Should we see MLs regularly or not?

As part of my personality, I enjoy stability and do not expect uncertainties and surprises. So when I find a ML to be my type, I try to make her my regular and visit her regularly every week. But recently I have been dumped by my regular ML like garbage. I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits. As you know, the whole thing is physical. Such mistakes can happen during intense physical contact. She complained to me at the end and I apologised. But that’s not the end. When I tried to book her again, the shop told me she didn’t want to offer me service again. I offered to apologise to her in person. The shop told me she didn’t want to see me again and ask me to forget her. It’s just such an easy decision for her to make. Just think about it: MLs see at least 30 to 50 men every week and we see 3 to 5 ML at the most. The significant 10x imbalance means we probably are just a number in their eyes, even when we visit them every week and have so many times of intimate physical contact with them. When they lose us, they lose little to nothing because we just represent 1/50 to 1/30 of their income. Moreover, because of the nature of their work, they are probably immune to any emotional attachment, which means their attachment to us will not grow as we visit them more. On the contrary, we become more and more emotionally attached to them when we visit them more as a normal human being. Once the attachment is suddenly broken, we feel painful. Yet they probably feel little or nothing. It’s a really risky business to seek stability in ML. To find new girls all the time and not to look for a regular is against my nature. I am really struggling about it. You have any experiences to share or any advice you can give? Thank you!

I'm not sure if the OP is serious or having a go. If serious, I do feel sorry for the girl and I'm sure Wineglass is not the only problem punter. I, for one, am not qualified to help.

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Originally Posted by harry444

I'm not sure if the OP is serious or having a go. If serious, I do feel sorry for the girl and I'm sure Wineglass is not the only problem punter. I, for one, am not qualified to help.

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What is OP? Why am I a problem punter?

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Originally Posted by Wineglass985

What is OP? Why am I a problem punter?

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OP-Original poster ( In this case is you)
Your situation is quite common for punters but normal ��. You must be a sentimental person easily engaging with emotions. No doubt will get us fall into when someone reflected. You are right we probably her 1/50 or 1/30. Don’t be to attach, back to your enjoyment as many fish around.
Hopefully helps

For what it's worth, emotional attachment when money is being exchanged for services is a no-go.

You are giving money and emotion, they are accepting money and you, providing a service and turning the knob for the next inline.

It is a lose/win situation.

You talk like this ml is your girlfriend. She is not.
She is a sex worker. Imagine the guy after you is a 75 year old fat man doing the same thing you just did.

If you are punting 3-5 times a week, thats a lot of money. Do you have an endless supply?
How old are you?
Why not date real ladies?

Back to your post. You feel an emotional attachment. Why?
She is earning money for whatever reason doing sex work.
Have you seen her out of the shop? If not, you are living a fantasy and she is/was obliging it. For money. Like the guy before you and after you.

Fact is, mls can handle a whole day doing sex work, but the customers that make their day hardest are the ones that sap their emotional well being. Like you.
The problem is you, not her.
You have to fix you so that this doesnt happen again. And it will repeatedly. These people arent social workers, psychiatrists or counsellors. At least not qualified anyway. They have their routines to get through the day and you mess that up with your carry on.
Every half decent and popular ml will do the same with you once they tire of your attitude. The others suck it up, they need the money.

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Originally Posted by Wineglass985

As part of my personality, I enjoy stability and do not expect uncertainties and surprises. So when I find a ML to be my type, I try to make her my regular and visit her regularly every week. But recently I have been dumped by my regular ML like garbage. I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits. As you know, the whole thing is physical. Such mistakes can happen during intense physical contact. She complained to me at the end and I apologised. But that’s not the end. When I tried to book her again, the shop told me she didn’t want to offer me service again. I offered to apologise to her in person. The shop told me she didn’t want to see me again and ask me to forget her. It’s just such an easy decision for her to make. Just think about it: MLs see at least 30 to 50 men every week and we see 3 to 5 ML at the most. The significant 10x imbalance means we probably are just a number in their eyes, even when we visit them every week and have so many times of intimate physical contact with them. When they lose us, they lose little to nothing because we just represent 1/50 to 1/30 of their income. Moreover, because of the nature of their work, they are probably immune to any emotional attachment, which means their attachment to us will not grow as we visit them more. On the contrary, we become more and more emotionally attached to them when we visit them more as a normal human being. Once the attachment is suddenly broken, we feel painful. Yet they probably feel little or nothing. It’s a really risky business to seek stability in ML. To find new girls all the time and not to look for a regular is against my nature. I am really struggling about it. You have any experiences to share or any advice you can give? Thank you!

