The thing here is whether the WL is really interested in being a friend or just wanted someone to talk to/complain to/hoping for opinions or some kind words of comfort. I have WLs calling me only when they need help or comfort, but never really interested in what I was doing or my life; them I deleted immediately after noticing a pattern here. When the WL is actually interested in you and your life, chatting about each other, and not fussy about coming out having a meal or 2 or just random meetups, then she's a keeper. Don't forget, WLs are always finding ways to keep your attention towards themOriginally Posted by cuteguy
Agree with jk_268. This scenario can easily be viewed as a woman who values work over friendship/love life, and a guy who, regardless of whether he planned to be just a friend or a lover, felt he was not respected.
I can understand that guy’s disappointment with her as it is more of a case about promises being broken.
Well, she had no interest in you besides from a financial point of view. Money talks my friend or as they say 'no money no honey'.
The urban dictionary defines 'no money, no honey' as follows:
A spoken expression: In its original and quasi-literal form, used by prostitutes to inform interested men that they have no interest in being chatted-up or smooth talked, that the only way for sex to occur is through cash payment. The word honey is used as a metaphor for the female genitalia.
A non-spoken attitude or mindset: In its modern, derived form, an understanding or implied contract between a man and woman, stating if the man wants sex on a continued, long-term basis, he must then provide money or gifts on a similarly continued, long-term basis in exchange for the sex.
Example 1: Look baby, don't waste my time with all that smooth talk, OK? This is a money game. No money, no honey.
Becoming friends with a WL? you have about 1% successful rate. She makes $2k a day and orgy party, like $5k a night, they want money money and more money. A non paying "male" friend is too expansive for them. Just be friends for 1/2-1 hour when you fuck her, so make as many "friends" as you can, haha.
I agree, no money no honey.
One WL told me she wouldn't date or become too friendly with a guy who goes to a brothel because he is paying to have sex with her. They want to keep their work separate from their personal lives.
The mistake here is your friend didn't offer to take her home as his lover after the dinner. He went on to waste more of her time by asking to go to the movies. She was dressed to the nines and gave strong impression to him (by dressing sexily) that she wants more than just dinner and movies. It's your friend's fault for not closing the deal quick enough. I reckon if he asked her to go back home, keep persisting through her reluctance, she will give in. At this point, whatever plans she had for the rest of the night is irrelevant.
Sometimes I had to pull over my car and continue to convince my girl before she agreed to stay overnight with me. We just got to break that barrier.
To live in Australia is to win in the game of life.
She was dressed in a hot dress and fur coat because she was working and seeing clients that were paying large sums of money to see her. She was not dressed for my friend because she went straight from her outcall job to the restaurant where my friend was meeting her for dinner. She was whinging how she had little time to go out and this is why my friend planned the night with a visit to the cinema. He didn't see her as a WL but as a friend. This is what he told me. However, she let him down by the way she gave priority to her work over her friendship with him.
So is your friend really you
No CunningLinguist.So is your friend really you
Ok. How did your friend meet this WL in the first place ?
From having sexual relationship before to becoming just friends is not progress, it's going backwards. What's after just friends then, shopping buddies? then taking bags for the girl? Giving free money for nothing?
Being friends with girls is the lamest thing to do.
Anything goes out there. I've met a Korean WL who actually married a punter, but this rare as hen's teeth.
It's not relevant how he met her because he knew she was a WL and had stated how she would openly discuss her working life and stories with him. The reason why he wanted to be friends with this girl was because he felt sorry for her after what she had revealed to him about her life. She had a really sad life as a child and teenager before starting work as a WL.
She grew up with her Chinese father only (I don't remember what my friend said about her mother). She hated her father because he ran the household as if he was in the military and was overprotective and psycho. She had a real fear of him. Sometimes she would run away from him but eventually she had to return home because she had nowhere to go. When she turned 18 years of age, she left him and without any money went to a brothel where they took her in without asking for any details. She was a virgin and lost her virginity to the first customer at this shop. She cried when she did it for the first time but she stayed on and the job toughened her up to look out for herself. After renting for some time, she had enough money to buy an apartment. I think my friend also mentioned that she went to university or TAFE to complete some studies while still working as an escort. The job as an escort allowed her to move between cities like Sydney and Melbourne because of the agency's contacts. She tended to keep to herself and had few close friends. One of them was my friend.
I have read some of the comments here with some guys believing that my friend wanted to have sex with her that night. I will never know what his true intentions were but there are people out there who have empathy for others. They want to help people in some way. He told me that he just wanted to see her and touch bases with her only. There was no thought of having sex with her. As for the photos of her, they were not taken secretly. My friend asked a waiter to take a few photos of them together at the dinner table. In addition, my friend didn't send them to me but showed the photos when I caught up with him for drinks. This took place many years ago.
dont believe any of her shit.
