing
times.

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Originally Posted by waynekerr

This is interesting, it might make you chuckle, it might bring a tear to your eye.

“The age of entitlement is over.”

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All hail the new age!!

What once was a merely a dream, the libertarian mastabatory fantasy, has finally arrived

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Originally Posted by greybeard_

well judging from the gallop opinion poll this morning you are in the minority. people seemed to think the budget is unfair and bad for australia. worse for abbott, people dont believe him anymore, his credibility is in tatters. once the public lose faith it is very difficult to regain their trust. one term toney? looking increasingly likely!

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Once you have lost your mojo it is hard to get it back ...
Hang on he never had one!

It was a very low act when the guy made sick joke vs "Dead" fellow. Why there are people still "Quoted" him ? something in common . .?

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Originally Posted by uglyphil

He stays because he speaks to his audience which is old old old rusted on righties... And he owns a stake in the station ;)

As to him being gay, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

He is an asshole who peddles rumours, insults, half-truths, selected titbits and outright lies. These are then spread to the wider community by the lazy hacks that we call journalists nowadays. And he is allowed to do so with absolute abandon by his bosses and the regulator. That is what makes him dangerous, not that he is gay. His sexual orientation is totally beside the point.

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Joe Hockey has the intestinal fortitude to front up on live TV tonight and tell the QandA audience & Australia,
that the Budget is entirely necessary. Good onya Joe. He grows in stature with every response to the audience.
Without action now, he knows Australia will be in significant trouble, he knows many people will regard the economic
medicine as a very bitter pill, he knows the whining lefty ideologues and media will exaggerate the community pain for political gain,
but he also knows the nation needs a swift kick up the derriere, in order for it to wake up to the brave new Asian century, and he is doing it.

Well done Joe....you're well on your way to legendary national political status. (I'll send you some cigars :smile:).

Seriously! Joe Hockey isn't the sharpest tack in the pack, have you actually listened to him much ...

aha, you get your information from Alan Jones? Ok. I now understand why you say the things you say...

In regard to the whole Alan Jones homosexuality thing. I honestly don't think anyone cares that Alan Jones enjoys cock. I don't even think most people would be bothered by the fact that he was apprehended by English police sucking another man's cock in a London public toilet.

I think what bothers many people is that this guy, who is known to frequent gay beat spots and to suck off random homosexual men in urine drenched dunnys, is so quick to claim the moral high ground and cast his judgement on others

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

BTW, you are actually right, the 4% and 2.5% interest rates I mentioned in my post I heard from Alan Jones this morning, which I'm sure he has done his research on that or the programmers has, so now that I know what "regurgitating" means, yes, I was repeating what I heard from the radio.

But so did you right ??

If you didn't listen to the same program, how do you know I was repeating ??

And if you do listen to Jones every morning, may be he is Not half as bad as you made him out to be !

Just wondering.

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Seriously! Joe Hockey isn't the sharpest tack in the pack, have you actually listened to him much ...

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And you take his post seriously ???

I watched nearly two thirds of the Q&A tonight with Joe Hockey facing the public of the West in the Penrith Club.

I think he did a good job in selling the new budget and answering many of the questions which reveals a lot of the finer details of the co payment, six month waiting periods of the unemployed , university fees and many other points!

I must say I am a lot more comfortable and convinced about the new measures and if they further reduce the threshold on the paid maternity leave , I'm happy to give the budget a pass !

But that's just me. What do I know right !

Cheers

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Originally Posted by CunningLinguist

Seriously! Joe Hockey isn't the sharpest tack in the pack, have you actually listened to him much ...

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I have listened to Joe quite a bit. He has grown in stature over the last couple of years.
But the good thing about Joe is that he is "a well-rounded" individual: a family man, loves his kids,
believes in hard work, and believes in saying what he thinks, regardless of what others might say.
We need more people in government with well-rounded upbringing who understands the importance
of preserving the best traditions and values that made Australia a success. This is even more important
now that Australia is heading for stormy economic and cultural waters.

Now it looks like your Super is in their sights. Better be prepared.

WayneK.

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Joe Hockey has the intestinal fortitude to front up on live TV tonight and tell the QandA audience & Australia,
that the Budget is entirely necessary. Good onya Joe. He grows in stature with every response to the audience.
Without action now, he knows Australia will be in significant trouble, he knows many people will regard the economic
medicine as a very bitter pill, he knows the whining lefty ideologues and media will exaggerate the community pain for political gain,
but he also knows the nation needs a swift kick up the derriere, in order for it to wake up to the brave new Asian century, and he is doing it.

Well done Joe....you're well on your way to legendary national political status. (I'll send you some cigars :smile:).

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I caught Joe on Q&A while channel surfing and yes I too thought he did pretty good job of explaining the budget rationale. Really cool under a lot of stress. I do think the Libs have done a dreadful job of actually selling the need for such drastic action.

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Originally Posted by Pussy HUnter

I caught Joe on Q&A while channel surfing and yes I too thought he did pretty good job of explaining the budget rationale. Really cool under a lot of stress. I do think the Libs have done a dreadful job of actually selling the need for such drastic action.

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Really? I saw it and thought he struggled with delivering the message. He pretty much disagreed with everyone and persisted that no promises have been broken. You could see he was uncomfortable and squirming in his chair.

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Originally Posted by loaded

Really? I saw it and thought he struggled with delivering the message. He pretty much disagreed with everyone and persisted that no promises have been broken. You could see he was uncomfortable and squirming in his chair.

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I don't think any former Treasurer could have done a better job last night, considering the unpopularity of the budget. Everyone in the audience last night wanted a piece of Joe.

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Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR

I don't think any former Treasurer could have done a better job last night, considering the unpopularity of the budget. Everyone in the audience last night wanted a piece of Joe.

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Joe's "the man" now, he's growing in stature by the minute, and we are looking at the next great leader in Australian political life.
Shorten and Tanya "the Pleb" will probably get replaced before the next general election - they have no leadership ability whatsoever.
Joe will replace Tony in a very amicable transfer of power after the next election, which Tony will win.

Good onya Joe......(and Tony)

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Joe's "the man" now, he's growing in stature by the minute, and we are looking at the next great leader in Australian political life.
Shorten and Tanya "the Pleb" will probably get replaced before the next general election - they have no leadership ability whatsoever.
Joe will replace Tony in a very amicable transfer of power after the next election, which Tony will win.

Good onya Joe......(and Tony)

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I think Julia Bishop could be the next Prime Minister !!

Another Julia one may say, but a far better Julia in my book

just a thought

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Originally Posted by SmilingGiraffe

Joe's "the man" now, he's growing in stature by the minute, and we are looking at the next great leader in Australian political life.
Shorten and Tanya "the Pleb" will probably get replaced before the next general election - they have no leadership ability whatsoever.
Joe will replace Tony in a very amicable transfer of power after the next election, which Tony will win.

Good onya Joe......(and Tony)

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There is a wonderful old aussie expression: shit stirrer. The urban dictionary defines it thus: "one who manipulates events to cause trouble for other people for their own amusement." I would add that shit stirrers get off by making statements provoking emotive responses; making polarising comments to deliberately divide opinion. Abbott is a shit stirrer. So too are you.