Originally Posted by Ziggurat
There’s no need to swear. By that I mean, ascribing to objective reality rather than to supernaturalism (ie, bullshit). Doing this by walking where you wish to walk in a World Heritage area, and being gentle and passive about it, and making any photographs as your creative urge motivates you too and hopefully not even leaving any footprints.
"Ridiculous" is a mere assertion. It is no argument. Convenient too that you don’t have time to respond. Ironically, time was my main argument. You need to address my points line by line with substantial counter arguments. Unless you can do that, don’t bother replying because it won’t be a reply. If you can’t formulate these, even in your own head, you are intellectually obligated to adopt my own position. (As I would yours.)
That is again a mere empty assertion that, understandably, you don’t bother to justify. The maths was in service of highlighting perspective and objectivity. That is its meaning. In this case, the shared minute fractions of time both white and aboriginal have been around compared to the geology of the Rock and the Olgas, and therefore the absurdity of a black view of them being imposed on those who don’t share the view. In their case backed up by savagely disproportionate white penalties. That was all quite clear. In primary school we were taught two important things: reading and comprehension. You need to brush up on the latter.
Thank you for that link. I was clearly talking about the walk through the centre of the domes. There you are surrounded by them on all sides. That place is one of the most stunning experiences a human can have. It’s unique on a planetary scale. Don’t trivialise it by putting quotation remarks around the “human right” to awe and wonder. That is a profound cultural right, as is taking any photos you wish to of the natural landscape. It is like the Pope locking up the Sistine Chapel for good, except it’s worse than even that.
People are now herded onto a viewing platform with a gaggle of tourists to look at the few set views people are now allowed to have, like it’s a theme park. That is fine to do, but we have lost the choice not to. And guess what? Since it became a theocracy visitor numbers to the Park have halved.
Thanks again for taking the trouble to find a link and post it. My whole context however was about a supernatural belief being imposed on objective, proven knowledge. Transgress the religion and it is a $6000 fine. In regard to the natural landscape in National Parks, formerly the aborigines had their beliefs and we had our objective facts. It was a live and let live situation. Now you use that line to imply I was talking about the whole history of colonisation! Were you truly blind to the context or being deliberately cynical? Here in fact is the full quote:
It was nothing to do with the history of colonisation, so argue properly or don't argue.
You didn’t comprehend. Sorry I keep repeating that, but you appear to be an inteliigent guy and may be worthy material for an attempted lightning cure. I wasn’t writing about history, I was writing about the here and now. That is, being denied access to the very best natural wonders in our own country. This literally forms a border to them, so it literally becomes a denial of state. Because I see it in World Heritage terms, which should be borderless, I’ve described how this is disrespectful to our collective humanity.
It was about the consequences of aboriginal mythology dictating to those who - harmlessly to both it and themselves - don’t ascribe to it. The Voice would no doubt view this very favourably and continue to support and propagate it.
