Japanese girls offering extras?

Hi, just wondering what people think about this.

Over the past three months, I’ve seen three or four different Japanese girls, and every single one of them asked if I wanted extras, specifically unprotected sex.

I’m kind of surprised that all four offered sex without a condom. Do people actually pay extra for this? I’m not overly paranoid about my health, but unprotected sex with a prostitute just sounds insane to me.
I don’t really care if the shop does regular STD checkups, it still feels like a bad idea.

Part of me thought about telling the shop owner, but they probably already know.
At the same time, I don’t want to judge how the girls make their money. I just say no and move on, so it’s not a big deal, but I do notice a brief look of disappointment afterward.

Is this something girls do often, and has anyone actually accepted the offer and paid extra?

Not accepted but offered

It's very common in Japan. Most don't use condoms there and the girls see it as easy money for them. The shops know but usually what happens in the room stays in the room.

It's offered alot, some even have a menu on their phones

I have had the same experience with the menu of options on the phone. I strongly discourage unsafe sex. It impacts the girls and all of us if we start to spread something and becomes a public health concern. Sounds like an exaggeration but it is not.

One girl once offered me bbfs just because she didn’t want the friction of the condom which to her it was worse than raw. I stopped the session and went with cim because clearly the poor girl was in pain. That’s just me.

Please don’t message me asking who they are as I won’t respond.

It is a thing in Japan due to poor sex education and the girls there in Japan offer BBFS as an additional fee. When I picked up a freelance (Tachinbo) in a common area for that in Tokyo, it was JPY15,000 for sex and JPY20,000 for unprotected sex. They just take that mindset with them when they come to Australia

As others have said, seems to be pretty common. I don't ask for it so I've only met one girl who did it, but she didn't offer me initially. She told me that most of the customers who partake in it are Chinese, who are the customers more likely to spend extra money. I wonder whether that's true. I think that would explain why some people never see it. If you are not Asian you are probably not going to be offered, since they also may be afraid of the customer complaining to the shop. Obviously, shops know it, so she wouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist anyway...

That conversation opened my eyes. I now try to avoid Japanese FIFO girls. This is already risky business, I don't need to make it even riskier...

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Originally Posted by El Loco Abreu

As others have said, seems to be pretty common. I don't ask for it so I've only met one girl who did it, but she didn't offer me initially. She told me that most of the customers who partake in it are Chinese, who are the customers more likely to spend extra money. I wonder whether that's true. I think that would explain why some people never see it. If you are not Asian you are probably not going to be offered, since they also may be afraid of the customer complaining to the shop. Obviously, shops know it, so she wouldn't get more than a slap on the wrist anyway...

That conversation opened my eyes. I now try to avoid Japanese FIFO girls. This is already risky business, I don't need to make it even riskier...

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All these girls have sex with hundreds to thousands of men a year. Dosent matter if you avoid FIFO girls because they all eventually let you do it without a condom to their favourite customers. I know a few girls that pretends to always use protection and lie about safety when its the complete opposite but alot told me to keep it a secret.

Ive never had a J FIFO specifically ask if I want to fuck her without a condom.

But many times when I say it is now time to fuck, they will get the condom and ask me "condom?" which I take as being with or without.

Always say, yes. Dont need this risk shit.

I’ve often had FIFO JPN girls at the two most featured shops say “I hate condoms, do you want to do it without?”

Only another $200 - 300 depending on the lady. Always a big no for me but I imagine a lot of desperates are happy to stump up.

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Originally Posted by Keeping Up

Only another $200 - 300 depending on the lady.

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Only? ONLY. FMTT. Definitely different tax brackets.

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Originally Posted by I_luv_doggie.

Dont need this risk shit.

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Not disagreeing.

But life is full or risk. Up to you the decisions you make. Given recent events, simply being in the wrong place, wrong time...

Well, you can stake that claim —
Good work is the key to good fortune
Winners take that praise
Losers seldom take that blame
If they don’t take that game
And sometimes the winner takes nothing
We draw our own designs
But fortune has to make that frame

We go out in the world and take our chances
Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That’s the way that lady luck dances
Roll the bones

Why are we here?
Because we’re here.
Roll the bones
Why does it happen?
Because it happens.
Roll the bones

with genial warts and herpes cases on the rise, would not risk this.

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Originally Posted by grindinghard

THIS. Go through the HPV subreddit. Harrowing shit, I do NOT need to deal with any lifelong std's. I don't even fuck civ girls BB.