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The only time I felt like I was being shunned after seeing a ML regular was at sunshine went every week for a couple months, I tried to book got told fully booked two times, she wasn't that popular and it was 10am, I never not been able to book her before, who knows her reason frankly who gives a shit.

I booked one of the other chinese girls who was there rainbow banged her doggie while she blew kisses to me in the mirror, that was that the old girl was quickly forgotten just like that, tipped her an extra pine for being a sweet heart and went along my way.

Moral of the story there is always another hot ML out there to rail just keep it moving.

I am not sure if this is more emotional or physical attachment. She is one of my 3 regulars. But this one really hurts me as each time my physical contact with her was really intense, which gave me immense sexual pleasure. I really have trouble finding another girl who can give me the same level of pleasure after I lost her. The 2nd one is very charming but very wisely keep a distance from me while making me feel comfortable at the same time. She said to me, “I don’t want you to fall in love with me “. So I never have any kind of attachment to her. I can stop seeing her for 2 months and feel nothing. The 3rd one is interesting. Each time when I went for the next visit a little longer than expected, she would ask me” I know you are seeing other girls, right?” What an irony! She, as a ML, is seeing 30 to 50 men each week and cares about me seeing other girls? I have recently decided not seeing her again as I feel pressure because of this. I really wish the first girl can ask me this as she is my favorite. Unfortunately I lost her forever.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

You talk like this ml is your girlfriend. She is not.
She is a sex worker. Imagine the guy after you is a 75 year old fat man doing the same thing you just did.

If you are punting 3-5 times a week, thats a lot of money. Do you have an endless supply?
How old are you?
Why not date real ladies?

Back to your post. You feel an emotional attachment. Why?
She is earning money for whatever reason doing sex work.
Have you seen her out of the shop? If not, you are living a fantasy and she is/was obliging it. For money. Like the guy before you and after you.

Fact is, mls can handle a whole day doing sex work, but the customers that make their day hardest are the ones that sap their emotional well being. Like you.
The problem is you, not her.
You have to fix you so that this doesnt happen again. And it will repeatedly. These people arent social workers, psychiatrists or counsellors. At least not qualified anyway. They have their routines to get through the day and you mess that up with your carry on.
Every half decent and popular ml will do the same with you once they tire of your attitude. The others suck it up, they need the money.

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I am newly divorced. Never was a punter before. I am seeing MLs more frequently because I am trying to find some regular ML to engage with. I am a little picky in my taste, so not easy to find. Once I am settled in, I will reduce the visits. Thank you for the advice. I am not treating her as my girl friend. My attachment to her is still more of a physical one. I should get over it once I find such ML who can offer me the same or more pleasure. I am just struggling with the idea of visiting ML regularly.

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Originally Posted by thunder545454

The only time I felt like I was being shunned after seeing a ML regular was at sunshine went every week for a couple months, I tried to book got told fully booked two times, she wasn't that popular and it was 10am, I never not been able to book her before, who knows her reason frankly who gives a shit.

I booked one of the other chinese girls who was there rainbow banged her doggie while she blew kisses to me in the mirror, that was that the old girl was quickly forgotten just like that, tipped her an extra pine for being a sweet heart and went along my way.

Moral of the story there is always another hot ML out there to rail just keep it moving.

