ML charging more or they scamming

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

Im noticing ML asking for 150 for fs now . Used to be $100
And plus shop cost.

Better to go brothel shops

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Originally Posted by Scrambler

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

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The best guide you have are the Ginza rates [ diamond service ] that have almost the perfect balance.
So, any ml you are going to see unless she is 'beyond' you have to pay less than Ginza rates for 30 - 45- and 1-hour session.
Average rates at Ginza are 180 [ 30 min. ] - 240 [ 45 ] and 290 [ 1 hour ], so act accordingly.

Don't leave the few greedy ml's to fool you.
Personal If I meet a greedy ml, I stay only with the massage [ so I pay only the shop money ] and of course [ respectfully ] I leave a bit earlier the session.
Also, don't forget to leave your feedback [ no complain ] to the receptionist for to correct the ml's greedy behavior.

Also don't forget if you go to inclusive shop already you have paid 50$.
Personal my tip for diamond service are, 140 - 160 - 180 [ for one hour session ].

If it is only nhj the tip is 70$ max.

For massage the shop price is usually 50, sometimes 55. Simple take off and HJ was usually another 50. But now some keep asking for 70.

Inflation effects! Everyone needs to pay their bills then.

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Originally Posted by Scrambler

Maybe discussed maybe not, but noticed alot of ML are slowly asking for more $$$. New to all these punting and only started earlier this year but at the start of the year at a shop I was going too they were asking between $100-120 for extras….slowly the they all were at the $120. Now most girls ask for $200 off the bat n the ones who originally use to charge $120 now ask for $150.
Had one ask for $250 n when she saw my look changed to $200. Problem is in the heat of the moment u don’t think about it too much.
Anyone notice this too? I don’t haggle so either take the offer or reject it.

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Inflation is one thing but your case sounds like the girls at the shop (I'm assuming this is all happening at the one shop) may be comparing notes and now realise you're an "easy mark". That you'll agree to their prices most if not all the time?

Maybe try going to other shops further a field that you've never been to?

I really don't understand these fucking threads. Petrol goes up. Groceries go up. Rent goes up. Handjobs and blowjobs go up.
Do you think that ML's are somehow exempt from cost of living pressures? Sure they probably gamble a fair share of their income away but you clowns are still punting while complaining about the cost of punting so.....
Simple solution however, if you don't like it then don't buy it. Just punt within your means.
Alternatively you could ask your boss for a pay rise so you would have more money. Or is that being greedy....

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Originally Posted by blitz

I really don't understand these fucking threads. Petrol goes up. Groceries go up. Rent goes up. Handjobs and blowjobs go up.
Do you think that ML's are somehow exempt from cost of living pressures? Sure they probably gamble a fair share of their income away but you clowns are still punting while complaining about the cost of punting so.....
Simple solution however, if you don't like it then don't buy it. Just punt within your means.
Alternatively you could ask your boss for a pay rise so you would have more money. Or is that being greedy....

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Yeah, just like ppl carrying on about the price of beer while ordering another round.
No different to when chicks grimace at the size of your cock, and say "too big" but still continue.
Acting outraged while lining up again just makes the whole thing look like emotional theatre.

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Originally Posted by NC3

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The best guide you have are the Ginza rates [ diamond service ] that have almost the perfect balance.

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Even with Ginza as a guide, girls still charge the same but for standard service. I.e. without BBBJ. I always tell them i'll accept to pay the fee if BBBJ is included. Most say no, so I decline. On rare occassions, they agree.

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

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Originally Posted by holi_day

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

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It is that simple really. If you want FS go to a FS shop. Fucking a ML is not financially smart. There is this perceived thrill however when you're fucking a ML that you're doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Lot's of dudes get off on that I'm sure.
And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.

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Originally Posted by holi_day

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

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Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

I like to go to places where the costs of extras is standardised across the shop and is known beforehand. For example, SGM used to be like this but now you don't know what the girl is going to request for extras so I don't go their anymore.