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This is an interesting point. I've always wondered about guys on this forum who may never have experienced BB sex. If you've never had a long term partner and had most of your sex from WLs, surely it's possible for you to go through life without once having BB sex.

Any bros can attest?

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

This is an interesting point. I've always wondered about guys on this forum who may never have experienced BB sex. If you've never had a long term partner and had most of your sex from WLs, surely it's possible for you to go through life without once having BB sex.

Any bros can attest?

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I’ve always had GF’s for the last four plus decades. What surprises me is the fact some punters have NEVER had a relationship.

I would have thought it’s relationship first and punting second, not punting first and no relationship.

Today’s man is different to men of my era. They don’t “look” at women and they don’t seem to have the “want” of sex.

I’d say definitely they have less testosterone.

What happened?

Interesting diversion on this thread. Don’t think human biology has changed in 1000s of years. It’s just the psychology. Isn’t that how boffins explain the myriad of social problems? We are still basically cavemen with sophisticated toys. Dominant males have always monopolised the most attractive females. Subservient males left to pick up the crumbs and negotiate sexual favours.
As for extras, I’ve observed that most women just want an acknowledgement of doing something special for you. In my experience that’s seldom more than $100. Most times it isn’t even that. Paying double or triple that is inflationary.

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Originally Posted by justincase

I’ve always had GF’s for the last four plus decades. What surprises me is the fact some punters have NEVER had a relationship.

I would have thought it’s relationship first and punting second, not punting first and no relationship.

Today’s man is different to men of my era. They don’t “look” at women and they don’t seem to have the “want” of sex.

I’d say definitely they have less testosterone.

What happened?

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For some, punting can become a sort of micro-relationship, even if it only lasts an hour every couple of weeks. This might explain why GFE is so highly sought after in the punting scene.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/2019/11/2...rs-everywhere/

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

For some, punting can become a sort of micro-relationship, even if it only lasts an hour every couple of weeks. This might explain why GFE is so highly sought after in the punting scene.

https://nordicmodelnow.org/2019/11/2...rs-everywhere/

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Thanks for posting this but really, what’s the point. Yes, lots of girls are coerced into prostitution. Undoubtedly there is a trade in humans for sex and it’s awful. But not all sex workers are victims. It’s this moral polarisation that gets my goat. Some men are arseholes and treat women appallingly. The great majority of men visiting brothels are simply frustrated and lonely. Surely it is better to cater for these than pander to extremes.

Between 2022 and 2025, more than 13,000 people in Japan have been infected with syphilis.

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

Between 2022 and 2025, more than 13,000 people in Japan have been infected with syphilis.

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Yea? Name three. (old joke).

Antibiotic resistant gonorhea has been widely reported to NSW Health via their track and trace system.
Cases in Victoria too.
Not the end of the world, as there are highly potent antibiotics that will be taken via IV to combat the infection.
So, play safe fellas

Antibiotic resistance is serious business.

Also, what is not often said is the immune system gets compromised as men's bodies deal with STDs and recover.

Just because there are drugs to fight STD infections and recover from them does not mean total success, because the immune system becomes weaker and non-STD infections become easier to pick up.

Ditto with vulnerability to cancer, where in reality cancer is not an infection (not a virus) but the body's failure to deal with creating defective cells......

In summary, people who have been sick and recovered do not have the same quality immune system as those who hardly ever get sick when other infections/diseases knock on their doors.

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Originally Posted by touchthesky

Between 2022 and 2025, more than 13,000 people in Japan have been infected with syphilis.

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Not down playing the risk etc but the joint has a population of 122m.

More relevance would be where the numbers are located/concentrated.

It's been offered to me a handful of times for a fee at Ginza in the last couple of years, always J girls. I always refused since if they're offering it to you, they're probably offering it to everyone. Those girls no longer work there (the ones I saw anyway). I have done it with WL without paying extra when I was younger because they were into me, this is going back 15 years ago, some even turned into situationships outside shops, luckily never caught anything. I think it's riskier now since more people engage in hookup culture. You can catch it out in the wild too. I have a friend who doesn't go to shops, he's a good looking rooster who picks up easy and he's gotten the curable ones a handful of times from "regular" women.

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Originally Posted by I_luv_doggie.

Not down playing the risk etc but the joint has a population of 122m.

More relevance would be where the numbers are located/concentrated.

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At the same time, BBFS is the norm for sex work in Japan, and sex education is overall poor, so it's likely that it's concentrated among sex workers and customers, but also that the numbers are actually higher as it's generally under-reported.

up to you but i would never risk it with any pro