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Agreed. Problem will be solved if the new favorite is found. But it takes time and luck

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Originally Posted by Wineglass985

I am newly divorced. Never was a punter before. I am seeing MLs more frequently because I am trying to find some regular ML to engage with. I am a little picky in my taste, so not easy to find. Once I am settled in, I will reduce the visits. Thank you for the advice. I am not treating her as my girl friend. My attachment to her is still more of a physical one. I should get over it once I find such ML who can offer me the same or more pleasure. I am just struggling with the idea of visiting ML regularly.

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Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

While you like stability and routine, you don’t know what you don’t know. I see this as a great opportunity for you to try a whole range of cuisines to see what your palate likes and who knows, you may find some favourite new dishes along the way. The beaut thing about punting is you can go, try and if it is not for you then tick it off the list and move on. Be daring mate- generally go the conservative looking girls with a natural look? Go for a blonde Asian with big fakies and heavily tatted instead and see what it’s like. What have you got to lose aside from a load in/on her and $200.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

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Thanks for your advice. The failed marriage made me suffer significantly both financially and emotionally. I don’t think I will ever be engaged in a relationship again. The sole purpose of punting and looking for ML ladies is to satisfy sexual desires as a man. I have been severely sexually suppressed for a long time during separation years before divorce. This is a primary reason why I sometimes lost control in intense physical contact with favourite MLs. I’ll learn to control myself even with MLs. Otherwise I will lose them one after another. I will never fall in love with MLs. I don’t care about how many men they see every day, as long as they make me happy when they serve me.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

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Originally Posted by RLC

While you like stability and routine, you don’t know what you don’t know. I see this as a great opportunity for you to try a whole range of cuisines to see what your palate likes and who knows, you may find some favourite new dishes along the way. The beaut thing about punting is you can go, try and if it is not for you then tick it off the list and move on. Be daring mate- generally go the conservative looking girls with a natural look? Go for a blonde Asian with big fakies and heavily tatted instead and see what it’s like. What have you got to lose aside from a load in/on her and $200.

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Hi mate, thanks for the advice. I do like natural looking MLs without fake faces and boobs. Girls with many tattoos won’t turn me on. Unfortunately this basic preference won’t change. I agree with you that we have little to lose too. Just try to taste more dishes instead of fixating on one or two.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

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What an appropriate advice, I totally agreed what you are trying to say. The most of punters here should read and read and read his comments and reminds what is right.


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Originally Posted by Wineglass985

Thanks for your advice. The failed marriage made me suffer significantly both financially and emotionally. I don’t think I will ever be engaged in a relationship again. The sole purpose of punting and looking for ML ladies is to satisfy sexual desires as a man. I have been severely sexually suppressed for a long time during separation years before divorce. This is a primary reason why I sometimes lost control in intense physical contact with favourite MLs. I’ll learn to control myself even with MLs. Otherwise I will lose them one after another. I will never fall in love with MLs. I don’t care about how many men they see every day, as long as they make me happy when they serve me.

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Your age is important here.
If you have time to rebuild and start again, great do that without going to whores in massage shops.
There are a plethora of ladies looking for a stable and decent guy.
Why did you pick the wrong woman in the first place? Figuring that out makes your future easier.
Find a woman who will be what you need. Be fussy. Very fussy.

If you are older, then its harder. Most guys here are on the dead or dying side of a relationship and older.
Whores cannot be your answer to anything except as cum dumpsters. Loads of real women are dirtier and nastier than you realise. And free. Just dont marry them.

If you are stuck in this world. Be smart. The quicker the better.
You can develop a relationship with an ml. A business relationship. These do not happen overnight. Trust is still vital.

You got some soul searching to do brother. Fix your flaws. You will have many.
Making the same mistakes repeatedly is a sign of stupidity. Be smart.

There are many women working in this industry that fit your broad criteria.
Learn to assess before you pay a cent.
Many a punter does a 30 minute feeler session with either just a hj or just the massage thanks to get a greater feel for a suitable ml. You dont have to throw wads of cash to assess. Be smart.

Remember your ex wife may have controlled and ruined your past. The future is yours. Fuck her.

Don't take it too seriously.