To give her the benefit of doubt, (sadly I still have faith in people) MAYBE she doesn’t really understand herself and genuinely believed what she said to that guy. And then when the calls come in, she does the opposite of what she’s been saying, but not because she was lying before.
But at the end of the day, at least that guy has now gained a better understanding about that lady and will not waste further time and effort in maintaining that friendship.
Arigato
No money no honey
It is the truth for all women
But earning power for working lady makes it emphasis
Yes
i would consider myself 'friends' with a few MLs and WLs. It really isn't much different to becoming friends with a regular person. You become friends with someone because you might share common interests, have interesting conversation or become comfortable sharing information about yourself that you may not want to share with people in general. You develop trust.
i do however find that this can be detrimental to your punting with that particular WL. I had one that would tell me about her issues in her relationship with her boyfriend. On one hand, it is nice that she can trust you with sharing this information. The issues she had were around the strain caused because of the work she does and how he struggles to deal with it mentally and emotionally. I have gotten to the stage with this girl where i am more than happy to maintain a friendship l but don't really want to go see her anymore. Her boyfriend knows about some of her customers but she has never told him about me. She said she wouldn't dare to.
I told her a little while ago that i wouldn't be visiting her anymore. She wasn't happy about it but the friendship has seemingly become more important than the pussy. i just don't want to be the guy causing her boyfriend the anguish he is experiencing.
if u are single, you can afford it
if u are partnered, the relationship is going no where,dont start it for any reason...better move on for more happy time
I would not recommend being friends with wl cos most of them are not in a good place in their lives for any kind of healthy relationship. Most are depressed and do not have self love and respect. Unless you want to be dragged down to their level, it is best to treat them as one hour fuck buddies and not get too close.
Selling your body for money speaks of low self love and respect. Even sluts have higher standards and don't let any random man sleep with them. That's why people have a dim view of prostitution. Making love with someone who you do not love or have an aversion for is painful. Working ladies know it but they continue to suffer this hurt and pain cos they don't love themselves. They do it for money.
Many wl are emotionally messed up and damaged. Most come from broken or divorced families where their dad where hardly present in their lives. They do not have a male figure to love them and give love to. Their parent may constantly quarrel with each other and they feel no love or warmth at home. Some may be victims of sexual abuse by their father.
Let's take Jerry (Christmas) as an example. As mentioned on her blog, her parents divorced because her mon cheated on her dad. She suffers from a lack of attention and confused parental guidance. Her subconscious pursuit of men derives from an attempt to overcome her feelings of isolation and inadequacy. She starts by dating a few guys hoping to find one as good as his father but tire and end up being addicted to sex and attention. Her sensuality gives her power over men. Each men she has sex with validates her shallow self-esteem and existence. Because her father was hardly ever there for her, she feels invisible unless she is entertaining and impressing other people. Her greatest fear is being unattractive, boring or ignored. Without people fawning over her, she feels powerless. Her lack of self love also manifests as smoking, tattoos and piercing.
Her friend Victoria (M5) also known as Miranda (Kyoto) is less fortunate. Her father passed away when she was young and she has to work to support her mom as her brother has his own family to take care of. (I am sharing personal information since Jerry said that Victoria/Miranda is no longer working in Sydney.) Jerry was once upset with Victoria because she went to Kyoto without informing Jerry. After all the hard work Jerry put in to bring Victoria to Sydney and help her settle here, she felt deceived that Victoria just left like that. Truth is Victoria never had a fatherly figure give her such support. Victoria also don't know how to show appreciation for such support and has feelings of being unworthy.
Worse Victoria cheated my feeling. We never dated outside. She was having relationship problems back in Korea so she decided to use me a backup or emotional blanket while she was here. I was never interested in her at first but allowed myself to be seduced by her. I fell in love after she showed me her skydiving video. I thought she was sincere, genuine, sweet, soft and submissive type of girl who would make a good long term relationship material but I slowly discovered that she is an emotional train wreck inside. I was hurt when I found out that she had another lover in Korea. But her lover was unavailable, married to or dating another girl. Her lover promised to leave his girlfriend or wife for her but she knows he is lying. He just wants her as a backup. Fatherless daughters always look for men who are emotionally unavailable and replicate their father's abandonment.
Take my advice.Working ladies are in general emotionally unhealthy. If you are looking for a relationship, it is best to choose a girl who is emotionally secure and comes form a good family, one who has a good job and leads a fulfilling and healthy life, respect herself and you and one who keeps herself in good shape. Working ladies are the last people you ever want to have a relationship with.
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