41 Epping Massage is scam

I saw their adds on the forum in shop info, I checked with shop if the ad for lady published that I am willing to book is close representation. Lady in ad was tiny petite asian babe in early 20s, so I walked in with thought of starting with massagw tease then opt for part3 extras, I don't usually pay upfront but that day I was thinking from the dick and paid upfront Lady walked in probably in late 30s or early 40s . Asked for extras straightaway, I wanted to walked out and get refund but opted for massage but she said if only masage then it will be 30 min, she played with dick and i need to release load ao opted for part 3 and table fucked her, she was okay milfy figure , decent bolts but no where close to the advertised lady.

Stay away from this scam shop , never book / pqy upfront.

Sorry to hear about your experience. Perhaps you could let us know who you actually saw.

Am I reading correctly….you paid reception upfront for part 3 before you saw the girl? That’s a really unusual strategy today the least….

Sorry i misrepresent it, I paid upfronf for the massage, I intended to part 3 for extras with ML during the massage depending on how massage goes as I checked with shop about extras ML offers.
Lady was advertised Ann

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Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Am I reading correctly….you paid reception upfront for part 3 before you saw the girl? That’s a really unusual strategy today the least….

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I too am confused. OP paid in advance (normal for shop fee), then OPTED for FS when told massage only would be 30 minutes only (understandable for ML as she makes her coin with extras; she loses money time if no extras). So how could OP have paid for extras before if he was being asked about extras in room? From their listed prices, this is not an "included" shop ($55/30 minutes, $80/hour). Why not walk away from the $25 time difference loss, assuming he paid for an hour?

Throwing good money after bad... Sounds like buyers remorse.

Heh, my experience has been different. One of the things I like about 41E and 227NS is that the picture of the girl they put up is always an actual picture of that girl. I can't say that about some other shops.

Of course women know how to present their most flattering angle and the shops almost always say girls are in their early 20's or are described as young when they aren't.

Ultimately my first visit to see any girl I haven't seen before I always regard as a punt with zero expectations. If things go well, I usually visit them again. If not, I move on.

Sorry to hear about op experience.
Not sure op walked to 45 instead of 41 as just few lots away another rnt?
41 mainly has girls accurately as photos taken in the shop

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Originally Posted by Folcis

Heh, my experience has been different. One of the things I like about 41E and 227NS is that the picture of the girl they put up is always an actual picture of that girl. I can't say that about some other shops.

Of course women know how to present their most flattering angle and the shops almost always say girls are in their early 20's or are described as young when they aren't.

Ultimately my first visit to see any girl I haven't seen before I always regard as a punt with zero expectations. If things go well, I usually visit them again. If not, I move on.

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Agree on all 3 points. So many want a guaranteed home run, or at least a hit. But you have to step up to the plate and take some pitches from an un-scouted pitcher. Some, home run. Others, single. Others, strike-out. A few, you get beaned. That's part of the game. If she doesn't resemble the photo, then you walk or concentrate on HER attractions that DO exist for you. For me, it's the search for knowledge. Afterwards, I will KNOW what her experience is like with ME. Better than always wondering...

lol it seems like these 41 E claims of false advertising come around every 6 months or so from profile either < 10 posts and always milf bait and switch & confused stories which change.

Well firstly can't see any Ann on roster for last few days.
41 E over the last 3 years have IMO had accurate if not up to date photos of ML - it's a given there a tolerable degree of poetic license with age as everywhere but the photos have always been real with those I've seen

If you want to walk out then 'WALK OUT' I've done it once at 41E and discussed with Jayden and he have me an apology plus a full refund - listened and understanding and progressional. I'm sure Bella would be the same.

As calls to 'stay away' - mate based on your '1 limited AR' maybe better you go find replacements for your '3 Gems' somewhere else

Sound like 45 not 41

I can confirm that they really do push their luck with stretching the truth with their ads.

Don't think there's anyone called Ann in 41, or 227 for that matter. Op must be blind and walked into the wrong shop. For others reading, 41 Epping is upstairs from the Korean BBQ place, entrance is street facing only.

