The referendum, yes or no?

[ReginaldBubbles]

Not necessarily, there a lot of people who think white people are degenerate colonisers who are all voting yes.

Huh? I said not everyone who votes no is racist.

You can blame racism and Dutton all you want, the fact you ignored everything in my previous post and went to racism is the problem. You’re one of the reasons why people are voting no.

Interesting that you think I have more influence on the no vote than the leader of the opposition. People like Dutton are the ones who have made it about "race", it's actually about recognition of indigeneity and trying to right institutional disadvantage.

The biggest issue from what I can tell, is people really have no idea about the specifics of the “voice”, t

The issue of "specifics" is a straw man argument created to confuse the public. As I've stated previously, the constitution doesn't contain the specific detail of legislation, it just provides the government of the day the power to make laws about certain things. See link below to the actual constitution.

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliam...the_Parliament

There are no specifics about any legislation here. And it's simple so there's not much to know. It's just a small representative group that can make representations to parliament on issues that affect them. the government can completely ignore it and is not compelled to do anything. simple

there are indigenous senators/members of parliament/indigenous minister, maybe hundreds of government and non government organisations for indigenous people , how specifically is the voice specifically going to change the current system, what are specific policies that the current system is lacking that the new system will fix and why is it absolutely essential to change the constitution when we already have so many advisory boards.

The idea is to have people who aren't politicians who are beholden to partisan party policy. It's good to have diverse representation in parliament but outside bipartisan input is also necessary. There are lots of current NGAs but a lot of them have little Aboriginal involvement and probably don't listen to what people actually need and instead decide for them. There's also probably duplication and inefficiency in a lot of instances and perhaps auditing is necessary. a national voice will make these things easier. Having it in the constitution just means it's specific legislation can be changed by successive governments but it will always be there. It's also important symbollically for Australia going forward to recognise in our founding document how our present good fortune was obtained.

Well I actually put a bit of time into that and I know I probably haven't changed anybody's mind and probably used some words some people will find triggering but I thought I'd put in one final effort. It's not gonna pass anyway so fuck it. We'll still be regarded as a racist, ignorant backwater by most of the world.