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    Need some advice of what to do next…..

    Need your advice, guys.

    And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

    Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

    Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and that’s their job).

    So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

    Bet he’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and it’s the punter.

    Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

    Since 1st Jan 2025, I’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

    Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as I’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

    So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

    The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around begins…

    Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As I’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but that’s it, as I’ve booked her out. He agrees.

    The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

    As I find this out, I say no, I’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? I’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as I’m staying here for the next few days. As I’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didn’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

    As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

    As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

    The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

    WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months I’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

    I’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

    The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

    With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

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    She Done Him Wrong

    Human nature*: You give an inch, they take a mile (someone else can do the metric conversion). Because of your extra work for free, hanging around, good nature, you were taken for granted. Because of your attachments to the shop, the boss assumed she could do whatever with no ramifications.

    Obviously, walk away. Be happy with the good memories; now, those are just memories. Hopefully, you have the personal contacts (ala WeChat) of your regulars/favs, so you can find out where else they work and patronize those shops. Start the search for the replacement shop.

    Celebrate a belated birthday on your next working trip to Thailand - take some vacation days or unpaid leave at the end of the assignment - talking weeks here. Punt in Thailand, taking some breaks to other countries to play tourist sightseeing. Cambodia - Angkor Wat should be on any bucket list. Laos has some nice places. Malaysia KL (RIP Beach Club), Penang. Indonesia. Singapore. Vietnam. Even Myanmar (fantastic country, go see Bagan; take the SLOW train from Yangon to Mandalay). Winter might not be the best time to go see China, but it's mandatory in January-February to see the Harbin Ice Festival, another bucket list item.

    I'd just say take this as an opportunity to break the "Birthday-Punting" habit and broaden your horizons.
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    Something needs to be very wrong for any business to tell (probably) its number 1 customer to never return. There’s two sides to every story

    OP - as much as it sucks you’ve invested clearly lots of money & time into this place, I think it’s time to start fresh. It’s a business at the end of the day and if they don’t want your thousands of dollars each month, take it elsewhere

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    You hung around at the shop when you weren't attending a booking? Made yourself part of the furniture there? Of course you got taken for granted. You were basically doing the nice guy act.

    IMO women generally regard men they see as acting as nice guys with disdain. Which they will tolerate when they see you as useful, and then ruthlessly put you in your place if you make a nuisance of yourself. In this case, your crime was standing up for yourself.

    By the way, boss lady wasn't saying you had no money. She was saying she wasn't impressed you had money, and she was kind of sick of you always being at the shop.

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    Usually if you behave like a doormat people wipe their feet on you.

    Your behaviour is weird and they probaly think you are a strange fellow with not much going for you in life. So they don't respect you, all you bring is money and they think even if they treat you like this you will come back.

    I hope you realise from this experience that you should not be someone's doormat.

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    Two questions

    - what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
    - how can I get a job doing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linza Giz View Post
    Your behaviour is weird and they probaly think you are a strange fellow with not much going for you in life.
    That was what I was trying to say, but you said it much better.

    Why should I respect you if you don't respect yourself is probably what boss lady was thinking.

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    Bro sorry to hear that. Don't be taken for granted. Enjoy some Thai punani.

    Sent from my SM-S911B using Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by fnmfnmfnm View Post
    Two questions

    - what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
    - how can I get a job doing it
    45K only in this shop, bro. He was spending more than 20K between Jan Feb this year across 2 shops, so total spend for the year must be way above 45K. I'm starting to get the feeling that the shop cut him loose out of pity.
    Who pisses their life and money away like that on hookers? It's a downward spiral he's on.

    Besides, I think he may have negotiated a deal that was too cheap for the shop. Take a look at the numbers. 4 X 12-hour sessions plus "a few" 2 hour doubles... let's assume 4 X doubles. All for $7k. That works out to an hourly rate of less than $100. Yeah sure that's a lot of hours but potential income is very much reduced.

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    You overstayed your welcome, loitering around and pottering about. They don't want you there anymore. Pretty clear. They deal with transactions, not entertaining those hanging around to chat etc. Name and shame them as a parting gift. As the saying goes... a fool and his money are soon parted.

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    I've seen this movie many times before and it almost never ends well. I assume it's an Asian shop? Chinese owner? Trying to crossover from a customer to a 'friend' of the shop never works. To be honest I believe the shop owner has had enough of you hanging around, despite how much money you spend.
    Secondly, treating yourself for your birthday by locking yourself inside a dingy brothel with no windows and no fresh air for 5 days is just weird. Thailand isn't the only place to go for cheap sex with Asian girls. Go somewhere you haven't been before. Experience something different. Actually treat yourself. It doesn't always have to involve sex.