Ann was rostered last week and since only the last 3 days are available in WeChat you won’t find it there. She’s a new addition and I remember the photo looked too good to be true, it was a selfie taken outside the shop which typically means the ml looks nothing close to it (Ester being the rare exception). Even when the photo is taken inside shop they can apply filters but it’s more trustworthy in my experience .

sorry about your experience dude, I tried a few girls there, I think they are mor accurate than a lot of the other shops

Sorry she was a dud. Can also confirm that there was an Ann last week. You can see the pictures in the girls info section.

Of the many years I've been going to 41Epp, I've only had one girl who was truly a dud and they were gone within a week of bad reviews. Management at the shop is usually really good at listening to feedback.

What baffles me is why are there so many "sorry's"? It's punting; not every punt will be a win. It's what makes the actual winners special. And in this case, who's to blame? OK, partly the shop. But unless the OP was held at gunpoint... This is the way, OJT, that you learn to cut your losses. Initially bail, hoping to get a refund, with the understanding it might be a full write-off. Or take the massage and chalk it up to "now you know". Continuing, full speed ahead, acquiescence is acceptance. Like I said, "buyer's remorse".

Thanks Bros, I am not just blaming the shop and lady I admitted that I was my fault to pay upfront and not asking for refund , I just sharing my experience so other Punter don't fall for the fake ads and waste their time heading to shop. Main issue is why the f shop lied when I confirmed with shop earlier, point is that shop isn't honest at all, they could have told me come and see for yourselves but they chosed to lie. I travelled long way to shop because of owner confirmation, thats why I am never going back there. Did some hot spicy punt last weekend 😁 , will post soon about it.

Appreciate the "lessons learnt" aspect, especially if this was your first time to a shop and you were unaware of specific shop etiquette.

41E generally run a good shop, however if you ever come across the old lady at 227NSM, my advice is to save yourself for another day.

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Appreciate the "lessons learnt" aspect, especially if this was your first time to a shop and you were unaware of specific shop etiquette.

41E generally run a good shop, however if you ever come across the old lady at 227NSM, my advice is to save yourself for another day.

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Hardly see owners, Bella and Jayden in the shops from my visits, they have great customer services from my opinion. Great shops location with mostly good girls quality selections. Some girls mentioned these 227 & 41 are busy shops, girls looking forward to be there.
Haven’t seen any old lady receptionist but seen a little chubby Japanese girl quite service oriented imo

You can have great customer service and still run misleading ads. I think that's why I always returned to their shops, their customer service was usually fine and no drama. However I just got over their blatant misleading ads.

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You can have great customer service and still run misleading ads. I think that's why I always returned to their shops, their customer service was usually fine and no drama. However I just got over their blatant misleading ads.

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Agreed with you here.

Unfortunately my experience is the misleading ad thing is a bit of a common theme across all shops.

Sorry bro… hope you don’t think the girls are really 18yo uni student like the ad says

Still hoping Lucy from 7 Cowper graduates one day

Yep. Too true. LMFAO

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Originally Posted by Punter69123

I saw their adds on the forum in shop info, I checked with shop if the ad for lady published that I am willing to book is close representation. Lady in ad was tiny petite asian babe in early 20s, so I walked in with thought of starting with massagw tease then opt for part3 extras, I don't usually pay upfront but that day I was thinking from the dick and paid upfront Lady walked in probably in late 30s or early 40s . Asked for extras straightaway, I wanted to walked out and get refund but opted for massage but she said if only masage then it will be 30 min, she played with dick and i need to release load ao opted for part 3 and table fucked her, she was okay milfy figure , decent bolts but no where close to the advertised lady.

Stay away from this scam shop , never book / pqy upfront.

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I suppose you know the 41E and 227NS have the same owner, Jaydon and his wife.
No, the shop is not scam but definitely sometimes wrong things can happen.
Yes, you should stay only with the massage or to leave.