If girls are getting Intel from each other at a shop how much you are willing to pay, it makes you easy bait.

Typo and double post

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Originally Posted by blitz

And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.

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nail and head right there

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Originally Posted by jackdaniels

Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

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These are my thoughts also , if the conection is good will go for FS if not just do HJ

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Originally Posted by Scrambler

ML charging more or they scamming

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Well, if you offer YOUR standard price (below what she would quote), are you trying to rip her off? Seems to me, 2 sides, same coin. She has a floor; I have a ceiling. If I get a high quote, I just mark it as "never hurts to ask", and see if we can "come" to a mutually agreeable solution for some "form" of entertainment. If we can, great. If we can't, well... that's life. Regardless, now I KNOW what HER experience is like for ME.

Nice thing about regulars. That first price tends to be the price you pay on subsequent visits. Not saying prices can't go up, but repeat business does count. When most of your regulars are "busy", or quote a higher price, then perhaps there has been a sea change.

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Originally Posted by Rodrigo

I like to go to places where the costs of extras is standardised across the shop and is known beforehand. For example, SGM used to be like this but now you don't know what the girl is going to request for extras so I don't go their anymore.

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Hey, I shop at Woolies, Coles, sticker prices. But I also like to hit some local markets. One of the fun things with traveling where "sticker price" (if there is one) is a suggestion. Just like the "first price" quote is.

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Originally Posted by Rodrigo

If girls are getting Intel from each other at a shop how much you are willing to pay, it makes you easy bait.

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Say WHAT?!?! Providers share intel? Isn't that cheating? Aren't only punters allowed to do that? I mean, how often do you see on this forum, "What does she do? How much does she charge?" 2 sides, same coin. Doesn't bother me a bit. Providers know what you'll pay and if you have a good rep. Very handy for BFL's and BG's.

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Originally Posted by blitz

It is that simple really. If you want FS go to a FS shop. Fucking a ML is not financially smart. There is this perceived thrill however when you're fucking a ML that you're doing something you're not supposed to be doing. Lot's of dudes get off on that I'm sure.
And you'll find a lot of ML's don't offer sex to every customer, they can pick and choose. And not every customer will take up the offer. So you can see a ML at the end of the day and there's a good chance she hasn't had 15 other blokes smashing her before you got there.

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For me, 1st point doesn't apply. 2nd point does. In a FS shop, the vibe is "bend over and brace". I enjoy the buildup at an RnT, but FS shops do have their place (more exactly, it's the provider).

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Originally Posted by holi_day

I never quite understand. If you want FS why not go to a FS shop? These ML won't do proper massage anyway. Or is it more economic when all things added up?

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IME, some can provide a very good massage, some have quite the skill set. I like the warm-up before the heavy exercise. Maybe that's my feminine (I can hear the screams of rage from the alphas now, even those who are temporarily no longer with us) side. Some like fast food, others like a multi-course meal. Both will satisfy a "hunger".

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Originally Posted by jackdaniels

Some like me don't necessarily go in wanting FS. I am a RnT guy but if the flow and chemistry is good I'll make the decision mid-massage to have FS if it's available. Economically not good but I like the optionality for which I am ok to pay the premium.

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agreed and i’ve turned down far more FS offers than i have accepted them
diff strokes for diff folks and that’s why WL and ML can happily co-exist

Wow thanks for all the replies.

It makes sense if some punters like the feeling of exploring, winning and conquering. For me, I just want to go straight to the point and get what I want. I sometimes try to convince the FS WL to do something that they not normally do. I get the vibe.

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Originally Posted by Wank_Somemore

Even with Ginza as a guide, girls still charge the same but for standard service. I.e. without BBBJ. I always tell them i'll accept to pay the fee if BBBJ is included. Most say no, so I decline. On rare occassions, they agree.

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'''Most say no, so I decline''', exactly this, you decline and you continue only with massage. - Ml's has the right to ask for any tip they want, and also the customer has the right to decline and stay only with massage, so you pay only the shop fee.