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    Hey man firstly happy birthday and hope you can go and find some happiness somewhere.

    You sound like you are looking for some sort of connection or are lonely. I think it sounds like you made a cardinal mistake thinking that the shop and the ladies are your friends...

    But mate they are a business, and are there to make money. Having someone hang out at their place of business, who doesn't work there, would be uncomfortable for them.

    Also consider that the ladies would be better off with 5 bookings in 5 hours than one booking for 5 hours. They will have a higher chance of getting tips in 5 bookings, unless you are tipping equivalent of 5 bookings...

    Ultimately mate I agree with brother Bravo - he has good advice... I think that helping out at the shop made you feel good about yourself, and spending money made you feel entitled to it - but at the end of the day that isn't the same way the shop feels about it and its time for you to reality check yourself and move on with your life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fnmfnmfnm View Post
    Two questions

    - what do you do for work to spend 45k on punting in a year, and travel a lot
    - how can I get a job doing it

    same here, but I'm more interested in the $7K tax return ?

    Like, what did he claim to get so much back ?

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    This is depressing.

    Find a hobby outside of punting bro.

    Sex is great but it's not the only thing in life. Do martial arts, help the homeless etc. try something else

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    Plenty of shops

    I am sure someone will be missing your $.

    From your previous post it looks like you have plenty of choices

    https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...96#post3568396

    Quote Originally Posted by westsydneypunter View Post
    Need your advice, guys.

    And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

    Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

    Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and thatÂ’s their job).

    So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

    Bet heÂ’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and itÂ’s the punter.

    Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

    Since 1st Jan 2025, IÂ’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

    Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as IÂ’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

    So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

    The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around beginsÂ…

    Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As IÂ’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but thatÂ’s it, as IÂ’ve booked her out. He agrees.

    The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

    As I find this out, I say no, IÂ’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? IÂ’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as IÂ’m staying here for the next few days. As IÂ’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didnÂ’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

    As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

    As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

    The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

    WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months IÂ’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

    IÂ’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

    The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; IÂ’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

    With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

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    Plenty of Shops

    No doubt someone will want your $

    From your previous post, you have plenty of choices

    https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...96#post3568396

    Quote Originally Posted by westsydneypunter View Post
    Need your advice, guys.

    And yes, I know what you’re going to say: “Just move to another shop.” Yes, I know and I have. But in the meantime, I just need your guys’ opinion on this.

    Right, so I have been a regular at the shop since June 2024. Let’s just say I visited a lot, so much that some of you may have seen me or know me, and spent so much time and money there that I have also become close to the shop owner and the girls that work there. So close that I sometimes help out around the shop—if that’s looking after reception & the phones, painting and fixing stuff, or even picking up and taking home some of the girls as an Uber driver.

    Why, you may ask? Do I get a discount at the shop or get paid? - NO, the owner has never offered me payment or a discount at the shop. I just do it out of kindness, as the girls make me feel welcome and comfortable (even though I pay full price to see them and that’s their job).

    So why do you do it? - If there is nothing else to do, why not? Some people help the SES or Red Cross—I just help around a brothel and get to chill and chat with some lovely ladies.

    Bet he’s in love with a WL at the shop? - No, not at all. Rule number 1 of punting. Never fall in love with a WL; it never ends well. Someone always gets hurt, and it’s the punter.

    Bet this bloke has mental issues? - Maybe, if you call being nice and kind crazy.

    Since 1st Jan 2025, I’ve spent over $45,000 in this shop in 8 months (I was overseas for 2 months with work), and as I feel comfortable at the shop, I decided to celebrate my birthday there, just as I did last year with a 12-hour booking. This year I planned and booked with the owner 4 12-hour sessions, along with a few 2-hour doubles here and there over the 4-night/5-day stay at the shop.

    Who the hell spends 4 nights/5 days in a brothel? Well, normally I would go to Thailand for my birthday and spend my tax return as a birthday present to myself, but this year, I thought I would spend it in Sydney, as I’ve already been to Thailand 4 times this year with work.

    So I make a booking with the owner a month in advance. During that month, I see the girls that I’m booking and ask them if they would like to celebrate my birthday with me, as I see them as regulars that I would like to spend my birthday with. All agreed, plans sorted and locked in. 2 weeks before the celebrations, I go in for my normal 3-hour booking to see one of my regulars; while I’m waiting, I reconfirm times, dates, and which girls. The owner confirms. The following week, same again. Back for my regular booking, reconfirmed booking—yeah, all locked in. The day before, I call up to confirm—yea, all booked in, the owner says.