If you want to test further, just offer to pay double for the extra service and see what happens. If the lady still refuses, then I'd be even more interested to hear ML's new version of the story.

If you've just come out of a loveless marriage and obviously your X burned you, (which isn't uncommon) take this opportunity to have fun and try some new experiences. You seem like a guy who needs a high level of commitment from a female. You're not going to get that from a ML or in most cases in a new relationship, especially if you're middle aged. The ladies are out to achieve their own goals in life and it's not to commitment emotionally to a new guy. Have fun, try new experiences and learn to live with yourself, and don't rely on a new relationship or ML to deliver what you've been denied in your failed marriage.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Your age is important here.
If you have time to rebuild and start again, great do that without going to whores in massage shops.
There are a plethora of ladies looking for a stable and decent guy.
Why did you pick the wrong woman in the first place? Figuring that out makes your future easier.
Find a woman who will be what you need. Be fussy. Very fussy.

If you are older, then its harder. Most guys here are on the dead or dying side of a relationship and older.
Whores cannot be your answer to anything except as cum dumpsters. Loads of real women are dirtier and nastier than you realise. And free. Just dont marry them.

If you are stuck in this world. Be smart. The quicker the better.
You can develop a relationship with an ml. A business relationship. These do not happen overnight. Trust is still vital.

You got some soul searching to do brother. Fix your flaws. You will have many.
Making the same mistakes repeatedly is a sign of stupidity. Be smart.

There are many women working in this industry that fit your broad criteria.
Learn to assess before you pay a cent.
Many a punter does a 30 minute feeler session with either just a hj or just the massage thanks to get a greater feel for a suitable ml. You dont have to throw wads of cash to assess. Be smart.

Remember your ex wife may have controlled and ruined your past. The future is yours. Fuck her.

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Hi Mate, thanks for the advice. Very useful! I belong to the older age group. I have totally lost interest in developing any emotional or marital relationship. Actually I feel some so called the significant other half or “wives” are far more nasty than ML. I had no sex for nearly 2 years and was totally ripped off financially upon divorce. At least MLs provide service to please me when they get paid. I agree with you it’s important to assess and not to waste money. Anyway, our relationship with ML is a business one- nothing emotional or personal.

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Originally Posted by Scotty from Marketing

Thank you for your background.
The key phrase from your opening post is “ I made some unintentional mistakes which made her uncomfortable during my last visit despite the fact that I was kind and gentle to her in all my previous visits.”
These girls have to put up with a lot. From guys who get services and do a runner (hello Indians), to guys who dont think No should be in an mls vocabulary to the guys who fall in love at the drop of a hat.
If you make her uncomfortable and do things she clearly doesnt want to do, you are gonna be shown the door.

Lessons.
As you transition from post divorce, figure yourself out. What do you want from life? Do you need a therapist?
If you arent careful trips to massage shops are gonna be on your agenda for too long and you will be unable to relate to normal women.
Are you on the spectrum? No shame in it, lots of people are. Dealing with intimate relationships if so, requires different advice.

Finding a new ml is easy, but hard as you havent explained your exact requirements and predicament. PM if you dont want the world to know.

Learn to have the ability to enter a shop and find out what you need without paying a cent. Some shops also specialise in dealing with unusual requests.

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Originally Posted by Tales

If you've just come out of a loveless marriage and obviously your X burned you, (which isn't uncommon) take this opportunity to have fun and try some new experiences. You seem like a guy who needs a high level of commitment from a female. You're not going to get that from a ML or in most cases in a new relationship, especially if you're middle aged. The ladies are out to achieve their own goals in life and it's not to commitment emotionally to a new guy. Have fun, try new experiences and learn to live with yourself, and don't rely on a new relationship or ML to deliver what you've been denied in your failed marriage.

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Thanks mate for the suggestion. I am trying to be sexually active again with 2 years no sex and a financial disaster upon divorce. Not seeking any emotional attachment to a ML. Just in need some girls who can satisfy my desires, just lost one and will be looking for a new one again.