Reply With QuoteIt's the exchange of bodily fluids, with it comes risk to exchange covid as well as many other things, don't get me wrong I'm hanging for them to re-open.Originally Posted by Effindahead
Should've gone yesterday when the police were busy with the rally
It's the exchange of bodily fluids, with it comes risk to exchange covid as well as many other things, don't get me wrong I'm hanging for them to re-open.
Locked out of my old "Arnie_Fan" account and lost email access to the tied address, created this new account.
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I can't believe you guys are still carrying on...it's as if a heap of you want these places to get busted. The legal and medical connotations...give it a rest.
Showing my age here, but I remember a time when prostitution was illegal in Oz. Sydney was littered with Brothels let alone the street walkers at the Cross and surrounding suburbs, all running and not getting busted. Some of the brothels being pretty exclusive. I'll leave it to your imagination why they never got raided.
We punt, that's what we do...till this day, legal or not, it is pretty much still socially unacceptable. But we still punt.
Now, can we just give it a rest and try not to bring any more attention to the places that have been giving us so much pleasure.
I'm sure that it will come out this week as to what will officially be and not be allowed.
I just think the fact that we are seeing licensed RnT's saying that they're awaiting proper interpretation of the law before they confirm whether or not they will be allowed to open on 13th June is something we need to pay attention to. According to the interpretation as they see it right now - if the provider is nude and providing a HJ, in the eyes of the authorities that is a brothel or sexual services premises and will be subject to fines under the current interpretation of the law as they see it.
It's like in the very early days of Uber / Rideshare where arguments ensued as to whether or not it was a 'taxi service' in the eyes of the tax man, and whether or not it's operators would have access to the $75k GST Free Threshold. Taxi services have never had access to the threshold. The basis of Ubers claim was that the act specifically referred to 'taxi', 'limousine', 'hire car service' and so on... and that rideshare is not one of these aforementioned services. Rideshare is no different to an on-demand taxi service.
Basically if it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
As others have mentioned, this isn't just council regulations (where the council generally turn a blind eye to what really goes on anyway). This is enacted state law under the Public Health Act. As we've seen already in the early stages of the lock downs, the Police have the power to enter premises and issue fines if they suspect a business is not operating within the boundaries of the law. I'm sure they will be entering a lot of businesses (not just our favourite massage shops) to ensure that social distancing is being adhered to. These will probably be patrols and targeted checks in some of the more busy areas of town (CBD, Inner West, East etc).
Personally, I agree with all who are saying that the current restrictions, particularly now around licensed sex premises, have run their course and need to be eased (especially with restaurants, pubs, clubs, other personal services and now corporates can start going back in the private boxes at the footy from next week too - I've been in enough corporate boxes over the years and it's going to be very hard to maintain social distancing even with restricted numbers).
But I'd also want to ensure that I'm keeping that potential $1000 fine in my pocket as well (as I'd rather have that to spend on RnT's when it's okay to do so).
What you need to do is LOCKED the door in the room so the police can't get in, then they will not have any proof if you are social distancing.
What goes on in MPs in NSW has nothing to do with the police because they are not controlled by any state laws. Police can only take action if some other law is being broken - drugs, unauthorised workers, etc.
Nothing to do with social distancing, which is impossible in a massage situation. It would be non-compliance with Health Orders which have rules for operation and do not allow sex services.
IF police were intent on enforcing these rules, it would be easy for them, for example, to look for reports here as to which shops were offering extras; too many loose lips.
Although that comment is not related to sexual services, the laws on transportation related to providing any transport "for hire or reward" having to be licenced. Buses, taxis, hire cars come under that umbrella, Uber did not. It was only "mass disobedience" that forced the government to review the situation.
Similarly, councils seem to have almost given up on chasing after RnT massage shops, because there so many of them and it is not worth the time and cost of prosecuting them
The one question I have on my mind is whether we need to either have the contact tracing app or leave name and address details when we visit a massage parlour from next Saturday...
Will be a form to fill. Name/email/phone number/time/date /about 10 questions to fill yes or no answer /sign the form. And enjoy your massage.
Hand sanitizer and temperature taken. But not all do all the things as required.
The way it's going I can't see it happening. In Thailand, before you enter a shopping centre and in some retail shops your temperature needs to be taken and you must add the app and scan it when entering and leaving the premises. They are taking it seriously in Thailand while in Australia, it's 'you'll be right mate' relaxed attitude. We saw thousands demonstrate for the BLM issue despite social distancing restriction. Why would anyone care now about taking customer details when they enter RNT shops?
And how many punters will want to hand that sort of info over to a RnT operator? Will there be any obligation for the shop to verify it?
No verification. No ID. no phone verification. So you can put the PM number if you have one. Is just a front for the shop we have this in place if authorities come to check.
I have thought the same thing, using the app should be just as effective as taking details because you will spending more than 15 mins and the the ML will have the app too (assuming), If they want to take details a first name and number makes the most sense.
We are all speculating on whether the shop will require punters to leave their details with them or not. The shops should know. Has any shop that advertises on this forum made inquiries with the NSW Government as to what requirements must be met before opening on June 13?
Visited Mali Mali Thai today, just left name and phone, sweet.........I have nothing to hide.
The earlier post #78 from Climax598 appears to be from a shop.
my guess is there will be more clarity after the next states meeting due this week
Aren't only massage parlours and not brothels allowed to open on June 13?
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