    The big day comes. Call up in the morning just to say hi and check that we are still on for the next 5 days. The owner starts stating that I have a 2-hour booking tonight with xxxx but between 9pm and 11pm. No, the agreement was 11pm > 2am, then 10am > 12 midnight, and then 2pm > 3am for the following 4 days. This is where all the messing around begins…

    Tuesday night booking is over; waiting for my 10am to start in a few hours, I find out that another customer is waiting to see the same WL as me. As I’ve got her booked out all day, I tell him he can see her for the first 2 hours, but that’s it, as I’ve booked her out. He agrees.

    The booking was going to start at 10am, but the WL turned up late, at 1.10pm. The owner is calling me, saying, “Why haven’t I started my 10am booking?” shouting down the phone, only for her to hang up. It takes her 45 minutes to set up and starts at 2pm. 4pm comes up, and the customer I let him see her wants to extend by an hour.

    As I find this out, I say no, I’ve got her booked all day. The owner says no, she has a booking between 5 and 7pm. You rest. Are you taking the piss? I’ve been here since 10am, and I now have to wait until 7pm to see her. Pissed off, I go outside and have a drink as I’m staying here for the next few days. As I’m waiting, the owner calls me up again, shouting at me, saying, "Why did you let another customer take your booking?" I didn’t; one of your girls told him to stay overnight at the shop and see her in the morning. What was I going to do? Your receptionist should have resolved that issue, not me. Once again they hang up.

    As it was my birthday, and the lady I had booked has always wanted to do an MFM but never found 2 people she feels comfortable with, I organised that I and another regular would surprise her with an MFM. The plan was he would rock up at 8pm, see her for an hour, and then at 9pm I would just walk in so the 3 of us would have some fun for the next 2 hours.

    As I walk up to the door at 9pm, the receptionist tells me that I need to get my things out of the room and leave. But I’ve just given you money. Not my problem; get your things and go. You speak to the boss about your money. So, I walk into the room shocked and tell the both of them what just happened, and I need to leave with no explanation given. Both are in shock. The WL and friend ask what’s going on, only for him to turn around and say, “Both of you go; I need to clean the room. She has an appointment at 10pm with the doctor for 6 hours—WTF—the owner has double booked me again. Pissed off, we both get our things and leave.

    The next day, I texted the owner to say, “Why did you cancel my bookings and treat me that way?” Her response was, “You’re a time waster and not a good customer. The world knows you can afford to stay that long—go away and don’t waste my time. Never come back to my shop!”

    WTF? Wait, you say I have no money, but in 8 months I’ve spent just over $45k at your shop; you were going to give me a birthday rate, which you never did, and I was paying full price, and I was willing to spend my tax return ($7k) in your shop as a birthday gift to myself, and you kick me out?

    I’ve texted the owner only to be ignored.

    The thing is, over the 16 months of going to this shop, I have never asked for a discount and always pay full price, even though some customers from certain backgrounds get a discounted rate of $40 and up to $180 on their doubles. I know; I’ve seen, heard, and even taken payment when working as requested by the owner while helping out.

    With all that said, the way I have been treated. Who do you think is in the wrong? And what should I do?

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    That's good analytics!!! Shop owner may have wised up to that.

    Plenty of good advice and a reality check from the Bros ...... 11Bravo, Folcis, Blitz, hornedbeast etc

    You sound like a real decent bloke.

    Rogerram has made a very good point. There is something not quite right in your life if your are spending so much time at the shop . Only natural to be pissed off , a feeling of injustice since the shop owner has put you out. If you are feeling angry , it's good . Helps the healing process.

    You have to move on. Feel satisfied with what you have done! Does not matter if there is not appreciation or gratitude shown.

    All the best!



    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    45K only in this shop, bro. He was spending more than 20K between Jan Feb this year across 2 shops, so total spend for the year must be way above 45K. I'm starting to get the feeling that the shop cut him loose out of pity.
    Who pisses their life and money away like that on hookers? It's a downward spiral he's on.

    Besides, I think he may have negotiated a deal that was too cheap for the shop. Take a look at the numbers. 4 X 12-hour sessions plus "a few" 2 hour doubles... let's assume 4 X doubles. All for $7k. That works out to an hourly rate of less than $100. Yeah sure that's a lot of hours but potential income is very much reduced.

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    A punter is only as good as the money he brings in. Maybe the owner miscalculated on the session rate?

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    Dude you sound like a loser spending all your time at a brothel/massage place or even go to these places on their birthday. Dont you have any friends or family to spend time with rather then wasting it on people pretending to like you. You should just go there when you feel the urge and just leave...

  20. #20
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    Sounds like he really needs a sugar baby.

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