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    Quote Originally Posted by rooter View Post
    Once you have paid money to use a woman's body you have killed any chance of ever having a meaningful genuine relationship with her.
    You have crossed a line and there is no going back.
    The best you can hope for is some sort of relationship or arrangement based on mutual exploitation.
    That is the reality of punting.
    Accept it.
    But then again relationships based on mutual exploitation are not just confined to relationships with WLs - many traditional marriages are perfect examples of relationships based on mutual exploitation (the husband gets sex, children, cooked meals, ; the wife gets security, status, children and property) so you probably won't be much different to your parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.
    Who the fuck knows anything anymore
    Enjoy!
    Couldn't have said better myself.

    Besides, (to a man), what is "a meaningful genuine relationship" with a normal lady? (not a sex worker)
    I know only two ladies with whom I share great mutual trusts, one I knew from high school the other a college classmate, both are professionals who earn more than me. But are these relationships meaningful? I'm not so sure. On the one hand, I value any genuine friendship, so these are meaningful; but on the other hand both of them are married so I don't dare making any advances to them, so they may as well be male friends which would make things a lot easier.

    I recall there was (is?) a long running debate in Japan about if it's possible for a man and woman to be just regular friends, and well over 2/3 thought it impossible and I kinda agree. One of the best answers I read was that "a normal guy has no interest in becoming a friend with an ugly woman, so looks and sex appeal was always an important element in this friendship, there is no such thing as regular male/female friends without consideration of sex"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niceguy11 View Post
    I saw one of my regular WL's the other night. She messaged me saying if it's cool to grab a lift home after her shift and I said no worries. So went to the shop, had sex and waited for her afterwards. I was waiting in the shop waiting for her to change clothes so I was chatting to the mamasan. After about 10 mins she came out and said let's go. As well were about to leave, the mamasan phone rang and a punter was asking for her. So she had to stay at the shop and we didn't end up leaving together. I basically said good bye and we'll catch up next time.

    Now I guess we have been friends outside the shop and have hung out, gone to the movies, had dinner purely as friends. Even though we couldn't leave the shop together, and that I knew another punter would be pounding her pussy in about 30 minutes, I was cool with it because we're only friends, nothing else.

    If I had feelings of course it would be different. The point I'm trying to make is that as long as you keep the relationship as friends, then you should be fine. I have had other friendships with WL's that have been ok but turned out shit, but yeah, my regular/friend WL is cool.
    I couldn’t handle that. What a waste of time and emotional drain. Even a friend wouldn’t treat you like that. Maybe if they made it up to you later. Like buying dinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrabong View Post
    I couldn’t handle that. What a waste of time and emotional drain. Even a friend wouldn’t treat you like that. Maybe if they made it up to you later. Like buying dinner.
    I agree, a real friend would not do that to you. I reckon he is in denial ...

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    Friends with benefits can happen but it is always difficult to achieve. Especially long term. I was on one quite a few years ago. She said if either of us met someone we could call it off. 3 months after no holds barred banging she returned to someone she knew from the past. Rang me. I was okay. That was our arrangement. She seemed a bit shocked. Then six weeks later she re contacted me, was keen again but I wasn’t. Zero emotion. But had moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CunningLinguist View Post
    I agree, a real friend would not do that to you. I reckon he is in denial ...
    Absolutely. After making the trip the petrol sex should have definitely been on the cards. Not oh sorry I’m going to start working again lol. That’s called being played

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    Quote Originally Posted by CunningLinguist View Post
    I agree, a real friend would not do that to you. I reckon he is in denial ...
    Yep, it could be denial.

    But there are other selfish reasons as well for it.
    Some of reasons he might not have even internalized it yet.

    1. He is playing a long shot or waiting game hoping for a freebie at some point.
    Some people may deny it but the thought is there at the back of their heads.
    2. Earning brownie points for that great session where she gives extra attention to him.
    There could also be a fantasy element hidden in all this.
    3. He wants to bang her outside the shop (paid and at the comfort of his home/hotel).
    He will eventually bring it up; just delaying it so that she can trust him.
    4. He is afraid he will loose a perfectly good WL who knows all the right buttons to push.
    By doing small favors for her, he gets an affirmation that his next session is going to be great.

    Again, None of the above is a sure thing.
    But the very possibility of it happening excites some people so they don't care about being played on the short run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yug View Post
    Yep, it could be denial.

    But there are other selfish reasons as well for it.
    Some of reasons he might not have even internalized it yet.

    1. He is playing a long shot or waiting game hoping for a freebie at some point.
    Some people may deny it but the thought is there at the back of their heads.
    2. Earning brownie points for that great session where she gives extra attention to him.
    There could also be a fantasy element hidden in all this.
    3. He wants to bang her outside the shop (paid and at the comfort of his home/hotel).
    He will eventually bring it up; just delaying it so that she can trust him.
    4. He is afraid he will loose a perfectly good WL who knows all the right buttons to push.
    By doing small favors for her, he gets an affirmation that his next session is going to be great.

    Again, None of the above is a sure thing.
    But the very possibility of it happening excites some people so they don't care about being played on the short run.
    Like like like. It's there anything this man doesn't know ?

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    same situation here fell into a ML but i doubt it will end well go figure

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